Malware and Botnet Operators Going ISP
Trailrunner7 writes to mention that malware and botnet operators appear to be escalating to the next level by setting up their own virtual data centers. This elevates the criminals to the ISP level, making it much harder to stop them. "The criminals will buy servers and place them in a large data center and then submit an application for a large block of IP space. In some cases, the applicants are asked for nothing more than a letter explaining why they need the IP space, security researchers say. No further investigation is done, and once the criminals have the IP space, they've taken a layer of potential problems out of the equation. 'It's gotten completely out of hand. The bad guys are going to some local registries in Europe and getting massive amounts of IP space and then they just go to a hosting provider and set up their own data centers,' said Alex Lanstein, senior security researcher at FireEye, an anti-malware and anti-botnet vendor. 'It takes one more level out of it: You own your own IP space and you're your own ISP at that point.'"
If they own the IP block (or it's assigned exclusively to them) then wouldn't that make it a lot easier to block them? Why complain? Just find out their range and shitlist it.
Maybe I'm not being smart today, but doesn't that actually make it easier to block the bad guys, once their address space is identified?
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I thought the entire reason why botnets were so hard to stop is because they could be on a huge range of IP addresses. With this isn't it trivial to see that Evilnet ISP is a botnet and has the IP addresses xxx.xxx.x.xxx- xxx.xxx.x.yyy and just block those? I mean, yeah, if they had enough bandwidth they could still flood you with requests that slow down the servers because they all need to be blocked, but shouldn't it make blocking them easier?
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
No further investigation is done
And none should be. They're a potential customer buying IP addresses and hosting, not automatic weapons.
Pretty soon we're gonna be so "secure" it's gonna take an act of congress take a piss.
Having a block of IP addresses does not make one an ISP.
Remember back in the 90s when everyone was jizzing in their pants about Bruce Sterling and Neal Stephenson's writing, dreaming of actually implementing the ideas therein? Data havens, crypto-anarchism, impregnable anonymity, hackers making a decent living by a life of crime, and so forth?
Well, now the future is here. Kind of sucks, doesn't it? Careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Sure, we know a lot of the botnet activities that we care about - distributed spamming, distributed hacking, etc... But I suspect that isn't what they want the dedicated IP space for. People already pointed out that if the lion's share of your spam or hacking attempts came from a single IP block, it would be trivial to block it.
.com, .org, .net domains not only are not restricted to sales to people/companies/organizations in the US, they aren't even restricted to being sold by companies in the US. So by owning IP space, they can actually keep more of their own money for their operations, thus increasing their profit margins. They can offer hosting, DNS, and registration services for anyone who wants to sell anything, and then sell them spamming services as well.
Hence I suspect the operators want the IP space for other uses. Consider your average spam - we'll say it asks you to buy viagra through joescheapdrugs.com. Now joescheapdrugs.com needs to be purchased, which requires a registrar. It also needs to be resolved via a DNS server somewhere (which isn't always done by the registrar or ISP). If joescheapdrugs.com were an average spamvertised site, it would likely be hosted in one continent, registered through a registrar in another, and resolved by a DNS in yet another.
The IP space would be useful because the DNS could be done in that range, and once the spammers establish an accredited registrar they could sell themselves domains from there too. We all know that
It becomes one-stop-shopping for vendors trying to make a fast buck (or those who don't know better).
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
No it's not, several of the larger spam/malware gangs including the infamous Russian Business Network have been doing this for several years now. That's partly what prompted Spamhaus to create their solution to the problem: DROP. All it takes is a for the majority of the Tier 1 carriers to adopt the DROP list and it's pretty much game over for this this technique.
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
"You own your own IP space and you're your own ISP at that point." I believe this sentence was designed to make youtube commenters' heads to explode......your you're you what?