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Copyright Industries Oppose Treaty For the Blind

langelgjm sends in a piece from Wired, which details the background of a proposed treaty to allow cross-border sharing of books for the blind — a treaty which is opposed by an almost unified front of business interests in the US, with the exception of Google. "A broad swath of American enterprise ranging from major software makers to motion picture and music companies are joining forces to oppose a new international treaty that would make books more accessible to the blind. With the exception of Google, almost every major industry player has expressed disapproval of the treaty, which would allow cross-border sharing of digitized books accessible to the blind and visually impaired. Google's chief copyright counsel believes the industry-wide opposition is mainly due to 'opposition to a larger agenda of limitations and exceptions... We believe this is an unproductive approach to solving what is a discrete, long-standing problem that affects a group that needs and deserves the protections of the international community.'"

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  1. Rob you blind by syousef · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Extree! Extree! Read all about it! Copyright holders rob you blind!

    Seriously what the fuck do these jokers hope to gain? How much can you expect to profit in this niche market to begin with?

    I'm surprised the fuckers haven't hired thugs to go around and burn down public libraries.

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    1. Re:Rob you blind by WGFCrafty · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I'm sure your pressing dilemmas are on the same level of LACKING FUCKING EYESIGHT.

      This article doesn't talk about getting anything for free, maybe you should study it.

      proposed treaty to allow cross-border sharing of books for the blind

    2. Re:Rob you blind by bmo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ah yes, the entire "American" attitude of "I've got mine! Fuck you!"

      Well, sir, fuck you and fuck off.

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    3. Re:Rob you blind by davester666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "We believe this is an unproductive approach to solving what is a discrete, long-standing problem that affects a group that needs and deserves the protections of the international community".

      The affected group referred to by this sentence is, of course, copyright holders, and they believe the approach is unproductive because it fails to maximize their profits.

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    4. Re:Rob you blind by davester666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh, and this is about new technologies. Libraries are old-school, well entrenched. There would get a HUGE public uproar if they tried to revise copyright laws to stop the loaning of books for free. But for new technology, where rights and privileges aren't so fixed in how they work for the public, copyright holders have realized they need to minimize your rights now to maximize their profits now and later.

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    5. Re:Rob you blind by Runaway1956 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're right. Disabled people of any sort seldom want pity. But, they do expect a fair deal. If I can buy, borrow, sell, or otherwise transfer a more normal pinetree version of a book across borders, why can't blind people do the same with their versions? Huh? What's up with that? Special restrictions for the blind?

      I recognize no borders, BTW. Not for digital, or pine tree, or braille, or whatever. If some dude in Moscow has something I'm interested in, it's just the same as some other dude in Peoria having it.

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  2. Damn blind people by WGFCrafty · · Score: 4, Funny

    Always looking for a way to screw America!

  3. There's a German saying... by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ist der Ruf erst mal ruiniert, lebt sich's völlig ungeniert

    (Once your reputation is ruined, you can act without shame)

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  4. Re:There is something wrong here by KibibyteBrain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They are not opposing this treater per se, but instead any treaty that would set exceptions to the status quo of copyrights. They view it as a threatening precedent to allow any exceptions to copyright law, because it might snowball into eventually allowing society to think about more radical change to copyright.

  5. OUTLAWS by d'fim · · Score: 5, Funny

    But if we outlaw books for the blind, then only the blind will have books! Oh, wait.....

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  6. just a misunderstanding by formfeed · · Score: 4, Funny

    the industry thought "treaty for the blind" meant "treaty readable by the blind"
    - which would seriously compromise the concept of illegible small print.

  7. Re:Too much money and a big pain... by fermion · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Some of this is simply laziness. For example, Building a computer interface that allowing real time scaling of screen blocks so that people with visual impairments can read them is not that hard, yet we did not see that in all major OS until the past five years. Web pages that allow screen reading is not a hugely complex, but many have made no effort to use screen reader.

    But some of this is manufactures trying to keep their inefficient subsided products from being made irrelevant. For instance, who needs a special TTY phone when every cell phone can text? Who needs a special large print books when any e-book can be set to use any size font? Who needs special books on tape when a computer can read a book. None of these may be as good as the specialized product, but the 'good enough' nature certainly appears to make the ingrained interests worried about their future.

    This does not even take account of the fact that technology is allowing some people to work who previously could not, increase the competition in the job market.

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  8. Screw the blind on principle by t0p · · Score: 5, Informative

    Seems to me a lot of people are replying to this without reading the article. Nothing new there, but if said people did read it, they might stop making some pretty dumb comments. Allow me to quote a relevant passage: -------- Many WIPO nations, most in the industrialized world including England, the United States and Canada, have copyright exemptions that usually allow non-profit companies to market copyrighted works without permission. They scan and digitize books into the so-called universal Daisy format, which includes features like narration and digitized Braille. The Daisy Corp. Consortium, a Swiss-based international agency, controls formatting worldwide and has some 100 companies under its direction across the globe. The largest catalog rests in the United States, in which three non-profits, including the Library of Congress, host some half million digital titles produced by federal grants and donations. As it now stands, none of the nations may allow persons outside their borders to access these works, which are usually doled out for little or no charge. The treaty seeks to free up the cross-border sharing of the books for the blind. ------------ A simple example: A British non-profit organization makes books to give/sell cheaply to blind people in Britain *as is currently allowed by WIPO treaty*. But the Brisish organization can't give surplus books to blind people in Ireland. They have to destroy them. The proposal would allow the British organization to give the books to blind foreigners. Just like "piracy" huh? (idiots) Apparently, the industry opposes this on "principle". That's good. It's okay to fuck over the blind so log as it's a principled fucking-over.

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  9. we already have this in the United States by osssmkatz · · Score: 4, Informative

    bookshare.org legally operates out of an exemption from copyright law that allows the visually impaired to subscribe to a library of ebooks in an accessible format. (DAISY)

    I imagine the treaty just extends this internationally.

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