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Google Demonstrates Quantum Computer Image Search

An anonymous reader sends along this quote from New Scientist: "Google's web services may be considered cutting edge, but they run in warehouses filled with conventional computers. Now the search giant has revealed it is investigating the use of quantum computers to run its next generation of faster applications. Writing on Google's research blog this week, Hartmut Neven, head of its image recognition team, reveals that the Californian firm has for three years been quietly developing a quantum computer that can identify particular objects in a database of stills or video (PDF). Google has been doing this, Neven says, with D-Wave, a Canadian firm that has developed an on-chip array of quantum bits — or qubits — encoded in magnetically coupled superconducting loops."

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  1. Already Skynet protects itself by tjstork · · Score: 4, Interesting

    http://royal.pingdom.com/2008/04/11/map-of-all-google-data-center-locations/

    "Google secrecy

    Google has made it difficult both to find out where they keep their data centers and how many they have. One big reason for this is that almost all IP addresses that Google uses (and there are a lot of them) are listed to their Mountain View, California address, so just looking at IP addresses (with IP WHOIS or IP-to-location databases) won’t help you figure out where their data centers are or how many they have.

    In addition to this, Google usually seeks permits for their data center projects using companies (LLCs) that don’t mention Google at all, for example Lapis LLC in North Carolina and Tetra LLC in Iowa.

    Since Google tends to be quite secretive about their data centers in general, the information we have presented here most likely isn’t 100% complete"

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    1. Re:Already Skynet protects itself by Sebilrazen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In addition to this, Google usually seeks permits for their data center projects using companies (LLCs) that don’t mention Google at all, for example Lapis LLC in North Carolina and Tetra LLC in Iowa.

      That's not a Google thing, that's a standard practice. I know for sure AT&T does it, Global Switch in Amsterdam is one of the locations that AT&T has set up operations.

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    2. Re:Already Skynet protects itself by Pflipp · · Score: 5, Funny

      Google has made it difficult both to find out where they keep their data centers and how many they have.

      Well, you can get to know either, but just not both at the same time.

      That's quantum for ya.

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  2. Noooooo by iamapizza · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... for three years been quietly developing a quantum computer that can identify particular objects in a database of stills or video

    I call foul - they're changing the results by observing it!

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    1. Re:Noooooo by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes and no.

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  3. Well... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That would be an interesting departure from their usual "cheap commodity whiteboxes" strategy.

    1. Re:Well... by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That would be an interesting departure from their usual "cheap commodity whiteboxes" strategy

      In the short term, yes. In the long term, perhaps not. On the scale of things Google they're likely to turn into "cheap commodity quantum whiteboxes".

      Either that, or everybody will be able to use the same one simultaneously.

      I project there will be a world need for five of them. None of them will need more than 640k and there will be no need for a personal version in the home.

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  4. Oh no, not D-Wave. by Interoperable · · Score: 5, Informative

    I trust Google not to do anything unbelievably stupid (a bit silly perhaps, but nothing too absurd) but thinking that D-Wave can make a quantum computer is a very, very bad idea. Now it sounds like Google has been working on the algorithm side and I suspect that they're doing good work. The trouble is that D-Wave is doing the hardware. This is a company that has yet to demonstrate any success whatsoever.

    They frequently release press updates saying that they have added more bits to the machine but they have never shown it to work for even a small number of bits. The physicists who developed the idea of an adiabatic quantum computer say that D-Wave seems to have misinterpreted their theory to make unrealistic claims and the whole thing is regarded as a bit of a joke in the physics community.

    That said, developing the algorithms is a worthwhile thing to do so Google may not be relying on D-Wave to justify their research. I hope not. D-Wave may actually be on to something big that they haven't revealed to the scientific community, but probably not.

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    1. Re:Oh no, not D-Wave. by phme · · Score: 4, Informative
      TFA seems to imply the chip is actually working:

      The hardware used in the experiment is an early generation Chimera chip where 52 of the 128 qubits were functioning.

    2. Re:Oh no, not D-Wave. by Interoperable · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sorry to reply to my own comment but I should add a link. It covers, in non technical language, the some of the objections to D-Waves claims, what kind of dubious science their people do and what is bull**** that the marketing people flat out invent. It is only one person's perspective but the guy is very, very capable of evaluating statements made by D-Wave.

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    3. Re:Oh no, not D-Wave. by JamesP · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, I'm sure people at Google would just pour money for three years in the first bozo that claims quantum computing without checking the validity of its claims

      We demonstrate a detector that has learned to spot cars by looking at example pictures. It was trained with adiabatic quantum optimization using a D-Wave C4 Chimera chip. There are still many open questions but in our experiments we observed that this detector performs better than those we had trained using classical solvers running on the computers we have in our data centers today

      For the looks of it D-Wave is totally a scam... NOT

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    4. Re:Oh no, not D-Wave. by pifactorial · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, my first thought was basically, "Ah, Google got a hold of them. That explains why they've been quiet for so long." It's kind of funny that even Google admits they don't quite know what's going on ("various institutions are still in the process of characterizing the chip"), but the fact that it actually, you know, works, has to count for something.

    5. Re:Oh no, not D-Wave. by Interoperable · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wait until all the data's in. I suspect this will revealed to be a coincidence; perhaps not, but I still believe that to be likely. In any case, search for D-Wave and have a read through the link I posted in my follow-up. D-Wave has made some completely incorrect statements in the past and a few out-and-out lies. Maybe they have pulled off what they claim, but there are some very valid doubts raised by the leading researchers in the field. They have certainly never proved quantum operation in a public demonstration.

      From TFA:

      Finally, we mention that the experiments presented here were not designed to test the quantumness of the hardware. Results of such tests will be reported elsewhere.

      Wait until those tests are published in a public forum and are analyzed by experts (not ./ers) before assuming that they in any way have a quantum computer.

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    6. Re:Oh no, not D-Wave. by ldg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you were to make a "quantum leap" that made quantum computing practical, it might behoove you to send mixed signals with your PR. You would want to attract the attention of a buyer who is: 1. aggressively seeking 2. able to pay for, and 3. able to roll out such technology; and you would want to be able to offer something like exclusivity to that buyer. But your public demonstrations would have reduced your competitors' R&D costs, by proving that such a thing is possible. If you "throw" your public demonstrations (make yourself seem like a sensationalistic liar), later you can more easily sweep away most credible evidence of your technology. But your truly motivated buyer will notice even your lame demonstration. Your buyer gets the technology, not in complete secrecy, but in relative, practical secrecy, because no public information about the technology is credible. With apologies to Karl Popper.

  5. Next on Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Google SSL: Search for SSL keys, kindly recovered by Google using quantum computers.

  6. "Quantum Computing" the next "Cloud Computing"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Will faux "quantum computing" become the next over-hyped marketing "strategy" of numerous vendors, much like "cloud computing" has become? Will we be subjected to endless presentations, advertisements, adverblogs, promotions and webcasts about how fantastic it is, even though it doesn't deliver on any of its promises?

    I sure as fuck hope not. It's difficult enough already at my company just getting a simple web server set up. We spend more time fighting off idiot managers who insist we just use "the cloud" and the server will just magically happen.

  7. Re:Wel, There goes encryption... by Oxford_Comma_Lover · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Apparently, there also goes... spelling...

    (Ease bit: quantum computers tend to be specialized for particular algorithms, and we should be moving on to one-time pads anyway (Which are theoretically unbreakable absent social engineering or major design flaw), with some kind of automated exchange of random data whenever we physically visit our banks.)

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  8. I literally cannot tell if they are serious. by Eric+S.+Smith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm sorry, this looks like something that was thrown out of an early draft of Johnny Mnemonic:

    adiabatic quantum algorithm by magnetically coupling superconducting loops called rf-squid flux qubits.

    Not only can I not tell if they're serious, I can't even tell if that means anything.

    The math they present, or even the math on the Wikipedia page for Grover's algorithm, is also completely beyond me. I blame Alan Turing for all of this: if he'd cracked Nazi codes with poetry instead of with math, I'd probably be able to understand computer science.

    As it is, I have to assign a probability p=0.5 to Google posting another blog entry tomorrow in which they admit to making the whole thing up and being tempted to include a reference to "Cookie Monster's postulate" along side "Grover's algorithm".

    1. Re:I literally cannot tell if they are serious. by who+knows+my+name · · Score: 2, Informative

      if you did an undergraduate physics degree, I'd be surprised if you didn't know what all of those words mean. They can all be wikid (not sure I like that word)...

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  9. Detail Search by nanospook · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What would be really useful is if the software can "recognize" details about an image without a human doing so. E.g. Is a car, with red paint, certain model. Is a girl, white tshirt, nipples are showing, hair is in a bun, looks like a dancer, recognized as "this" individual, Then searchers can really search for images that fit patterns and find them.

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    1. Re:Detail Search by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 2, Funny

      Is a girl, white tshirt, nipples are showing, hair is in a bun ... Then searchers can really search for images that fit patterns and find them.

      She's gone man, cherish the memory of that chick at the pool. No quantum computer will bring her back so you can "facebook" her :P

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  10. Quantum Computing Days by Sleen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hi, there are some excellent introductory lectures as an introduction to quantum computing here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I56UugZ_8DI

    Given by Hartmut Neven with a guest appearance from D-Wave on day 2. Watch all of the them including day 3!

    Fascinating topic, though quickly delivered and worth further study and above all experimentation.

    It awesome that google supports work like this.

  11. Re:Danger! Qubits will generate a black hole ... by Hinhule · · Score: 2, Funny

    The black part is just your mind cencoring the memory. ;)

  12. Re:Say good bye to RSA by Jeremi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If Google is capable of this what do you think the NSA and friends are capable of?

    I'm confused -- I thought government was a bunch of hopelessly incompetent bunglers, capable only of wasting taxpayer money, stifling Free Enterprise, and making baby Atlas shrug. Does it turn out that they are super-elite technical wizards, after all?

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  13. D-Wave's potential pitfalls by da+cog · · Score: 4, Informative

    The problem with D-Wave’s approach is that it is not clear how well it can scale. Their adiabatic strategy involves starting in the ground state of one physical system, transforming it into another system very slowly ( “adiabatically” == very slowly), and then hoping that they stay in the ground state all the way to the end of the procedure; if they succeed in this, then they can read out the new state and they have the answer that they want.

    The problem is that this only works as long as it is hard for the system to bump itself up into an excited state. However, as you attack larger and larger problems, the “energy gap” between the ground state and the first excited state shrinks exponentially with the size of the problem, greatly increasing the probability that you won’t end up with the right answer at the end of the computation.

    In order to get around this problem, you need to do two things. First, you need to cool the system down so that its temperature is less than the energy gap. However, D-Wave’s cooling system does not accomplish this --- their temperature is too high. In fact, they freely admit that their temperature is larger than the energy gap, it’s just that they are gambling that in practice they can get away with it.

    Second, you need to run the transformation very slowly --- at a speed that is roughly proportionate to the size of the energy gap. This might also turn out to case problems for D-Wave as they start scaling up their system to attack useful problems. Furthermore, although they have demonstrated a case where their computer shows a speedup over classical algorithms, this should be taken with a great of salt because as I understand it they basically applied their algorithm in a case where conditions favored it. (Mind you, that isn’t in itself a bad thing --- it is good to understand the conditions under which an existing quantum computer can ever beat an existing classical computer; given the infancy status of the field, I amazed that this can be done at all!)

    So in short: no, D-Wave is not a scam, but they are taking a gamble that certain theoretical problems will not bite them in practice, and most QC researches tend to believe that they will lose this gamble even though we hope that they will win it.

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    1. Re:D-Wave's potential pitfalls by pddo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just out of interest - who is competing against D-Wave in this space?

    2. Re:D-Wave's potential pitfalls by da+cog · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No one, really --- at least, none that I am aware of. Most of the technology is still very much in its infancy, so nobody else is making a big push to turn it into a product yet. Having said that, I suppose it is possible that the NSA has a secret quantum computer and is using it to break our codes even as we speak, though I don't know if that counts as an economic competitor.

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    3. Re:D-Wave's potential pitfalls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Disclaimer: i am from the QC field (not at D-Wave) but here i am yet another Anonymous Coward.

      a) I consider it highly unlikely that the NSA has a secret quantum computer. All techologies which i know are 15-30 years from a working QC. i would believe if somebody tells me that the NSA has something which is 5 years more advanced, but not much more.

      b) The field of QC is so patent-ridden that it should be easy for you to find out to whom d-wave is a competitor - and about multiple qubit interactions which are to be uses adiabatically i point to the IPHT Jena (i also am not working for them but they have collaborators with some earlier relation to d-wave). The only things on which -AFAIU- d-wave is leading are press releases, raised venture capital, number of well-filtered LF-control lines in their cryostate, and patenting everything they can get hold of.

      c) Adiabatic QC was invented to overcome certain difficulties - or lets say "avoid" them. The price you have to pay fo the way in which d-wave does it is yet unknown, but they plainly restrict the Algorithms they want to perform to a well-chosen set of problems. Which -i think- is cool if they find an application for these algorithms; however it would be the task of scientific journalists to dig a little deeper and point the difference out. It is not D-Waves Job, a company looking for venture capital from time to time, to point out which *problems* and *misunderstanding* there may be in the public.

      d) D-waves research has, in my opinion, two functions (i personally see that neutral), namely to have the control technology ready if somebody comes up with a working qubit and to strengthen their own big pool of patens so that everybody would have to make mutual agreements with them to be able to build a QC (it is my personal estimation that it is impossible to build a superconducting QC without hitting one of their patents).

      e) I dont understand why d-wave causes so much stir in the qubit community. They usually fish in other pools of money, and what they publish in journals is sound. What they publish usually far diverging from their press releases, but everybody knows that press releases have to taken with a grain of salt. May it be the leader of the free world posing in front of a "mission accomplished" sign, the Chinese government telling you how good human rights are in the ten square meters on front of the camera or smiling bank managers who sit on tens on billions of bad loans.

  14. Schrödinger's lolcat by RevWaldo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Test User: OK, so what you're saying is that if I search for lolcats using Google's quantum image search, it will give me an array of lolcat images to choose from, but until I open the image we won't know if the lolcat is funny or not funny? That makes sense.

    Google Scientist: Actually, before you look at the image the lolcat is in a state of superposition. Before your look at the photo it can be both funny AND not funny. By the act of you observing the photo it settles into one of those two states.

    Test user: So there's a 50/50 chance of the exact same photo being funny or not funny?

    Google Scientist: Essentially yes. Well, unless you go by the "many worlds" model, which states that if you look at the picture, you become entangled with the lolcat, so that the observation of the humor of the lolcat, and the actual humor of the lolcat are joined together. There will exist a universe where you find the image funny, and a universe where you find the image not funny, but these two universes cannot inform each other of these two different states.

    Test User: I think I understand.

    Google Scientist: Go ahead, click on one of the images from the search.

    Test User: Now, you're sure nothing bad will happen? No black holes will open up or anything?

    Google Scientist (amused): Yes, I'm absolutely sure.

    Test User: OK, I'll try this one.

    (The user clicks the image.)

    Test User: OH NOES! (faints.)