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Firefox 3.5 Now the Most Popular Browser Worldwide

gQuigs notes a graph up at StatCounter Global Statistics, which shows that in the last few days Firefox 3.5 became the most used browser version worldwide, edging ahead of IE7. IE8 is rising fast (along with Windows 7), but over the last few months the slope of Firefox's worldwide curve has been steeper. (In the US, IE8 has always been ahead of Firefox 3.5; in Europe Firefox has led since late summer.) The submitter suggests using the time when Firefox rules the roost, globally speaking, to put the final nail in the coffin of IE6, which still has a 14% global share (5%-7% in the US and EU; China and Korea are holding up IE6's numbers).

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  1. Browser down. by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Funny

    OS next.

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    1. Re:Browser down. by TheSunborn · · Score: 5, Funny

      People already complain that firefox is to bloatet. Adding an os might really cause people to complain, but they can always do it as a plugin

    2. Re:Browser down. by ihuntrocks · · Score: 5, Funny

      Given how bloated Emacs is, you're more likely to be able to get Firefox for Emacs.

      Emacs is a wonderful operating system. All it lacks is a decent text editor.

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    3. Re:Browser down. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Emacs is a wonderful operating system. All it lacks is a decent text editor.

      What do you mean by that? You can run Vi in Emacs.

    4. Re:Browser down. by binarylarry · · Score: 4, Funny

      You know.

      Yo dawg, we heard yall use Linux....

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    5. Re:Browser down. by ihuntrocks · · Score: 5, Funny

      I concede defeat to you, sir. Well, played. Well played indeed.

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    6. Re:Browser down. by Idiomatick · · Score: 5, Funny

      I had punch cards... and we hadn't invented the hole punch yet so we had to do it with our fingers. You people worry about carpel tunnel from typing... try ramming your pinky through a sheet of card several hundred thousand times a night. Back then, code monkeys were actual monkeys we trained to poke holes for us to spare our own fingers.

    7. Re:Browser down. by RazzleDazzle · · Score: 4, Funny

      You and your advanced "hole punching technology" have no idea what I go thru

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    8. Re:Browser down. by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Funny

      You had it EASY! We had to punch the holes in ourselves using jagged pieces of rock 25 hours a day, until the IT Manager came along, cut us all to ribbons, ingested us in a carnivorous cannibalistic rage, only have to start again, this time in EBDIC!

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    9. Re:Browser down. by bronney · · Score: 4, Funny

      Last time I punched a ho I got owned.

    10. Re:Browser down. by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Funny

      LUCKY BASTARD! All we had was flat rocks...the big rocks were the ones, the little rocks were the zeros and Deity help you if an earthquake came along and messed up your program. And where do you think stoning came from? It was just us trying to text message! Receiving a single txt with more than "come here" in it could KILL YOU!!!

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  2. Why MS failed. by w0mprat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IE has been diluted by three different versions. IE6 is only really held on to by organisations that developed everything for IE6, and subsequently had everything break when testing IE7. This despite IE6 barely working on half the internet now. Ironically Mircosoft's attempt at lock-in in the past has backfired, few outfits have updated to IE7, less to IE8.

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  3. Re:From The Book of Mozilla, 11:9 by flydpnkrtn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Mammon slept. And the beast reborn spread over the earth and its numbers grew legion. And they proclaimed the times and sacrificed crops unto the fire, with the cunning of foxes. And they built a new world in their own image as promised by the sacred words , and spoke of the beast with their children. Mammon awoke, and lo! it was naught but a follower.

    from The Book of Mozilla, 11:9
    (10th Edition)

  4. StatCounter? by gzipped_tar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Considering most Firefox users are more tech savvy than average and many of them are likely to have already blocked StatCounter altogether, this is impressive.

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    1. Re:StatCounter? by Machtyn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I wouldn't say most FF users are more tech savvy. I would say that most FF users know at least one tech savvy person. Also, I don't think I've blocked StatCounter. I don't know why I should.

    2. Re:StatCounter? by dakameleon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Considering most Firefox users are more tech savvy than average and many of them are likely to have already blocked StatCounter altogether, this is impressive.

      Statcounter uses an image as a fallback for getting stats where the cookie is blocked or Javascript cannot be run, so unless you've blocked all third party images (how's the text web going for you, tinfoil hat man?) it still shows up.

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  5. Re:IE6? Really? by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Its not really that surprising. You have some users who saw what "upgrading" to Vista did to XP, and won't upgrade any software, especially if it switches to a totally different look. You have lots of corporate users, you also have people on pre-XP systems which IE 6 is the latest version of IE for them. Even Windows 2000 only has IE 6 as the most recent version of IE.

    And while IE 6 may be archaic, if you have an intranet based on people using IE 6 that IE 7+, Firefox or another browser breaks, you either have to upgrade the entire intranet or keep IE 6 around.

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  6. An interesting way to summarize the data ... by Wrath0fb0b · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have another way -- Firefox (all versions) at 32%, Internet Explorer (all versions) at 55%. The fact that the IE market is split between 6.X, 7.X and 8.X doesn't not detract from the (regrettable) fact that Internet Explorer is the most popular browser, worldwide. Different versions do not a different browser make.

    In hindsight, this distribution is rather predictable -- FF nags you to update (rightly so) whereas IE can't even update itself, let along notify you about it.

    Here's a plot (thankfully, they give out the raw CSV data) with the "all versions" included. Firefox has a ways to go. http://yfrog.com/j5temptlp

    1. Re:An interesting way to summarize the data ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Different versions do not a different browser make.

      Clearly you have never been involved with web development. "aieee" has wildly different bugs and proprietary features between major versions.

    2. Re:An interesting way to summarize the data ... by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here's a plot (thankfully, they give out the raw CSV data) with the "all versions" included. Firefox has a ways to go. http://yfrog.com/j5temptlp

      Statcounter also plots that, fwiw. (Click on the dropdown box after "Statistic:" at the bottom-left of the graph to get other views and data sets as well.)

    3. Re:An interesting way to summarize the data ... by dido · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The real story here is in the trends of each version. IE7 and IE6 are in decline. For Internet Explorer, only IE8 is still growing, but its rate of growth is significantly slower than Firefox's. The headline may be misleading, but the the summary is right on the money. If these trends keep up, the headline may well become true a lot sooner than you seem to think.

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    4. Re:An interesting way to summarize the data ... by Zerth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not to mention that IE8's growth seems to be exclusively at the expense of 6/7 so IE as a whole has declined greatly, or the market has grown while IE use has remained constant.

  7. My plan worked by palmerj3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Reenactment - relative has problem with computer

    1. Remove shortcuts to Internet Explorer
    2. Rename Firefox shortcuts to "Internet"

    Firefox 3.5 - My Idea

  8. Re:IE6? Really? by rrohbeck · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I see "This site requires Internet Explorer 6" on our Intranet all the time. Peoplesoft for example, urgh.
    Of course, the site will run perfectly with Firefox if I change the user agent string.

    Corporate Intranets with lazy admins or dumb policies are what keeps IE6 alive.

  9. Re:One word: adblock by techno-vampire · · Score: 4, Informative
    (sorry Slashdot!)

    When I first saw the option on Slashdot's main page to turn off ads I was a tad croggled. I'd been using Firefox with AdBlock + for so long I'd forgotten that there were ads on Slashdot.

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  10. Obligatory xkcd post by zill · · Score: 5, Funny

    http://xkcd.com/198/

    Unless you're a web browser developer, keeping track of global browser market-shares is just plain nerdy. But then again, this is /..

  11. Re:IE6? Really? by elashish14 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Corporate Intranets with lazy admins or dumb policies are Microsoft's best friend.

    Fixed

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  12. Re:Given the instant speed difference alone by Runaway1956 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I fail to see all good news for Firefox on that page. Or, should I say that I don't see all good news for consumers.

    Together, IE6, IE7 and IE8 still dominate the market. I'm afraid that will remain true for a couple more years, no matter how much pressure the rest of the world puts on the market. Separating the versions of the various browsers just clutters the picture.

    If I may, I'll point out that I'm partly color blind. It's tough to see that chart. It's hard to see the "real picture". What is literally true for me, is figuratively true for those who are working so hard to track browser usage.

    Is there a page that tracks usage, which lumps IE (all versions), Firefox (all versions) Opera (all versions) etc?

    Ahhhhh, here we go: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-weekly-200827-200951

    Yes indeed. Global domination by Firefox is indeed getting closer - but not this year, and probably not next year. Let's give it between 3 and 5 years, alright?

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  13. Re:IE6? Really? by IntlHarvester · · Score: 4, Informative

    Except that IE8 is perfectly capable of emulating both IE6's and IE7's standards-noncompliance modes.

    Nope, IE8 does not emulate IE6, which is the chief problem here. (It does emulate IE5, however.)

    In fact, CSS2 that "works" in IE6 is almost guaranteed to break in IE8 or any other modern browser.

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  14. Non uniform adoption across countries? by zlel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live in Japan and adoption seems really conservative. Let's first take version numbers away to get a better view.
    Japan
    Firefox has been having a 21-23% share for the 2 years, with IE still leading though dropping from 70 to 65%
    Growth in conservative. UK seems to have a similar trend.

    Singapore
    About 30% share and growth is conservative.

    Malaysia
    Growth from 30% up to 40%, with an equal drop in IE share.
    This looks like a market where Firefox can overtake IE?

    France
    very interesting trend. W38 2008 and W26 2009 had a short period where IE use was displaced by Firefox, but IE use was resumed in a few weeks.
    Does that mean users in France are open to the idea, but still don't deem Firefox a good replacement yet?
    Interestingly Vietnam seems to have a similar trend.

    China
    IE has 95% share all the way, with a drop recently, giving way not to Firefox, but to Maxthon.

    Poland / Finland
    Firefox is the most popular browser!

    North Korea
    Nobody really wins. Only IE, once in a while.

    Antartica
    Go figure. But firefox seems to be winning?

    It would be nice if we could have a world map of the most popular browsers in each country
    so we can adjust our expectations when talking to overseas partners...

  15. Seriously.. non event by powerspike · · Score: 5, Informative

    The only reason this has happened, is because people are migrating from IE7 to IE8, if you look at the graph, firefox is a little over half the combined marketshare of ie 7 & 8, this will change in a month or two as more and more people migrate to ie8.

    Using the same method as the poster, you can say that ie6 has more market share then Firefox 3 ....

  16. Re:IE6? Really? by Lord+Ender · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Corporate Intranets with no budget for upgrades are what keeps IE6 alive.

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