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Critics Call For NASA TV To "Liven Up"

An article in the LA Times calls NASA out for failing to make broadcasts on their dedicated television network as entertaining as they can be. The author, David Ferrell, complains that fascinating subject matter is often fraught with boring commentary and frequent, extended silences, making most people quickly lose interest. Quoting: "Witness one recent segment about the recovery of a Soyuz capsule upon its return to Earth. The dark, bullet-like object landed in the featureless steppes of Kazakhstan, about 50 miles outside the unheard-of town of Arkalyk. Coverage consisted of video shot from an all-terrain vehicle approaching it — mostly soundless footage of tall grass going by — with an occasional word by an unnamed commentator. 'You can see the antenna that deployed shortly after landing,' the commentator said in that deadpan tone shared by scientists and golf announcers. The camera chronicled the tedious extraction of three crew members weakened by spending six months in orbit; they were loaded one by one onto stretchers. 'Again, a rather methodical process,' the commentator noted, as if grasping for something — anything — to say. Later: 'The official landing time has been revised to 1:15 and 34 seconds a.m., Central Time. The official time was recorded at the Russian Mission Control Center . . . by the Russian flight-control team.' ... Where is Carl Sagan when you need him?"

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  1. This ain't MTV! by bziman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't WANT NASA TV to appeal to the lowest common denominator. The Discovery Channel used to be educational... now it's "how can we use science to blow shit up?" MTV used to be music videos... now it's the Shiny Things Network(c). I tune to NASA TV when I actually want to see what's ACTUALLY going on, narrated by someone who actually has some idea of what they're talking about, without going through an "audience is retarded" filter. If you don't find it interesting, fine, wait a few days, and read the brain-dead version in one of the mass media outlets. CNN will be happy to distill six hours of interesting live coverage down to a 30 second clip that you can digest will drinking your Starbucks. NASA TV is what it is for a good reason. The cameras are always on, and when something interesting, but unexpected happens, you get to watch it unfold. Keep your Hollywood ideas off my Nerdovision.

    1. Re:This ain't MTV! by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's a difference between turning NASA broadcasts into Spike TV with Space Capsules and actually trying to be a little less boring than going through airport security.

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    2. Re:This ain't MTV! by Dripdry · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've been watching NASA TV on and off since about 2000. I find the long silences to be Zen-like and relaxing. I can put it on as background in the evening, or while getting work done. Although the mission control screens and drives to recovery sites may be a bit tedious, there is something uniquely majestic about some of the long silences, especially the shots of space. It's the same way I like much of my music. Just because many people are used to action every 5 seconds in the media they consume doesn't mean that long bouts of calm punctuated with occasional fanfare is bad.

      Further to that point, it's more like real life. Media just edits out the boring parts of daily existence and puts up the interesting ones to entertain us. What's wrong with consuming something more realistic for a change? That used to be why I put the weather channel on when I wanted to relax. Now it's so wham-bam-OMG-STAY-INDOORS! that I can scarcely stand it for five minutes.

      In short, I advocate for a more relaxed media experience, but your mileage may vary.

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    3. Re:This ain't MTV! by node+3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      People simply aren't interested in seeing every step of a recovery process with nothing else.

      Then I guess I'm not a person? I'm not going to tune in to every second of every mission or anything, but it's interesting to watch what's going on. What's *really* going on, and not just the TL;DW version.

      There already exists outlets for "less boring" NASA TV.

      At the very least, do what CNN does when they're waiting for stuff to happen on camera, like someone to come out of a courthouse...have a bunch of random 'experts' sitting around a table in the studio, and cut to them for a few minutes at a time, and back when things actually happen.

      OH HELL NO! There's nothing I can stand *LESS* on TV than when commentators talk all over something that's going on. The opening ceremonies of the summer Olympics is a prime example. I want to watch the event as an audience member would, as the director (or whatever) designed it. I don't need to know that the digital rice paper screen is made up of ten trillion LEDs, or (even worse) that Athens is named after the "Patron Saint" (serious) Athena.

      Now, for the many minutes leading up to some big event (Mars rovers, Moon impact, etc), they *DO* have a panel of "experts" (they're called scientists. "expert" is a cable news euphemism for "someone with a strong opinion that we paid to argue with someone with an *almost* equally strong, but opposite opinion than the opinion we wish to instill") who discuss the science of the current mission.

      NASA TV is like C-SPAN, or PBS. It's not meant to bring in money or appeal to the lowest common denominator (which is what "the broadest audience" really means). There's already CNN et al for people who'd find C-SPAN boring, and broadcast TV for those who aren't interested by PBS. NASA TV has Discovery, The Science Channel, CNN etc. for news events, and so on.

    4. Re:This ain't MTV! by nailBnny · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I do not want "action every 5 seconds". My addiction is information. Tell me everything and I will tune in and out as needed.

  2. multiple feeds? by cashman73 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The solution could actually be something like better incorporation of multiple feeds. I mean, they could spruce up the NASA TV cable network to make it a bit more appealing to the "brain dead crowd", while at the same time having the raw footage and all the good stuff (which, to non-Slashdotters, is ridiculously boring) on their website. This could probably work quite well for about a year or two under the right management, but unfortunately will inevitably be screwed up by Comcast, much in the same way that G4 screwed up TechTV.

  3. Re:I watch NasaTV by Jonathan+McDowell · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Exactly. Actually NASA TV has been dumbed down too much already compared to how it was in the late 1980s. The commentators speak over space-to-ground comms while repeating the same limited statistics
    they've said 5 times already. We're geeks, we want data, so give us some different numbers - delta-V of the latest burn, what's the airlock pressure now, not just the official
    landing time that the reporter was complaining about but the latitude and longitude of the landing site as well. That's the background info we need so we can go off and write the purple prose that Ferrell is looking for.

    Better yet, stream the raw MOCR console data to us so we can crunch the numbers ourselves :-)

    (Why yes, I am a scientist too. Why do you keep asking that?)

  4. In fact... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...isn't NASA TV public domain like other NASA IP? If so, if some dude is unhappy about the broadcasts not being shiny enough, he can just make his own. Hell, if his opinion isn't utter bullshit, he can even profit from it! What is he waiting for?????

  5. Re:Oh hell no. by Quantumstate · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I was visited America I remember trying to watch an american football match replay/highlights. If I ignore the fact that it was 50% adverts cutting in every 3 minutes it was still utterly dreadful. It showed very short clips of bits of play so you had little idea of what was actually going on with some crazy overexcited presenter yelling for the entire thing. Baseball generally seemed much better, ignoring the advert breaks. In the UK, with a football (soccer) match, even if it is on a channel with advertising you only get adverts at half time and before and after the match so there are two 45 minute blocks of uninterrupted football with decent commentators in general.

  6. Re:I watch NasaTV by multisync · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Better yet, stream the raw MOCR console data to us so we can crunch the numbers ourselves :-)

    I can't find the link now, but I'm sure I remember downloading the Rover Sequence Editor and being able to see actual mission data with it. It was running on an old Mandriva box I don't have any more.

    Maybe I'm remembering it incorrectly, but it seems to me they provided access to the same data the scientists at JPL had, as well as the same client they were using. You could use that data and the Hyperdrive visualizer to create your own sequences of commands. I never invested the time to get beyond the basics with it, but it was a lot of fun.

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  7. Re:leave nasa alone by SBFCOblivion · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Out of curiosity (honestly), what is wrong with pbs? The NOVA stuff is too similar to the other channels for you? Too dumbed down?