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Alien Screenwriter Dan O'Bannon, Dead At 63

Dave Knott writes "The notable science fiction screenwriter and director Dan O'Bannon has died at the age of 63. O'Bannon's career began with a writing credit for John Carpenter's Dark Star and he went on the write many enduring science fiction and horror films such as Blue Thunder, Lifeforce, Screamers and Total Recall. He was also an occasional director, whose credits include The Return Of The Living Dead, the campy horror film that made popular the zombie chant of 'braaiiiinnnsss.' However, he will be best remembered as the writer of Alien, one of the all-time classics of both the science fiction and horror genres. O'Bannon died after a 30 year battle with Crohn's disease and is survived by his wife, Diane, and son, Adam."

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  1. Unfortunate by nerdtalker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's sad, I wonder whether he got to see Avatar. Alien is a masterwork of a sci-fi movie though. I almost put it on when I got home today.

    1. Re:Unfortunate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Avatar? Pass, that movie looks like a bad video game. Cameron's Aliens and the original terminator and the only films of his I've willingly sat through twice.

      I thought Dan O'Bannons PKD adaptations were okay, Total Recall made for entertaining mainstream fare and Screamers I enjoyed (although it's far from being a good film). Alien is an example of what a good script can become when it's given over to someone with talent. It wasn't until the studio saw some of Ridley Scotts pre-production art that they realised what they had. Most hack directors would have seen a bug-eyed monster B movie, Scott saw something else entirely.

      The time was right for Alien, by way of the never-made '70s Dune movie that a few of the team, O'Bannon and Geiger included, had worked on. Not to discount the 'Star Beast' script but what you see on screen was a group effort. I don't want to give the impression I'm pissing on the guys grave, the studio execs and writers reponsible for Alien3 and onwards have been pissing in that hole for a very long time.

      Alien was a small part of what O'Bannon was responsible for.

    2. Re:Unfortunate by cenc · · Score: 1

      I am with you. I was looking for something worthy of really testing out a new home theater system and that hits the mark perfectly.

    3. Re:Unfortunate by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

      I agree. I think Avatar is going to be the most overrated movie for sometime. That happens with a lot of Cameron's movies.

    4. Re:Unfortunate by paiute · · Score: 1

      I saw the trailer and thought "Dances With Wolves" ...IN SPACE!

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    5. Re:Unfortunate by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1

      Big deal. I saw Dance With Wolves as Little Big Man...DURING THE CIVIL WAR!

      Avatar may not be a great movie, but using the "this story's been told before" argument is weak. There are only two types of stories in the world, anyway: Man Goes On A Journey, or A Stranger Comes To Town.

      Sad. You'd think geeks would be a little more au fait with their storytelling tropes.

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    6. Re:Unfortunate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      There are only two types of stories in the world, anyway: Man Goes On A Journey, or A Stranger Comes To Town.

      That's the kind of fatuous crap that unimaginative Hollywood execs say at parties to try to sound clever. The only way you can say "there are only x type of stories" is to vastly oversimplify.
        Which of those two is Romeo and Juliet, hmmm?

        You'd think geeks would know better, with their predilection for speculative fiction, a group of genres that have a knack for breaking out unconventional storylines. What story type is Olaf Stapledon's Star Maker? How about Lovecraft's The Doom that Came to Sarnath?
        There are at least as many stories as there are good storytellers -- any good storyteller has one original story in him, at the bare minimum.

    7. Re:Unfortunate by bertoelcon · · Score: 1

      There are only two types of stories in the world, anyway: Man Goes On A Journey, or A Stranger Comes To Town.

      Which of those two is Romeo and Juliet, hmmm?

      Its the first one, love is a journey.

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    8. Re:Unfortunate by Zerth · · Score: 1

      More like "Winds of Altair" but with humanoids instead of 6-legged lions and magic rocks instead of living space.

    9. Re:Unfortunate by Artifakt · · Score: 1

      Romeo and Juliet? You mean like Lion King 2 but with a sad ending?

      (Hamlet = Lion King 1 with a sad ending. Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead = Lion King 3 with a sad ending (Indeed Stoppard's characters are certainly less existentially absurd than Timmon and Pumbah). Lion King 4 will doubtless be King Lear, but with the loyal daughter eventually being recognised for her virtues and showing her two sisters the error of their ways).

      let's see: 'Starmaker' is to 'Last and First Men' as 'The Mummy 2' is to 'The Mummy', or at most, as 'Second Stage Lensman' is to 'Triplanetary', only Stapledon was more spherical (less glossy surface, much more interior volume). More seriously, Stapledon's 'Starmaker' is to his 'Darkness and the Light', as 'Last and First' is to 'Starmaker'. (And incidentally, I'm talking about the Fraser/Weisz Mummy films above, not the greater originals.) Stapledon's non-fiction isn't equivalent to any of these, but 'Waking World' and 'Seven Pillars of Peace' most particularly aren't like any of his fiction. Yet, Stapledon and Lovecraft both put a very similar emphasis on dreaming.
            My real point, above, is Starmaker is a sequel, one where the author deliberately tried to re-do what he had already done, but (again, deliberately) on a bigger scale. That's an odd choice to cite as a unique work.

      'Doom that Came to Sarnath' is 'The Fortress Unvanquishable, Save for Sacnoth' is any of a dozen Twilight Zone Episodes transposed to a more clearly fantastic setting. (And Dunsany said 'fortress' was 'Masque of the Red Death', but that's clearly impossible, as 'masque' is Lovecraft's 'The Outsider', not 'Doom that Came'). Since Lovecraft's 'At the Mountains of Madness' is also obviously Poe's 'Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym','Doom that came to Sarnath' just about has to be Poe's 'Hopfrog', yet 'Hopfrog' is even more obviously 'Shadows over Insmouth'. My real point, this time, is that Lovecraft considered 'Doom' to be one of his deliberate pastiches of Lord Dunsany's works, which again makes it seem odd to call the work unconventional, or outside of type.

      Still, 'Dreams in the Witch House' is definitely 'Man Goes on a Journey', while 'The Dunwich Horror' is definitely 'A Stranger Comes to Town'. 'Nyarlathotep' is only a fragment, so it must be of the form 'A Stranger Com...'.

      Two might be a 'little' low, but at least as many as there are good storytellers strikes me as just a trifle high, by your own examples.

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    10. Re:Unfortunate by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm guessing in 20 years, they'll still be teaching Alien in film school while Avatar will only be a footnote.

      I've been wrong before. But Alien is such an innovative, creative, masterpiece... it's hard to imagine otherwise. And other than the DOS-looking computer screens, the movie hasn't aged in twenty years.

    11. Re:Unfortunate by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Good points. But it's 30 years!

    12. Re:Unfortunate by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Well, if it hasn't aged in 30 years, then obviously it also hasn't aged in 20 years also. *cough* It's not like I just botched a really, really simple math problem or anything.

  2. My heart goes out to him... by vorpal22 · · Score: 5, Informative

    As a 32 year old fellow sufferer of an extremely serious case of Crohn's Disease, I can tell you that it is a terrible battle: every day I face large amounts of pain and feelings of illness (e.g. my hemoglobin is 70 due to internal bleeding and should be around 170, making it difficult for me to do anything without feeling exhausted - walking up a flight of stairs nearly makes me faint). Crohn's has stripped me of my quality of life: the limitations it places on me make every day a challenge and it has stripped me of many of my dreams. Indeed, it got so bad that, seeing it as my last option, I tried to kill myself last May to escape from the ravages of this disease (I would have been successful, but I was discovered before I died). Right now I wait for surgery to remove 1 m of my intestines, which should help the situation, but euthanasia is still an option I consider to continue and will pursue if the surgery does not improve my quality of life.

    Crohn's research is seriously underfunded, and the cause of this disease or its sister disease, Ulcerative Colitis, is not known. Also, the incidence of Crohn's appears to be on the rise to the point where some countries (e.g. Scotland) have deemed it a near epidemic. I urge you, if you like O'Bannon's work, to make a donation to the Crohn's and Colitis Foundation in your country:

    USA: http://www.ccfa.org/
    Canada: http://www.ccfc.ca/

    1. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      A nasty illness to be sure

      Symptoms:

              * persistent diarrhoea
              * abdominal pain
              * cramping
              * rectal bleeding
              * fever
              * weight loss
              * skin or eye irritations
              * delayed growth in children.

      More links

      Ireland: http://www.iscc.ie/
      Europe: http://www.efcca.org/

      p.s Alien is easily one of the best Sci-Fi movies of all time if not the best. Like Yorkie, it's not for girls! (except bad-ass girls)

    2. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      My sympathies go out to his family as this hit close to home for me for different reasons.
      My father also just died (Nov 25th)at 63 in a car accident, my brother also in the same crash. I miss them both
      pretty badly. Especially my brother as he was my best friend also.
          It's something you more get used to than over as the pain becomes a reminder of the love in your heart and the good memories allow you to cope more as time goes on.
          My advice is to say the things you'd regret not saying to those you care about NOW, my brother was only 35 and you just don't know when someones number is up. My dad's house and my brother's room in our apartment look like they just stepped out for a couple hours and indeed they had. Don't wait for tomorrow or next week, it might be to late then.
            I hope his family can find solace in one another and the knowledge that he left good works that will persist in the memories of so many fans.
            No comfort can equal the pain, but I wish them all they can find. And the fewer that truly understand this, the better.

      Mycroft

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    3. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have Crohns as well, but due to a strict low residue and bland diet along with the drug Infliximab [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infliximab] which I have been getting for the last two years my quality of life has improved dramatically from where it was.

      As for O'Bannon, Alien is a classic that helped bring Sci-Fi to the masses imho.

    4. Re:My heart goes out to him... by IllForgetMyNickSoonA · · Score: 1

      Man, that sucks, sorry to hear that. I most sincerely hope the surgery will improve your condition!

    5. Re:My heart goes out to him... by vorpal22 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm also on Remicade (infliximab), at a much higher than standard dosage (700 mg / 6 weeks). It has made a huge difference in my life: prior to starting it, I spent six months in bed with a near constant fever of 102-104F, weight loss of 60 lbs, night sweats, severe malnutrition, 20-30 bowel movements per day, vomiting, etc. About ten minutes after my first administration, for the first time in six months, I didn't have a fever.

      Unfortunately, though, my Crohn's is very aggressive, and Remicade just isn't enough: colonoscopies demonstrate significant areas of active disease throughout my intestines. I'm still substantially ill and my quality of life, while much better, is still extremely low compared to a normal person. Part of the issue is that I have extreme thickening of 60 cm of small intestine just above the terminal ileum, and 30 cm of large intestine in the descending / sigmoid colon, so I get a lot of intestinal blockages (usually one partial blockage per day, sometimes more). Because of this, food is quite terrifying for me, and there are few foods I can eat that don't seem to affect me (right now my diet is limited to four foods that seem to be completely safe). This sucks, because I'm actually a huge foodie and absolutely adore food: it's my main passion in life and has been for many years. Indeed, at one point, I nearly left my PhD CS program to pursue culinary school. Thank goodness I didn't, as someone with a bowel disease like Crohn's would have many challenges in such a career.

      Right now I'm receiving monthly blood transfusions to try to increase my hemoglobin levels and general nutrition, and waiting for surgery. Unfortunately, the wait time for my surgeon is 6-9 months (*sigh*... Canadian health care system is just too slow). My blockages have been getting progressively worse, so I'm not sure that I will be able to make it that long.

      Thank goodness I was able to find a family doctor willing to prescribe pain medication. I would most certainly have killed myself by now had it not been for that. This seems to be a huge problem, though, for Crohn's sufferers: many people simply can't find doctors willing to help them manage their pain. When I moved a year ago, one of the GPs I visited in my attempts to find a new doctor, upon hearing my list of medications (which is extensive: I also take Cipro, Pentasa, Oxycontin, and Percocet for my Crohn's in addition to other medications for other health problems), basically spent 15 minutes telling me off and accusing me of being a junky who was trying to use him to feed my addiction. I was too sick at the time to argue or fight back, but I left in tears (and I'm not known to have a propensity for crying), and it was a terrible experience and made me feel absolutely horrible.

      The demonization of opioids and the stigmas attached to them make it extremely difficult for one to seek adequate pain management. This is even more troubling because when one is in pain, it is already difficult to muster up the strength to perform basic daily tasks, let alone go through the process of interviewing doctors and advocating for yourself to find someone who will treat you properly. It seems that O'Bannon was well acquainted with this, based on the fact that, according to the article, he was working on a screenplay called "The Pain Clinic".

      I'm so glad to hear that Remicade is working well for you, and I hope that that continues! Best of luck!

    6. Re:My heart goes out to him... by vorpal22 · · Score: 1

      Thank you for the kind words. They're very much appreciated. I feel confident that the surgery will help - I just have my fingers crossed that the difference will be enough!

    7. Re:My heart goes out to him... by vorpal22 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Should anyone be curious, here's a link to a LiveJournal post where I ask my fellow members of one of LJ's more prominent IBD (inflammatory bowel disease, a collective term for Crohn's, colitis, and a couple other conditions) communities how they describe their Crohn's Disease to other people. I found the answers quite interesting:

      http://community.livejournal.com/we_got_guts/569491.html

    8. Re:My heart goes out to him... by g253 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hey, I know this is just an online forum, but I feel I gotta say what I'm suprised noone else has said yet : don't kill yourself!
      Seriously, I won't claim I know how you feel because I can't possibly fathom what it must be like to suffer that much. But I know there are some people who carry on despite terrible diseases and constant pain, so I know it must be possible somehow. Adaptation takes time, I guess, but I think it's possible.

      The point is, you can never know for sure what life has in store. It may seem completely hopeless now, but what if six months after you kill yourself some researcher stumbles entirely by chance upon a new drug that works wonders for Crohn's? You won't be able to feel silly, because you'll be dead. Besides, you never know what an individual can bring to others, or just how important he can be. What if you turn out to have a child that becomes the new Gandhi? What if your friendship and example of courage prevents someone else from comitting suicide, and that person goes on help thousands of others somehow?

      I don't want to appear to give you lessons, but I genuinely believe that struglling for survival is always the most logical option. Sometimes you have no power to improve your situation at all, but that possibility may come later. To take advantage of it, you have to survive long enough. You want to get rid of your suffering, and suicide will do that. But it will also rid you of the enjoyment of not suffering, making the whole thing pointless.

    9. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nice work hijacking this article. I am glad I get to read all about you and your life. Good work!

    10. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Beve+Jates · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Actually that's not the "right" way to do it. There is too much of a chance that it won't kill you. Also, consider the poor people that have to clean up after you and consider the aftermath your family would have to be looking at.

      There are painless, humane and 100% guaranteed ways to do it. I won't post the best method but there is a description on Wikipedia and I'm sure a simple search for assisted suicide will provide enough information.

      Not that I in any way recommend this person kill themselves. Often it can be worth the suffering just for the benefit of your family and sometimes they have medical breakthroughs regarding whatever you are suffering from. With that said, I can see where suicide may be a viable option when all you experience is constant pain.

    11. Re:My heart goes out to him... by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

      Did you not see the end of Fight Club? It's not nice if you fuck it up.

    12. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Great post and you're right that people should not kill themselves but I have to say that it sounds like you have never experienced real chronic pain.

      It's real easy to say "get over it" when you have never experienced it at its worst (whether it be depression, anxiety, any other chronic pain, etc). I used to think I was open minded but it wasn't until I truly experienced something like this that I realized why people sometimes feel the way they do and make the choices they do.

    13. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was going to make a wise-crack comment based on the juxtaposition of the words in the headline, but after reading your post, I think I will make a donation to the Crohn's and Colitis Foundation as suggested.

    14. Re:My heart goes out to him... by misexistentialist · · Score: 1

      Everyone should make that decision for himself. Time will certainly bring additional suffering to each one of us, and the majority of people do end up outliving themselves. It is something of a miracle to continue, and not to be discouraged, but it is hardly "most logical."

    15. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Yeah my friend, people fear death. But that’s because they don’t know how bad “life” can be.

      Choose the way that, all things considered, is the best for you.
      When I get in such situations, I stop caring for all the stupid pointless rules of society. Wich at least makes life great in every aspect that’s not wrecked by that big problem. :)

      I just wonder, what the cause is, in your case. I looked at the Wikipedia page, and it listed a lot of (to me) unrelated environmental causes. If it’s not a genetic problem (dunno), then how about a complete difference analysis?
      You know. Change *everything* in your life (even do the complete opposite), and look what that changes. (If it doesn’t change a noticeable thing after half a year, you can still switch back. But if it *does*...)

      Sometimes, and especially when doctors tell you there is no cure (which just means that they do not know a cure, not that it’s incurable, which would be silly), the solutions are simpler than one thinks.

      You know how autoimmune diseases are said to be incurable? Well, I stopped believing that, when I saw them vanish with my own eyes. The only change? A change in diet. (In this case, a friend of mine just stopped eating any animal-based proteins. Especially heated ones. And started eating more whole-grain-based long carbohydrates. He went from suffocating without his medicine, to not ever needing it again.)
      Very often, in a cascade over decades, tiny things throw the whole natural system of cycles out of balance.

      Now I’m not saying that it’s food in your case. You know that I don’t know much about your case.
      But I just could not close this window, without at least offering what I know about serious “incurable” diseases, that strangely disappear after small changes in lifestyle.

      Please try to change as much in your life as possible. Go caveman and eat what you think is most species-appropriate, live that way (if possible), do things that way. I think it’s really worth a try.
      (Just my best shot... from my experience.)

      I wish you luck, but that you don’t even need it. :D

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    16. Re:My heart goes out to him... by MartinSchou · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But I know there are some people who carry on despite terrible diseases and constant pain, so I know it must be possible somehow.

      I can't say I know how he feels. Or you feel. Obviously you feel that taking your own life is a bad idea, but - why make the choice illegal? Or rather, why make aiding it illegal.

      My dad watched his dad lie hooked up to machines for about a month before passing away. Then a few years later he watched his mom in the same situation. This October he saw his youngest daughter pass away after having spent almost two weeks in an induced coma, hooked up to an ECMO as doctors worked frantically to try to save her from dying of complications from Sharp's Syndrome, with I think ten IV-tubes running into her, breathing tube in her mouth, two massively thick tubes handling the blood flow in and out of her body as well as dialysis apparatus.

      Sadly I wasn't there when she was finally let go. And my mom is pissed that the first thing my dad said after she was declared dead, was that if he ever ended up in a situation like that, he didn't want to be saved. That's where euthanasia comes into play. Even before then.

      Euthanasia can be done in really simple ways as well. Doesn't even have to be expensive, messy or painful. You could go out with a huge sense of euphoria on your lips. I present to you: Nitrogen asphyxiation. All you really need is a tight fitting face mask for ventilation and pure nitrogen. Essentially a slightly modified SCUBA kit.

      It takes about 15 seconds for someone to lose conciousness and about 7 minutes until brain death sets in. The organs are, I believe, unharmed, which is a good thing if you plan on being a donor. There is a very minute risk (I think I read 1:1,000,000) of painful side effects, but these will only last until the person is unconscious, again no more than 15 to 20 seconds, and then they'll be at peace.

      As for the "what ifs", they're just silly.

      What if you turn out to have a child that becomes the new Gandhi?

      What if you turn out to have a child that becomes the new Hitler? Are those two lives (yours and your child's) really worth the lives and suffering of millions? If we just go by 'what if', we should never have children, as for every Ghandi, Mother Theresa, Martin Luther King Jr. and Nelson Mandela, we also end up with a Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and Papa Doc. For every Norman Borlaug, the agronomist and humanitarian who essentially saved a billion people from starvation, we also end up with a Thomas Midgley, the man behind such wonderful innovations as leaded engines and CFCs. Both were effective at what they were designed for, sure, but the man essentially made a hole in the ozone layer the size of Antarctica and gave every single child in the world lead poisoning - by himself.

      Do you really want to be responsible for the next Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Papa Doc or Thomas Midgley? Those are the risk we take when we think we might be the proud parents of the next Ghandi, Mother Theresa, Martin Luther King Jr., Nelson Mandela or Norman Borlaug.

      My point still stands. Euthanasia needs to be legal, and it needs to be a cheap and simple one at that. I'd go for nitrogen asphyxiation.

    17. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Polybius · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If it doesn't gross you out too much you may want to find and take part in a controlled study like this: http://www.drugs.com/forum/alternative-medicine/worms-crohns-disease-23351.html
      Purposely infecting oneself with parasitic worms (helminths) and reaping the benefits of their immunosuppression. The results look promising.

    18. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sorry, but that ‘don’t kill yourself” usually comes from people who can’t imagine a situation, where killing yourself actually is the best option.
      Yes, this is very hard to swallow for everyone of us. Because these situations are very rare. And that’s why we say “don’t kill yourself” in the first place, and why it’s a good idea to use that mindset in general. :)

      But, man. There are things that are so horrible, that forcing someone who is in that situation, to live anyway, is just being a heartless selfish bastard, and also is torture.
      (Please don’t think I’d say that you are like that. I think not “walking past” by closing the window, is a wonderful character trait.)

      As someone who already was in situations worse than dead (Not your emo “worse than dead”. Horrible nightmarish seemingly never ending “worse than dead”), I can tell you that the only reason I still exist, is that I KNEW... NOT guessed... KNEW, that this would end some day.
      If it would be without end, then from a rational standpoint of a healthy thinking human, I would be dead already. And I would be happy with it. I don’t see death as something bad. In many cultures it is celebrated as something good. And we’re just bio-mass with ideas anyway. If we pass those on to *anyone*, then we *literally* continue to exist. Only a part went away. And that’s not bad at all, is it?

      But no, please do not misunderstand this as me advocating death (I know you did ;). As I said, in general, I fully agree with you and the “don’t kill yourself’.

      I just learned, that there are (rare) situations, where that would be delusional, irrational, cruel, and all around bad. Therefore I can’t be that generalizing in my views anymore. :)
      Hey, I seriously wish that you will never know such situations for yourself. :)
      And I wish that if you face such a situation, that you aren’t irrationally cruel too.

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    19. Re:My heart goes out to him... by vorpal22 · · Score: 1

      I've absolutely considered helminthic therapy, but after investigating, realized that there was no way that I could afford it: the little buggers are freakishly expensive! Given that you have to administer them repeatedly, too, it just wasn't possible for now.

      Being a graduate student has certainly been a mixed blessing in terms of my disease: I get the luxury of working from home and setting my hours depending on my health, but the low income certainly affects what treatment options are feasible for me to try.

    20. Re:My heart goes out to him... by vorpal22 · · Score: 1

      With all of my heart, thank you.

    21. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Barny · · Score: 1

      My doctor currently has me on a different immune suppressor as well as collazide and a small dose (30mg or so a week) of prednisolone for my relatively mild case (thank your deity of choice) of crohns, its dealing with it quite well, however the main side effect of the damn steroid is rapid weight gain, I am struggling constantly to maintain my body weight (without that particular drug I would be dropping about a kilo a fortnight).

      Might ask my specialist if he could consider that drug in my case, would be damn good to be able to eat a regular amount of food again.

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    22. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a new drug called Humira (brand name) that is fully humanised and what my specialist told me can be administered in a insulin pen like form (thus self administering).

      It's not NICE approved yet in the UK meaning you can't get it on the NHS just yet, that is unless you have a reaction to Remicade in which case you can.

      Must say the NHS has been a godsend for me, MRI scans (all 6 of them) within a week or even just a day later (yes I was gob-smacked, this is supposed to be the NHS! ;p), no problems with specialists, surgeries etc and been taken really good care of. I only shudder at having to do private medical cover and costs for what I have had. (BUPA won't cover me for anything to do with my illness or even possibly related unless I pay for those treatments :( )

      An interesting article I read a while ago was that Crohns and certain types of Diabetes share a common gene, makes sense, the body attacking itself.

      Crohns is one of those things you find people suffer in silence with, or get funny looks when you order food at a restaurant without x,y,z, no alcohol etc. Although I have make some people squirm when describing what it actually is!

      Anyhow I hope you improve and find something to help you.

    23. Re:My heart goes out to him... by g253 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But I never said it should be illegal, where did you get that from? I think everyone should be free do end their life whenever they want, and should be helped if they're unable to do it for themselves. I'm only saying it's very often a bad idea, and suggesting that there may be some hope. Is that so crazy?

      Beyond our purely thoeretical discussion about philosophy and politics, there's someone talking seriously about suicide. For real. I just don't feel like joining the apathetic lack of reaction, the "meh, whatever, he's free to do it" attitude.
      Sure he's free to do it, and he should definitely be allowed to make that decision. I am merely suggesting he doesn't.

    24. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Qzukk · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but that ‘don’t kill yourself” usually comes from people who can’t imagine a situation, where killing yourself actually is the best option.

      The majority of them can: ask them about what child molesters should do.

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      If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
    25. Re:My heart goes out to him... by vorpal22 · · Score: 1

      Remicade (infliximab) and Humira (adalimumab) are specific immunosuppressants: they only inhibit TNF-alpha (tumor necrosis factor alpha). For this reason, they're better than the traditional immunosuppressants in the treatment of Crohn's, and tend to have fewer side effects. The problem is that they do have some possible side effects that are quite terrifying (highly increased risk of some types of cancer, for example), and given that Remicade is made from mouse proteins, it can cause severe allergic reactions in some people.

      Still, for Crohn's, I highly recommend trying Remicade. It's a miracle drug for many people, and not only puts Crohn's into remission, but begins to heal the damage that was caused by Crohn's itself. The only other problem is cost: a typical treatment schedule runs about $50,000 - $100,000 / year. It's administered in the hospital every eight weeks via IV over a period of three hours or so.

    26. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Er, maybe you should check where you are storing your sword.

    27. Re:My heart goes out to him... by MartinSchou · · Score: 1

      I didn't mean to imply that you thought it should be illegal (euthanasia, not suicide). I apologize if I came across like that.

      And while you're right - someone's contemplating suicide, and a lot of people are going to go "meh" and shrug or yell "jump you bastard". That's how we humans are.

      Sometimes a plea to their future possibilities (like children) are a good way to sway the argument in favour of living. But if they're involuntarily sterile, want kids but aren't allowed to adopt for whatever reasons (money, sexuality, health issues etc.), talking about kids is likely to be a bad direction to go at it.

      Talk about how they'll miss out on the beauty of sunrises and sunsets, and you're going to piss off someone who's blind. Not hearing symphonies and you'll piss off the deaf people.

      Without knowing the person, we cannot really counsel them properly. I imagine that the biggest nightmare for someone like the original poster is pain. Pain makes us do all kinds of really irrational things. If not that, then it's probably the nightmare of having to live every single day, not knowing if your next breath will come easily, gasping or at all. Every single breath being quite literally a life or death struggle. It is to all of us - but we don't know what it feels like to face it constantly.

      Often when I'm in my dark places (which happens quite often), someone talking to me about how things can be better will push me further down into the depression. Oh, sure, life can be oh so good. Why not just dangle a bottle of 25-year-old scotch in front of a recovering alcoholic? A huge bag of narcotics in front of a recovering addict?

      Spoiler
      Ever seen The Gift? In it, Giovanni Ribisi's says: "If I look into a blue diamond, and I think a negative thought, am I gonna die?" and keeps talking about that blue diamond, and even what appears to be the person closest and most intimate with him thinks that blue diamond is a happy place. Except it's not. That's a tattoo his dad has just below the belly button.

      That's just mental stress. That can be worked out in therapy. Lots and lots of therapy. But now imagine him standing on the top of a building, contemplating jumping off, and someone tries to talk him down, talking about all the beautiful things in the world and mentions the beauty of blue diamonds, and him getting all his memories of the abuse back at that particular point in time?

      Mental stress is bad enough as it is. But here we're talking about someone who has a disease, whose primary symptoms are pain, and without even looking at the charts, a trained medical professional sends him/her away in tears, because obviously he's a drug addict looking to score.

      Not only does he have chronic pain, difficulties breathing to the point of being bedridden for half a year at a time, I'm assuming living in the US so bills are going to be piling up, probably unable to do any kind of regular work (you try working with 20+ bowel movements a day), and now the people who are supposed to help him, supposed to turn his life around from a daily scary as hell nightmare into a manageable bad dream, are calling him a big, fat liar who, I suspect, they could probably have arrested for trying to scam drugs from a doctor.

      If I were in the shoes of the original poster, a post talking about how sweet the future could be wouldn't make me go "yes, you're right, I should keep on living and hope for the one in a trillion chance that it'll be alright". If anything it'd push me closer to suicide, because it'd be reminding me of all the things I can't hope to achieve. It'd make me realise that even if I would be able to father children, I wouldn't want to - why would I put any child through the nightmare of watching me going through that kind of nightmare?

      Will there be a cure or even something that'll turn if from a daily living nightmare into something that makes it c

    28. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My little sister had her large intestine removed due to Chrons disease. It didn't help immediately due to complications like infections, etc. But she's doing much better now. She used to get very frequent blood transfusions, and she was frequently spending long periods of time in the hospital. She was 10 when it started and now she's 16.
      Just don't give up hope if everything isn't great after your surgery, it may take some time.

    29. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Zerth · · Score: 1

      You could instead take a trip to someplace that it is endemic and stomp around barefoot.

      I read a story about a guy that did that, then re-infected himself with a sandbox device. Since the eggs only hatch after exiting the body, it makes a self-limiting treatment as long as you work up to the effective dose and don't "OD" the first time around and take some iron supplements.

      http://www.asthmahookworm.com/

      If hanging around 3rd world latrines isn't your thing, maybe you could get the first go-around of the treatment, then "make your own".

    30. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, $50k-100k, my Specialist said it costs the NHS in the UK £17,000, (that's about $27,000). Maybe the NHS gets a better deal buying in bulk? *shrugs*

      But yes it really kicked my Crohns into touch and so far been flare free for near 3 years and put on weight! :)

    31. Re:My heart goes out to him... by selven · · Score: 1

      I would recommend not having children. If you have it and refuse to spread the genes, you're accelerating the disease's eventual extinction.

    32. Re:My heart goes out to him... by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      The demonization of opioids and the stigmas attached to them make it extremely difficult for one to seek adequate pain management. This is even more troubling because when one is in pain, it is already difficult to muster up the strength to perform basic daily tasks, let alone go through the process of interviewing doctors and advocating for yourself to find someone who will treat you properly. It seems that O'Bannon was well acquainted with this, based on the fact that, according to the article, he was working on a screenplay called "The Pain Clinic".

      There was an article in the New York Times magazine about this -- link here. If you have personal experience, maybe you're already familiar with it; I only mention it because I read it recently and thought it raised really important and interesting issues. Maybe it could be useful for people who are struggling with this problem.

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    33. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://needhealthcare.com/how-to-cure-crohns-disease/

    34. Re:My heart goes out to him... by ushering05401 · · Score: 1

      Immunosuppressants are dangerous. I am not eligible for Remicade because I exhibited a negative reaction to a related immunosuppressant. It put me in the hospital for a week of round the clock infusions of Dilaudid to manage the pain. Dilaudid is a trade name for the compound that was introduced to replace Heroin in clinical settings.

      It was a nightmare come to life. I had IV's coming out of all sorts of places, and my left arm alone was drilled top to bottom, front and back with different bore sizes. I was constantly going in and out of awareness so that I couldn't tell what was really happening and what was in my head. Once you get knocked down like that the only thing to do is start pumping the body with good stuff and hope it comes around.

      I hate steroids and the way they make me feel erratic, but the way you die if you react negatively to immunosuppressants is horrific. I experienced the doorstep, I can't imagine what would have happened if I had a full infusion of Remicade in me. Make sure you do your own research before considering going on this class of drugs.

      My doctor told me at the time that around 4% of people exhibit significant reactions, but less than 2% react as seriously as I did. Some of those people die. This happened around 2002, there may be newer treatments to combat negative reactions or better screening techniques for candidates - I was told that those things were being researched. Anyhow, this needed to be mentioned for those thinking of looking at new treatments.

      All the best to O'Bannon's survivors. Living in support of a crohnsie is an admirable thing.

    35. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Bourdain · · Score: 1

      I'd imagine you've researched this to the hilt though have you considered some alternative strategies such as:

      -low dose naltrexone (ideally of high quality ordered from a compounder such as irmat pharmacy)
      -helminthic therapy (e.g. http://www.wormtherapy.com/products.html)
      -alternating courses of elemental diets (e.g. vivonex), nonabsorbable antibiotics (e.g. xifaxan), strong probiotics (e.g. vsl3)
      (potentially starting/coinciding any of these with a significant dose of prednisone w/taper)

    36. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All I can tell you is that I have personally seen what suicide does to a family and there is no death that does more damage to a family. I have had friends and family members die suddenly because of disease, accidents, or even be murdered. But as far as psychological damage to a family, I have seen nothing worse than when my father in law jumped off a bridge. There is no way to rationalize it as an freak occurrence or as God's will. If you commit suicide, your family will have nothing but self blame.

    37. Re:My heart goes out to him... by 1arkhaine · · Score: 1

      I'm really sorry to hear that.

      My sweetheart was in a car accident on the 29th of November, but she survived. It's incredibly amazing how quick it all is, and how easy it is to lose someone. The chances of her dying were huge, but she didn't - but she could have. And, just like your brother and father, her life would have been 'just stepped out on', which is an incredibly difficult thing to imagine.

      I'm sorry for your loss.

    38. Re:My heart goes out to him... by vorpal22 · · Score: 1

      Oi... I'm sorry to hear you had such a wildly negative reaction to an immunosuppressant, and glad to hear that you survived. Messing with the immune system is scary enough in theory, and even more so in practice. I was so terrified for my first Remicade infusion that it took me a couple of milligrams of Xanax and some oxycodone just to be able to walk into the hospital without freezing up with a horrible panic attack. My friend, who began Remicade two days after me, had a horrible reaction that necessitated emergency care. Thank goodness I was treated before her, or I most certainly would have canceled my Remicade infusion after hearing what happened to her.

    39. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Barny · · Score: 1

      Holy shit, I am betting my Aussie drug rebate thingy won't apply to something that pricey :/

      Might just bug the specialist about getting off the steroid, maybe try to up the dose of the immune sup, I seem to only be getting the "photo sensitivity" side effect so far from that, and a good pair of sun glasses and long sleeved shirts solves that minor problem (yeah, was on weekly blood tests for 12mths when he first started me on it, so the insides are dealing well with it).

      Heres hoping some of the new research into this disease will find something more patient friendly (the work with some types of parasites seems promising).

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      /me sighs
    40. Re:My heart goes out to him... by vorpal22 · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Having Crohn's Disease, I can't imagine being responsible for making another person suffer through this nightmare hell. I would never, ever have biological children and I do feel that Crohnsies that do are acting irresponsibly. I don't disrespect them for it, but I can't help but feel that it's too much of a risk.

      If I ever decide to have kids, it'll be via adoption.

    41. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Blittzed · · Score: 1
      Actually it will :)

      I am an Australian, suffer from Chrohns, and I have been on Humira for the past 14 months, and have almost no symptoms now: 18 months ago I was in hospital facing major surgery. You have to jump through a few hoops to get it (google for CDAI), but Medicare will pay for it. It costs the government $1800 a month, but I pay more than that in tax, and if I didn't get this drug, I wouldn't be working (or paying tax), which would cost the govt more in the long run.

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      "They looked deep into my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined"
    42. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Barny · · Score: 1

      Well, might consider it, I can still work thankfully.

      Was told by the specialist that except for the fact it had hit a part of my body with nerve endings, it was actually mild enough that we would be ignoring it.

      Will definitely talk to him about this if he still won't consider getting me off the steroid.

      Thanks for all comments :)

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      ...
      /me sighs
    43. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a Crohn's sufferer in Scotland, I also urge anyone who knows anyone with any sort of auto-immune disease, including Crohn's and Ulcerative Colitis, Multiple Sclerosis and even conditions like autism, HIV/AIDs and fertility problems to read up on Low Dose Naltrexone and seriously consider it as a treatment option, particularly if you are recently diagnosed and your condition hasn't progressed too far so far. LDN is no cure, but it has been shown to be very effective in stopping immune disease progression and inducing remission and it has eliminated 99% of my Crohn's symptoms with no side effects, unlike the more commonly used drugs. LDN's story is of particular relevance to many slashdotters - It's just a smaller dose of Naltrexone a drug that has been out of patent as long as the lower dose effect on the immune system has been known of. So, although LDN is cheap, there is nowhere near enough robust clinical trial data on it since the pharma companies have no profit motive to do the work.

      Sounds too good to be true? Bear in mind the huge range of conditions that steroids like prednisone works on and you can see how a drug like LDN could work on the immune system to assist with these illnesses.

      Check out http://lowdosenaltrexone.org and the work of Drs Ian Zagon and Jill Smith at Penn State U for some science on this. In quick summary, LDN blocks opiate receptors in the brain which causes more endorphins to be produced after the blockade ends and this causes a tendency to equilibirum between the Th1 and Th2 immune helper cells, re-balancing the immune system and preventing the over-abundance of Th1 cells that cause inflammation.

      In Scotland the patient lead activist group, LDN Now of which I am member (http://ldnnow.com) has petitioned the Scottish Parliament to make LDN more widely available on the NHS - video of the first meeting, which was very successful is on youtube - http://bit.ly/SPLDNvideo
      And at a UK level, a petition for NHS LDN trials reached over 13,000 signatures in a year, 4th in the Health category and was handed in to 10 Downing Street by Dr Chris Steele MBE (UK TV celebrity doctor).

    44. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well.. Picture the scenario where euthanasia has been legalized and hospitals incorporate it as a choice. You kinda open the door for quite allot of very hard ethical dilemmas. Where do you set the limit? Say e.g. the hospital is pressed for space. They lean on their doctors to suggest Euthanasia to the elderly to "free up room" for young patients. Or the elderly might feel pressed to choose Euthanasia for that same reason; they feel old and do not want to take up space for someone that they feel would have more need for it. Or a ton of other reasons. Your imagination is the roof here. Death is final. There is no recovery for that. One could argue that one would have strict regulations on Euthanasia. I would counter that argument with a picture of a dam with a leak. The dam is the principle that life is sacred, and cant be taken away by any man. One little leak isn't that dangerous, but one can intuitively understand by that picture the concept of incremental-ism. The hole will, given time, grow larger. So if we legalize euthanasia we loose 100 % of the principle and we open up the possibility for people needlessly getting killed or killed against their will.
      So I would argue that the basis for euthanasia is flawed if one goes into the potential consequences, and it is feelings rather than logic that press the will to stand for euthanasia as an legal option.

      My deepest sympathies goes to those that suffer. I can not really understand the situation, and I might change my stand if I did. But I hope I wouldn't because I think now that the stand would be changed my emotions and not my rational side.

      I feel it's a bit eery to think of the notion that doctors could get the power to kill you intentionally. I would argue that they are in the business of giving, extending and soothing life. Not ending it.
      You can argue the point of abortion, but abortion is in a grey zone of what life is and it is literally directed connected to another life, hence I would label it to another category.
      Capital punishment I would argue is just wrong. It's blind revenge. I would say that capital punishment hardens a society. Makes one less emphatic, more brutal. What gives someone the right to take another mans life?

      Euthanasia I would say is an ill-conceived gest that have a very high probability to have grave consequences given time with the phenomena incremental-ism. Ergo, it sounds very harsh, but the truth as I would like do define it, when it comes to euthanasia, is that nature must be allowed to run uninterrupted in it's course with the consequence that some must unfortunately endure the natural occurred suffering so that others might live.

    45. Re:My heart goes out to him... by vorpal22 · · Score: 1

      I was interested in LDN myself, but of course (and it bears mentioning), if you're on opiates, you cannot do LDN without first getting off of them.

      Glad to hear you've had success with LDN! I know maybe three people who have tried it. One person had mixed results, and I'm not sure about the other two, as I haven't spoken to them in awhile. I believe that one of them was having some initial promising reduction in symptoms, though.

    46. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Joelfabulous · · Score: 1

      I never really knew much about Crohn's disease until your posts in this thread. Just never encountered it before, I guess.

      I'll look into donating a bit of my student budgeted cash to the CCFC as you referenced it. I can easily forgo the occasional binge drinking session for your sake, so the relatively tiny amount I spend on beer / liquor will most appropriately go to that. It'll be easier on my stomach, for one... and perhaps a bit on my conscience, with a bit of empathy on the side.

      I can't imagine what it's like to have to go through that, but I sincerely hope your quality of life improves. Don't know if I have my email listed, but you seem like a cool fellow Canuck. Props to you for being a stronger spirit than I likely could manage.

      --
      Sometimes I wonder if I think too much.
    47. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      First, Thank You. Second I'm glad to hear you didn't have a tragedy. It's hard, I've spent most of my life, and all of my brothers 35+ years, living in the same house or apartment or at least town as my brother and despite all the stupid sibling fighting and crap early on we were best friends.
            We've been sharing this apartment about 18 months and would typically chat and hang out for an hour or so at the end of the night. Now I find it hard to get to sleep.
            Treasure what you have while you have it.
      I hope she didn't suffer anything permanent (except perchance a greater awareness of the preciousness of each moment).
            Take care.

      Mycroft

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    48. Re:My heart goes out to him... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Alien is easily one of the best Sci-Fi movies of all time if not the best. Like Yorkie, it's not for girls! (except bad-ass girls)

      Did you not notice that the main character is a "girl"?

      --
      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    49. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've found myself that dosage plays a bit part and some people can find their symptoms get worse intially. So persistence and some thorough testing of different doses is needed. In my UK clinic the protocol is to fo 1mg for a month, then 2, then 3, then 4.5
      I found that I was worse when I got to 4.5 but working back down to 2.5 resulted in effective remission. Sadly I had to stop LDN because of a 2 month course of prednisolone - needed due to kidney damage (Interstitial Nephritis) caused by Mesalazone/pentasa/asaco side effects when I was first treated for Crohn's in 2008). But if my Crohn's symptioms do return after the pred, I will start 1mg LDN and up it to 2 and see what happens, maybe go to 2.5 if needed. Dr Ian Zagon is suggesting every 2nd day dosing is sometimes more effective now too.
      I urge anyone to try LDN, with the lack of side effects and it's relataive cheapness it's a relatively easy one to try out, especially if your symptoms have not progressed to far so far.

      http://ldnforcrohns.blogspot.com
      http://www.twitter.com/LD_Naltrexone

    50. Re:My heart goes out to him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've absolutely considered helminthic therapy, but after investigating, realized that there was no way that I could afford it: the little buggers are freakishly expensive! Given that you have to administer them repeatedly, too, it just wasn't possible for now.

      Being a graduate student has certainly been a mixed blessing in terms of my disease: I get the luxury of working from home and setting my hours depending on my health, but the low income certainly affects what treatment options are feasible for me to try.

      I looked at helminths for Rheumatoid Arthritis, but found no direct statements that it had an effect. The worm sellers may be in trouble with the FDA, and yes it is[was expensive]. I was going to Montego bay, Jamaica and walk around west of town where raw sewage discharges to pick up a few hookworms. Jamaica because of prevelance, and lower incidence of other harmful[?] parasites.
        There are probably spots in the South that still have hookworm infestations.
      Check with your local parasitologist or health department. RA, as is the case with Crohn's, MS and other auto-immune diseases seem to have low incidence in the 3rd world. Must be some reason. Hygiene Hypothesis has logic, and specifics are hard to come by. Keep looking!

  3. We'll not see his like again.

  4. Rockne S. by pipingguy · · Score: 1

    I always wondered if he was related to Rockne S. O'Bannon (apparently not, despite the same name and field of work).

    1. Re:Rockne S. by CelticWhisper · · Score: 1

      I wondered the same thing. Alien is by far my favourite sci-fi movie series, and Farscape is by far my favourite sci-fi TV series, and it would make perfect sense for the two of them to be tied together in such a way.

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  5. Will be watching Dark Star again by gzunk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I shall watch Dark Star again today, one of my favourite films, in his memory.

    1. Re:Will be watching Dark Star again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      me too : )

    2. Re:Will be watching Dark Star again by S-100 · · Score: 5, Informative

      O'Bannon not only wrote Dark Star, he plays Sgt. Pinback in the movie.

    3. Re:Will be watching Dark Star again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is pretty much my favorite film of all time. There are many which come close, but NOTHING has EVER made me laugh as hard as that damn beachball the first time I saw it. :D

      I shall watch it again later today myself.

      Thank you, Dan. I so wanted to meet you someday and thank you in person; I guess that will have to wait for when I catch up with you after the Grand Movie.

    4. Re:Will be watching Dark Star again by smchris · · Score: 1

      AKA fuel engineer Bill Froog. 30 years with Crohn's. Sucks.

    5. Re:Will be watching Dark Star again by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

      Since I heard about this yesterday, the song "Benson, Arizona" has been going through my head continuously...

      BENSON, ARIZONA

      from the film "Dark Star"

      The rays of sun shine down,
      But I see only one.
      Try to think I'm over you,
      I find I've just begun.

      The years move faster than the days.
      There's no warmth in the light.
      And how I miss those desert skies,
      Your cool touch in the night.

      Benson Arizona, blew warm wind through your hair,
      My body flies the galaxy, my heart longs to be there.
      Benson Arizona, the same stars in the sky,
      The days seemed so much kinder,
      When we watched them,
      You and I.

      Benson Arizona, blew warm wind through your hair,
      My body flies the galaxy, my heart longs to be there.
      Benson Arizona, the same stars in the sky,
      The days seemed so much kinder,
      When we watched them,
      You and I.

      Now the years pull us apart,
      I'm young and now you're old.
      But you're still in my heart
      And the memory won't go cold.

      I dream of times and spaces
      I left far behind
      Where we spent our last few days
      Benson's on my mind.

      Benson Arizona, blew warm wind through your hair,
      My body flies the galaxy, my heart longs to be there.
      Benson Arizona, the same stars in the sky,
      The days seemed so much kinder,
      When we watched them,
      You and I.

      (This following verse is used as the ending of the film before the 1983 director's cut.)

      Benson Arizona, blew warm wind through your hair,
      My body flies the galaxy, my heart longs to be there.
      Benson Arizona, the same stars in the sky,
      The days seem so much kinder,
      When we watched them,
      You and I.

      (The above verse and the and following three are used as the ending for the 1983 diector's cut.)

      Now the years pull us apart,
      I'm young and now you're old.
      But you're still in my heart
      And the memory won't go cold.

      I dream of times and spaces
      I left far behind
      Where we spent our last few days
      Benson's on my mind.

      Benson Arizona, blew warm wind through your hair,
      My body flies the galaxies, my heart longs to be there.
      Benson Arizona, the same stars in the sky,
      The days seemed so much kinder,
      When we watched them,
      You and I.

    6. Re:Will be watching Dark Star again by DynaSoar · · Score: 4, Informative

      O'Bannon not only wrote Dark Star, he plays Sgt. Pinback in the movie.

      Co-wrote. With John Carpenter.

      O'Bannon also was film editor. And production designer. And supervisor of visual special effects, for which he got a first place award in 1975 from the forerunner of the Saturn Awards.

      Looks like a lot of work for one person, and perhaps it was. But keep in mind this was two guys working on a 45 minute student project up until someone paid them US$60k to expand it out to feature length. And as far as I can tell (and I'm another who watches this movie yearly or so) the difference between the original feature length and the much later 'dirctor's cut' is Doolittle's little musical bottle recital.

      The focus of the student version was on the 'beach ball' alien sequence, which was comedic. Changing the theme of it to horror for the feature length without losing the impact showed a great deal of talent in both writers. A fellow USC grad's student film helped launch is career also, the final escape sequence of George Lucas's THX 1138. And just to help differentiate between success and academic success, Stephen Spielberg was also a USC grad school student, but didn't finish there due to a C average. (In fact he didn't finish until 2002 at California State University, Long Beach, having received an honorary degree from USC in 1994 and becoming a trustee there in 1996).

      Just guessing based on the preponderance of SF work in O'Bannon's IMDB entry, I suspect he rather than Carpenter was the one who adapted Ray Bradbury's short story Kaleidoscope from The Illustrated Man as the ending sequence, with one astronaut carried off by some semi-mystical asteroids, the other ending in a firey re-entry. That adaptation is referenced in the Dark Star Wikipedia entry. Not mentioned anywhere but of too great similarity to ignore are Bomb 20's final act, having determined that he is alone in the universe to exclaim "Let there be light" (vs. Asimov's "The Last Question") and the post-mortem consciousness of the commander afforded by his cryogenic preservation (vs. Larry Niven's "Wait It Out"). I also used to think Talby's obsession with staying in the observation chair wasn't a phobia having to do with the commander's death, but was taken from another story which included mental changes verging on madness if one watched too much empty space, but I can't recall which one, and there's an awful lot of those.

      BTW, Benson Arizona MP3 and lyrics are available at SF author Robert Sawyer's web site.

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      "I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." -- Bishop 341-B
    7. Re:Will be watching Dark Star again by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

      His work was awesome and it will be a shame that he's gone. I've just watched Alien the other night.

      Unfortunately I watched the rest of the Quadrilogy, including resurrection for the first time. I think my brain melted half way through that one.

    8. Re:Will be watching Dark Star again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't believe Spielberg was ever admitted to USC.

    9. Re:Will be watching Dark Star again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good god, that guy was talented. The way he delivered his lines as Pinback had me rolling. Like when he recounted how he wanted to be an astronaut, but you had to get above 700-something on a standardized test to get past the first round, and he scored "58". Something about the way he delivered that shockingly low number just had me howling with laughter. RIP, dude.

    10. Re:Will be watching Dark Star again by sa1lnr · · Score: 1

      "The focus of the student version was on the 'beach ball' alien sequence, which was comedic"

      I'm almost sure I remember it being one of these with some kind of webbed feet stuck on the bottom.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_hopper

      I'm most definitely sure that somebody will correct me if I'm wrong. :)

    11. Re:Will be watching Dark Star again by DynaSoar · · Score: 1

      I don't believe Spielberg was ever admitted to USC.

      Quite right, I sit reclined and slouching, corrected. He applied three times and it was a C average that prevented his acceptance, not his continuance. That makes the honorary a bit frivolous.

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  6. Re:Stephen King dies also... by selven · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Ok, that one post of news years in advance makes up for all the two days late news on Slashdot, right?

  7. Re:Stephen King dies also... by calzakk · · Score: 1, Insightful

    New is appearing that Stephen King has passed away also.

    Come on, what's the point in posting something like this? You're just wasting our time making us read this crap. I'm wasting my time replying. And others will waste their time reading my reply. And so on...

  8. Merchandising by EmagGeek · · Score: 0

    Alien Memorial Collection Box Set in 5.... 4.... 3.... 2....

    two months later..

    Alien Memorial Collection Box Set - Director's Cut

    two months later..

    Alien Memorial Collection Box Set - Deluxe Edition with Bonus DVD!

    two months later..

    Alien - The Original Films Special Collectors Edition Deluxe Super Tribute

    two months later..

    Black hole created by writer spinning in grave consumes the known universe

    1. Re:Merchandising by rsmoody · · Score: 1

      You forgot all above iterations plus the blu-ray versions.

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    2. Re:Merchandising by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1, Informative

      I hope you washed you hands afterwards.

  9. He mostly wrote scripts by DrugCheese · · Score: 5, Funny

    .. mostly ..

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    1. Re:He mostly wrote scripts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Characters != Screenplay

    2. Re:He mostly wrote scripts by Kingrames · · Score: 1

      Fine, I'll say it.

      Game over, man, game over.

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    3. Re:He mostly wrote scripts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aliens. Same problem as the quote you're replying to - that's not O'Bannon's screenplay.

  10. Alien Influence by mindbrane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I just did a rewatch of Alien last week. It's one of those movies I revisit once every year or so, like Bladerunner. Bladerunner was said even by W. Gibson to be widely influential across a swath of cultural fields, but I think the artwork in Alien to have had a more lasting cultural wide influence. The artwork in Alien underlies and embues the artwork of almost every FPS game with a science fiction setting. The narrow, steam filled, water dripping innards of a space ship's mechanical works and bays hiding the alien threat was done best in Alien.

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    1. Re:Alien Influence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You understand that Dan O'Bannon wrote the movie, right? He was the writer, not the art director. This article is about Dan O'Bannon, not your thoughts about the lasting appeal of the art direction in Alien.

    2. Re:Alien Influence by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      The artwork in Alien underlies and embues the artwork of almost every FPS game with a science fiction setting. The narrow, steam filled, water dripping innards of a space ship's mechanical works and bays hiding the alien threat was done best in Alien.

      Indeed, the AvP series of games uses that artwork almost exclusively. It's like he was prescient.

    3. Re:Alien Influence by Dexter+Herbivore · · Score: 1

      Say thankyou to HR Giger for that magnificent artwork.

    4. Re:Alien Influence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It works the other way, too. Alien shows clear signs of influence by the Ixtl sequence in A.E. Van Vogt's classic "Voyage of the Space Beagle." A book that also presaged Star Trek -- being an episodic novel about a crew of humans on board an exploratory vessel, travelling out into the stars for the first time and facing strange alien worlds and civilizations.

        It also has the two greatest Bug-Eyed-Monsters in SF history, the aforementioned Ixtl, and the panther-like Coeurl.
        Highly recommended. Van Vogt was one of the best SF writers of his era, at least until he got involved with Scientology in the 60's, when his writing turned to utter crap thanks to e-brainwashing.

        - mantar

    5. Re:Alien Influence by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      Sounds like you appreciate the work of one Sir Ridley Scott more than Dan O'Bannon.

    6. Re:Alien Influence by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I just did a rewatch of Alien last week

      Translation into English: I watched Alien again last week.

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  11. Game over man... by bmecoli · · Score: 2

    Game over...

  12. not "just" a screenwriter by owlnation · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The work he did on Alien is amazing. I think it remains the best-written screenplay I've ever seen. Not so much about the story, but the way in which it is written.

    If anyone out there is interested in writing for the screen, find a copy of Alien and study it. It's a minimalist masterpiece, only the absolutely necessary words are there to describe scenes. That sounds simple and obvious, but it's really very rare indeed. Most screenwriters tend to add too much description and direction.

  13. Not just scripts by Tapewolf · · Score: 1

    Damn, that's a great shame. Wasn't he also responsible for the special effects in Dark Star and parts of Star Wars?

    1. Re:Not just scripts by julesh · · Score: 1

      Wasn't he also responsible for the special effects in Dark Star and parts of Star Wars?

      Yes. AIUI, he did all the effects for Dark Star, and designed the computer graphic sequences for Star Wars.

  14. NACC in the UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    For those in the UK, there is The National Association for Colitis and Crohn's (NACC) the site looks a bit 90s but it is a registered charity in the UK

  15. Return of the Living Dead = Best B Movie EVER by Vu1turEMaN · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've got alot of love for Return of the Living Dead. If you read the IMDB for it, it actually gets good ratings, despite being campy.

    First Movie with Running Zombies? Check

    Tarman? Check

    Running around naked in a cemetary? Check

    BBBRRRRAAAAAAIIIINNNNSSSSS and zombies that eat them? Check

    A movie where every line is a memorable quote? Check

    Character names like Trash, Scuz and Suicide? Check

    Go BUY it from FYE, Amazon, or KMart now. It's more funny than it is scary, but that doesn't detract from it still being a good movie. Alot of zombie movie lovers keep a place in their heart for this movie, even though it isn't a true George Romero movie.

    1. Re:Return of the Living Dead = Best B Movie EVER by vaporland · · Score: 1

      I second this motion. I saw it at the movies and it was an absolute scream. Great soundtrack, great character actors (James Karen, Clu Gulager, Don Calfa) hilarious dialogue ("Send... more... paramedics.", "It hurts... to be dead."), perfect ending. Reagan was president and we were sure he was going to start WWIII...

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    2. Re:Return of the Living Dead = Best B Movie EVER by Vu1turEMaN · · Score: 1

      Well luckily we had nixon and ping pong :)

    3. Re:Return of the Living Dead = Best B Movie EVER by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      I actually saw it in a theater in Louisville. The ending got a huge round of applause (and laughs).

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    4. Re:Return of the Living Dead = Best B Movie EVER by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      It's like my grandpa said on his deathbed. "Kid," he said. "Any movie with either Clu Gulager or M. Emmet Walsh in it has *GOT* to be at least halfway decent."

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    5. Re:Return of the Living Dead = Best B Movie EVER by vaporland · · Score: 1

      I hope you used a headshot to keep Granddad from becoming a zombie like the rest of 'em...

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  16. Was it from chest pains? by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someone had to ask it.

  17. Credit where due by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Alien screenplay was based on O'Bannon's and Ronald Shusett's story.

  18. Does anyone know.. by drewsup · · Score: 1

    Is he related to Rockne S. O'Bannon of Farscape fame??? Can't find any links between them online.

  19. I had Christmas dinner at his house once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A good friend did a Christmas dinner with O'Bannon and his wife. They invited a few friends to join them. James Karen from Return of the Living Dead was there. Sadly my friend died a year or two later from a drunk driver so I never saw O'Bannon again. He was quiet and kept to himself. He seemed to like having the people around but he kept disappearing into the kitchen while everyone else sat around and talked. I still remember a story my friend told me back in the late 70s. He said Dan was around when they put the actor in the Alien suit the first time. Geiger hadn't built a rubber suit before and Dan said he bet it would rip in three steps. He later admitted he was wrong, it ripped in two steps. My friend used to tell me about the lawsuit Dan had with 20th over alien. They were claiming Alien lost money. He finally won and received a settlement but it was better than ten years later. I think he largely retired after that. Probably due to health. I tried back in the 80s to get Vestron, long dead company, to produce his script "They Bite". A fun little script and a favorite among animators. Ask any old time animation fan about the Collie Beetles. I got Vestron in touch with O'Bannon but I think they had a string of flops by then and they weren't willing to risk the money on a big stop motion film. The script never did get produced although I take it he retitled it "Omnivore" years ago. I'm not sure how many unproduced scripts he had but that one dated to the late 70s.

    I just realized another O'Bannon story. I can actually tell this one now. Anyone hear of Dead and Buried? O'Bannon's name was on it with Ron Shussett for screenplay. Well the first time O'Bannon heard about it was when he opened a newspaper and saw the ad for the film with his name on it. He calls up Ron saying, Ron what's up with this Dead and Buried film? Ron says I'll give you 20 grand, I can't remember the actual amount, if you don't say anything. Dan just says "Okay" and that was the last they said of it. Ron had been adding Dan's name to scripts to give them more weight but it was the first one he sold. Both my friend and Dan are gone now so it's safe to tell. Just a little Hollywood backstory.

    1. Re:I had Christmas dinner at his house once by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Wow, that was so boring it had to be true.

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  20. Getting enough Vitamin D? by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

    Here are science papers on Vitamin D and Inflammatory Bowel Disease:
    http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/science/research/vitamin-d-and-inflammatory-bowel-disease.shtml

    Example:
        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19269107
    """
    The peculiar geographic distribution of inflammatory bowel disease is a puzzle for researchers. A low vitamin D status has now been linked to several Th1-mediated autoimmune diseases, including multiple sclerosis, type 1 diabetes and rheumatoid arthritis, with the strongest evidence for the vitamin's protective role in multiple sclerosis. Sunlight and vitamin D may be potent immunomodulatory agents by down-regulating Th1-driven immune responses and inducing the synthesis of antimicrobial peptides considered as natural antibiotics of the immune system. Similarly to multiple sclerosis, we propose in CD the so-called north-south gradient may be partly explained by variations in the degree of sun exposure, with vitamin D being a "seasonal stimulus". These observations may yield a better understanding of the pathophysiology of Crohn's disease and pave the way for developing new therapeutic approaches for an incurable disease. Whether a low vitamin D status is associated with an increased risk of Crohn's disease in the general population and whether vitamin D and heliotherapy may be effective in treating Crohn's disease will require additional investigations.
    """

    How to get adequate vitamin D:
        http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/treatment.shtml

    You could try a blood test for vitamin D right now as recommended there to see if you are deficient in vitamin D, and, if you are seriously deficient, you might talk with your doctors about trying vitamin D3 supplements first (or maybe even an injection of a megadose by a doctor in your situation) before trying surgery (or maybe a UV-B lamp if you can't absorb vitamin D supplements well right now). Have you noticed any correlation with the seasons? Is it a little better in summer? A little worse in winter?

    Do you avoid the sun? I would think it would be common in writer types like Dan O'Bannon, or some other media people who work indoors a lot. Vitamin D deficiency is at epidemic levels across the USA and may be linked to a host of issues from cancer through autism to depression. Even if adequate vitamin D did not help with Crohn's, it might at least help with other issues that stem from it.

    Obviously, there may be other factors as well (other vitamins -- vitamin A relates to membrane health but every one might be an issue, or other environmental issues). Best of luck finding something that works for you, and then afterwards in rebuilding strong roots in your life whatever they may be, relationships, hobbies, philosophies, laughter, helping others, enjoying time in nature, and so on, to help you weather the storms of life and Crohn's disease.

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    1. Re:Getting enough Vitamin D? by vorpal22 · · Score: 1

      I'm going to read your post in more detail in a moment (and thank you for taking the time and effort to put all of that information together for me - it's very much appreciated), but having skimmed it, I just wanted to point out that some researchers now are actually hypothesizing that Crohn's may be caused or exacerbated by an excess of Vitamin D, or an inability to eliminate it, or something along those lines (I can't recall exactly).

      In any case, my Crohn's is almost always much worse in the summer, usually by several orders of magnitude, and it tapers in the winter. Having spoken to many other Crohnsies, this is not at all uncommon, either. Seasons definitely seem to affect it on some level.

    2. Re:Getting enough Vitamin D? by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

      Dr. John Cannell, MD, who runs the Vitamin D web site, talks about how having just a little vitamin D can allow you immune system to get going, but you need enough vitamin D for your immune system to be able to shut itself down properly. For example:
      http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/h1n1-flu-and-vitamin-d.shtml
      "In the macrophage, the presence of vitamin D also appears to suppress the pro-inflammatory cytokines. Thus, vitamin D appears to both enhance the local capacity of the epithelium to produce endogenous antibiotics and at the same time dampen certain destructive arms of the immune response, especially those responsible for the signs and symptoms of acute inflammation, such as the cytokine storms operative when influenza kills quickly."

      He hypothesizes, that in the great Spanish Flu pandemic around WWII, given troops in the troop ships tended to die of it, but not the sailors on the ships, that it might also have been a case where adults had enough vitamin D to get an immune response going, but not enough to shut it down.

      It is possible you are so deficient that getting just a little in the summer leads to this effect? So, would there be a transition phase where things mike get worse until they get better with more vitamin D? Or would things just get worse? Something to think through with your doctors, and referring to the scientific literature linked on that site.

      You would need a blood test for 25(OH)D as mentioned here to begin to figure that out, to see if your levels in the summer were in the range he recommends here (50-80 ng/mL) or low.
      http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/treatment.shtml

      The other obvious hypothesis might be that adequate vitamin D in the summer is causing your immune system to function normally, but it is hyper-agressive for some reason. This may be connected to why some Crohn's researchers might say that -- basically if you disable a person's immune system, it might reduce the problem? So, you may well be right about Crohn's researchers in general, I don't know.

      There is one person (I forget his name, an electrical engineer?) who has treatments for issues involving reducing people's vitamin D level to zero in a variety of ways using vitamin D antagonists and inhibitors, and then using lots of some antibiotics or something. Dr. John Cannell comments negatively on that person's work on his site. I can wonder if that is who you are referring to, and it if might be this issue, that too little may create some problems? Normally, human beings who live outdoors in the sun would always have plenty of vitamin D in their system.

      More scientific studies on Vitamin D and autoimmune illness:
      http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/researchAutoimmune.shtml

      So, there could well be various sets of issues on a path back to health. The typical human body has, until the last century, never spend that much time indoors year round, so it is not adapted for that. For example, Dr. Cannell suggests people who are vitamin D deficient tend to sunburn more easily -- it is just not normal for the human body to be vitamin D deficient.

      Also, historically, skin color has reflected latitude, and a balance of minimizing the risk of skin cancer with dark skin vs. maximizing vitamin D production in extreme latitudes with light skin. Now that everyone moves around so much, it's especially important for people with darker skins to check their vitamin D level and supplement as needed if they live far North or South from the equator -- so a dark skinned urban professional linking someplace like Maine with indoor hobbies and not eating much fish might be most at risk of vitamin D deficiency. If you have an indoor job, indoor hobbies, or darker skin, you would be more at risk of this issue.

      Dr. Cannell talks about vita

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    3. Re:Getting enough Vitamin D? by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

      BTW, a post from someone else on a Crohn's forum on vitamin D:
          http://www.crohnsforum.com/showthread.php?t=4951
      """
      This video talks about the importance of vitamin D (which is best absorbed by humans from sunlight) for health.
      http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/16/my-one-hour-vitamin-d-lecture-to-clear-up-all-your-confusion-on-this-vital-nutrient.aspx
      The video mentions how it is thought that a vitamin D deficiency is thought to lead to more autoimmune diseases (like Inflammatory Bowel Disease). They showed how more northern climates (which have colder climates/less sun) often have greater occurences of things like colon cancer and MS than southern climates. Vitamin D was also explained to be anti-inflammatory.
          This was something new to me. It makes some sense to me as it seems that Canada has one of the world's highest rates of IBD. It may have a higher rate than the US due to a colder climate and less sunlight, even though the diets are fairly similar.
          While vitamin D needs differs, the video said that we should all be trying to get something like 5,000 IUs a day, but some people may need double that or more. The daily recommended intake though is currently like 400 IUs. It recommends sunlight as the best source of this (and says that as long as exposure is not excessive, it is safe for you) or that if you take a vitamin make sure you are taking it in the form of D3 (cholecalciferol). D2 is another form that is synthetic and an inferior form.
          Has anyone else heard anything about this before?
      """

      I have not watched the video. That post is just a top match on a Google search on "vitamin+D"+Crohn's.

      Posts in that thread then link to:
          "Vitamin D deficiency tied to increased IBD activity, reduced quality of life"
          http://ccfa.org/reuters/vitaminD
      "Vitamin D deficiency is common in patients with IBD (Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis), but whether vitamin D deficiency parallels disease activity or adversely impacts quality of life is not known, Dr. Alex Ulitsky and colleagues at the Medical College of Wisconsin in Milwaukee point out in a meeting abstract."

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    4. Re:Getting enough Vitamin D? by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

      One other related item in the news today, but not on Vitamin D:
          http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-celiac21-2009dec21,0,5395819.story
      """
      Researchers at the Brisbane Princess Alexandra Hospital in Queensland, Australia, tested the effects of hookworm inoculation on 20 patients with celiac disease to see if it would blunt the immune response to gluten. In addition to hoping to provide relief for celiac patients, the researchers want to learn if this could be an effective therapy for inflammatory bowel disease and Crohn's disease.
          The results have not been published, but when the Phase II trial was over and the patients were offered a medication that would kill the parasites, they all opted to keep their hookworms.
      """

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  21. Alien plagiarist Dan O'Bannon Dead at 63 by heptapod · · Score: 0, Troll

    What? The guy who ripped off A.E. van Vogt's Voyage of the Space Beagle is dead?
    Man, I'm glad that the studio settled out of court making them technically correct to dismiss the charges but who settles out of court when they are innocent in the first place?

    1. Re:Alien plagiarist Dan O'Bannon Dead at 63 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? The guy who ripped off A.E. van Vogt's

      Who?

      Voyage of the Space Beagle

      Never heard of it. Sorry.

      Man, I'm glad that the studio settled out of court making them technically correct to dismiss the charges but who settles out of court when they are innocent in the first place?

      Sorry Comic Book Guy, but you're the only one in this room who cares. If O'Bannon really was a plagiarist, then I commend him for taking whatever good ideas were in "Space Beetle" and making them into something interesting... for the rest of us who don't live in basements and pee in bottles.

      ^_^

    2. Re:Alien plagiarist Dan O'Bannon Dead at 63 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enjoy sucking James Cameron's cock, faggot.

    3. Re:Alien plagiarist Dan O'Bannon Dead at 63 by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Every time a big sci-fi movie comes out, Harlan Ellison and a hundred other sci-fi hack writers come out of the woodwork claiming "Hey this has a spaceship with a crew in it, and MY story had a spaceship with a crew in it...so you've obviously ripped me off!" and proceeds to sue. And often, the studio just settles with said hacks for $20 in gift certificates--just to avoid the hassle of the lawsuit. Harlan Ellison in particular has turned this into an artform--making way more from lawsuits (and threats of lawsuits) than he ever did from his actual shitty writing.

      And if you think that "Voyage of the Space Beagle" is the first sci-fi novel to feature ANYTHING seen in Alien, you don't know jack-shit about science fiction or its history.

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  22. Colectomy by AlpineR · · Score: 1

    What part of your intestines is malfunctioning? A person can lead a nearly normal life without a colon (large intestines). They just have to go to the bathroom in a special way. But that's better than being tethered to a bathroom by a tantrum-throwing colon. I suspect a person can also lose a big chunk of small intestine before they're any worse than having that chunk misbehaving.

    I went for six months without using my colon after surgery for colon cancer. After healing it was reconnected minus eighteen inches of colon and a foot or two of small intestine (about a meter total). My digestive function is pretty normal now and I don't have any of the pain, bleeding, and unpredictable bowel movements that the tumors caused.

    So I'd be hopeful that the surgery to remove part of your intestines could lead to a big improvement in quality of life. As much as I dislike the plumbing modifications that I've had to make, it's vastly better than suffering with malfunctioning plumbing.

    1. Re:Colectomy by vorpal22 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, it's throughout my intestines: right now the problem is predominantly in the small intestine just above the terminal ileum, so I"m looking at resections (60 cm of small intestine need to be removed, and 30 cm of the colon).

      I'm glad to hear that a colectomy worked for you. I wish that my Crohn's wasn't so all over the place so that that would be an option. I'd even consider total parenteral nutrition if my doctor would go for it, but he's quite against it.

  23. Gifted Writer and Director will be missed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for all your efforts and insights Dan, you will be missed and remembered
    for your innovative and clever work.

    jr

  24. Mod parent down (-1 snide) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    who settles out of court when they are innocent in the first place?

    Innocence is no defense against infringement in cases like this (see Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music) and settlement is usually the cheaper option. With plot points even making such an accusation was an abuse of copyright -- copyright was intended to protect the expression of an idea. Obviously van Vogt never read the works that Dan O'Bannon (and later James Cameron) did tip their hats to!

  25. Re:Stephen King dies also... by abigor · · Score: 1

    This is a reference to an ancient Slashdot meme that was probably well before your time.

  26. The Long Tomorrow - scifi comic story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dan O'Bannon wrote this far future noir detective short story illustrated by Moebius. It was in Metal Hurlant and Heavy Metal magazine in the late 70s, and both William Gibson creator of 'Neuromancer', and Ridley Scott, director of 'Blade Runner', site it as a seminal influence in their works.

  27. O'Bannon was Pinback! by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 1

    "I do not like the men on this spaceship. They are uncouth and fail to appreciate my better qualities. I have something of value to contribute to this mission if they would only recognize it. Today over lunch I tried to improve morale and build a sense of camaraderie among the men by holding a humorous, round-robin discussion of the early days of the mission. My overtures were brutally rejected. These men do not want a happy ship. They are deeply sick and try to compensate by making me feel miserable. Last week was my birthday. Nobody even said "happy birthday" to me. Someday this tape will be played and then they'll feel sorry."

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    "Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell
  28. Benson Arizona by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember watching Dark Star in college at the Student Union friday films at CSULB. The song at the end always cracked me up " Benson Arizona" A few years late I was traveling down 1-10 and there she be: Benson, Arizona. I had to stop!

    One weird and convoluted story and I find myself living in "Benson, Arizona" I helped the Karaoke DJ at the local dive/country bar here to find and MP3 and we put it in the karaoke machine where I occasionally will play and sing it. It has now become a staple and is part of the rotation on Karaoke night.

    This week I will dedicate my singing this song to Dan O' Bannon and thank him and John Carpenter fro putting it in the film!
    RIP Dan!

  29. Don't miss "The Resurrected"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...directed by Dan O'Bannon.

    IMO, the best adaption of an H.P. Lovecraft story ever brought to the screen.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105242/

    R.I.P. Dan!

  30. Dan O'Bannon was more... by Le+Tmraire · · Score: 1

    ... than just a script writer. Amongst many things, he gave Moebius/Jean Giraud the idea of what later became 'The Incal.' Moebius, Giger and Dan O'Bannon were all working on the aborted Dune project of Jodorowsky.