Has a Decade of .NET Delivered On Microsoft's Promises?

cyclocommuter writes with this snippet from The Register's assessment of whether Microsoft's .NET framework has been a success: "If the goal of .NET was to see off Java, it was at least partially successful. Java did not die, but enterprise Java became mired in complexity, making .NET an easy sell as a more productive alternative. C# has steadily grown in popularity, and is now the first choice for most Windows development. ASP.NET has been a popular business web framework. The common language runtime has proved robust and flexible. ... Job trend figures here show steadily increasing demand for C#, which is now mentioned in around 32 per cent of UK IT programming vacancies, ahead of Java at 26 per cent."

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No

[smooth wombat]

Next question.

Java Is Victorious

[curmudgeon99]

What planet do these guys live on? .NET and C# are being destroyed in the market. Go to Monster.com or Dice.com and do a search on Java/J2EE/JEE versus .NET/C#. Java has won and the complexity of the platform is merely a sign of its maturity. Also, no shop uses everything--they use what they want and build their own stack. That's not something that's possible in the .NET world where, to paraphrase Henry Ford, you can have any color as long as it's .NET/C#. They define the stack, not you. I gave up on Microsoft technologies in 1998 and have never spent another dime on any MS products since. I marvel that people still do, given he torrent of trojans/viruses and other malware that plague the platform.

Asp.Net is NOT a 'popular' business framework.

[unity100]

please dont bullcrap if you are not in industry. i am one of the web developers who specializes in ecommerce web development. and the current situation is, nothing is able to come close to php+mysql for developing ecommerce/business websites. leave aside individual requests for quotes, the projects you will see in contract websites like elance, rentacoder and the like will be predominantly php+mysql. you will be hard pressed to find asp / asp.net projects as a fraction of them even.

the situation is so ridiculous that despite new lamp developers get into business every single day, demand seems to be rising faster than the supply and there is not a lack of projects, even for people who are charging a few times the rate indian houses charge.

the only clients who go with, or stuck with asp.net are corporate clients which are bigger than medium size. because they are already locked in with microsoft products, the natural route they choose happens to be going ms all the way. however, the number of such clients are few, because a corporation which is of medium size and larger would easily be able to have their own i.t. department, and make them work on their ecommerce/business project. few such projects are contracted out to software houses or developers. not that there are many medium+ sized corporations looking to set up an ecommerce/business presence on the web either ...

therefore lamp is the predominant choice in all respects. its so very curious that a 'php developer' has become a broad, generic definition - there have come up a lot of specializations. 'scripts' of yesterday have grown to become specialization areas in themselves. the 'php' part is expected by default ...... ecommerce developer. oscommerce developer. phpbb developer. vbulletin developer. joomla developer. postnuke developer. people post up jobs with these titles, not even needing to mention php, because its accepted as default.

dont err me by thinking that i am a php fanatic, or ms enemy. true, i love php. and true, i dislike ms. but foremost, im a professional. the current state of market is as thus, and all are - naturally - obliged to respect its demands.

Re:Yes.

[gtall]

Wow, did you swallow a MS marketdroid?

Re:.Not

[rock_climbing_guy]

Goodness gracious! What were they thinking?

Why did this platform have to be named ".net" Oh, Microsoft .net, let me point my browser at that. As if there couldn't be a worse name than .net, we come out with Mono? Mono??? Seriously, freaking mono? That sounds like something that's going to make me sick!!! Why don't we have open source aids and flu libraries while we're at it?

hahahaha!

[mpapet]

96% of all phones support it,

You mean 'support' by having device-specific runtimes, right? The mythic write once run everywhere is just that, a myth. How about a stop watch application as an example? A stop watch, while not simple is neither overly complex either and has no special GUI, yet phone specific.

“enterprise” server development
The complexity of Java Server apps creates as many issues as they appear to solve and hasn't been shown to provide an overwhelming advantage. "Broken Windows" parable all over again.

Java is no 'silver bullet.' Which is why there are at least a few viable alternatives. You would be wise to step off the Java bandwagon before Oracle screws it up even more.