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Lake On Titan Winks From a Billion Kilometers Away

The Bad Astronomer writes "NASA's Cassini spacecraft took an image of Saturn's giant moon Titan earlier this year that serendipitously provides proof of liquid (probably methane) on its surface. The picture shows a glint of reflected sunlight off of a monster lake called Kraken Mare (larger than the Caspian Sea!). Scientists have been getting better and better evidence of liquid methane on Titan, but this is the first direct proof."

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  1. And given the possibility of life... by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Informative

    Prior to this, the main evidence that Titan might have liquid methane was based on the reflection of radio waves detected by the Cassini probe. In particular, there were discrepancies between what one would expect and what was observed in the percentage of reflection in the ELF range (about 2 to 30 Hz). This discrepancy suggests some form of boundary layer, such as a boundary between liquid and solid methane or between liquid methane and some other solid substance. There's also a lot of evidence for a large internal methane sea under the solid surface. We still know very little about Titan. We've only sent a single probe (Huygens) actually dedicated to investigating it. However, even Huygens wasn't much and was just a part of the larger Cassini mission. The next scheduled mission is the TSSM (Titan Saturn System Mission) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_Saturn_System_Mission http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/index.cfm?fobjectid=44033) which will focus a lot more on Titan. Hopefully a lot of the mysteries about the moon will then be answered.

    Titan is routinely used as an example of a moon that might have life. Unfortunately, if there is any life, it is almost certainly microbial. So no one is appreciating the view from the planet.

  2. Re:How do they know it's methane by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Informative

    We know that Titan has a lot of methane. The main reason is that the radiation it gives off is consistent with methane. In particular, we can use spectroscopy to confirm that the light given off is highly consistent with methane reflecting light from the sun. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectroscopy. We have evidence for the methane nature both in the visible range, infrared range and certain other ranges that is consistent with methane and not much else. Moreover, methane is very stable and fairly common (as chemicals go) so even if we didn't have very good spectroscopic data, it would be the most likely guess.

  3. Re:Where do the hydrocarbons come from? by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 4, Informative

    Methane is the precursor to organic molecules, in a more general sense, not the result of biological processes. When you're the simplest combination of carbon (what, the fourth most abundant element in the universe?) and hydrogen (the most abundant element), it's hard to argue that your existence requires biological processes. (Particularly as methane is found everywhere volatiles can be found in our solar system and outside of it.)

    Perhaps you're confused by the fact that methane on Earth is usually the result of biological activity? That's because in our peculiar atmosphere, methane can't survive long before oxidation.

  4. Re:billion kilometers by dsoltesz · · Score: 4, Informative

    No matter how you say it, it's wrong. It winks from 200,000 kilometers away. The rest of the distance was just data transfer.

  5. Re:billion kilometers by Herve5 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually it's one and a half hour away. At light' speed, I mean.

    I happen to have been tech resp. of the european Huygens probe that Cassini brought to Titan, and what I remember the most from the time of Huygens descent and landing years ago, is this feeling that all the active descent has *already* happened, while here on Earth we didn't yet have received the first bits of info, radiowave that were still into the travel.

    Indeed that was a very real way of measuring distance. Saturn definitely is not close...

    Hervé S. (now back on more conventional Earth observation spacecraft designs ;-)

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    Herve S.