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China Moving To Restrict Neodymium Supply

GuyFawkes writes with this quote from the Independent: "Britain and other Western countries risk running out of supplies of certain highly sought-after rare metals that are vital to a host of green technologies, amid growing evidence that China, which has a monopoly on global production, is set to choke off exports of valuable compounds. Failure to secure alternative long-term sources of rare earth elements (REEs) would affect the manufacturing and development of low-carbon technology, which relies on the unique properties of the 17 metals to mass-produce eco-friendly innovations such as wind turbines and low-energy light bulbs. China, whose mines account for 97 per cent of global supplies, is trying to ensure that all raw REE materials are processed within its borders. During the past seven years it has reduced by 40 per cent the amount of rare earths available for export."

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  1. Rare Earths Not Necessarily Rare by CodeBuster · · Score: 5, Informative

    This has been discussed here on Slashdot before, but rare earths are not as difficult to mine and produce as the term "rare" implies; they are rare only in a relative sense compared to other common elements of the Earth's crust. They are mostly not rare on the same order as gold or platinum group metals, although there are exceptions. There are plenty of sources for most of these elements in the continental United States and other nations outside of China; it just costs a certain amount of money to mine and refine them. If China chokes off supplies from their own mines and processors then it will make those same sorts of mines and processors cost-competitive again here in the United States and elsewhere in the world. This really isn't that big of a deal.

    1. Re:Rare Earths Not Necessarily Rare by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah, the current Chinese monopoly on current production for many of the elements is just because they've undercut all other producers, so rare earths are too cheap to be worth mining outside of China. There was quite a lot of rare-earth mining in the U.S. in the 1980s and 90s, and many of those mines are still waiting to be restarted when the price gets high enough to be worth it. Here's a timeline from the largest U.S. miner (currently not mining, but sitting around processing some existing stocks of ore).

  2. More detail on this topic. by GuyFawkes · · Score: 5, Informative
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  3. Re:and why not ? by abigor · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, China is a signatory to the WTO and curbing raw materials exports is a violation. The WTO is looking into the issue: http://www.purchasing.com/article/441486-WTO_to_study_China_s_raw_material_export_curbs.php

    No Western country could get away with limiting raw materials exports for secondary and tertiary onshore processing, though some have tried.

  4. Re:Well if that's not a case for invasion by PatDev · · Score: 5, Informative

    Umm, the Chinese did not cut off the supply of Opium. They cut off the demand for opium. The British were illegally smuggling opium from India into China, then the Chinese enforced their laws, leading to war.

  5. Re:Japan had better mend relations quickly... by konekoniku · · Score: 4, Informative

    Or more likely, Japan will just shift its neodymium orders to mines in the US, Australia, Brazil, and elsewhere, as these will increase their output when China drives up global prices by restricting her exports. Rare earth metals are only relatively rare -- we're not nearly about to run out of the things, and China isn't the only country with significant total reserves. At any rate, Japan doesn't owe China war reparations anymore anyway: Mao Zedong waived all reparations as part of the price for buying Japan's diplomatic recognition in 1972.

  6. Re:not so green, huh? by EsbenMoseHansen · · Score: 3, Informative

    very gooood. i think this is highly amusing, on several fronts. the first is just the irony of the country touted as having "A Bad Human Rights Record" (when in fact they are just using common sense to keep control over 1.3 billion people) happens to now hold a damocles sword over the rest of the world if it wants to go "green".

    According to wikipedia, this entire article is just silly. Neodymium is not rare, nor only occurring in China.

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  7. Re:not so green, huh? by Anonymous+Bullard · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Chinese "communist" dictatorship - the most murderous in human history - has obviously a long list of crimes to their "credit" (modern corporate speak), but in this context it might also be relevant to mention that part of that regime's near total control over the rare earth elements is due to China's invasion and ongoing genocidal occupation of Tibet since 1950.

    Mao Zedong may have "only" wanted pre-one-child-policy era lebensraum for the Chinese masses (from 1950 to 1970 the Chinese population doubled from 500 million to 1 billion), geopolitical and military control over the Central Asian highlands of Tibet and incomprehensible (in communist terms anyway) validation of China's fairytale-like feudal imperial claims over the absolutely non-Chinese Tibetan people when he sent his Communist Party's then-idle wardogs to invade and occupy Tibet, but it turned out that the subsequent Chinese national-socialist (read: Chinazi) leaders and their affiliated business "princelings" have found it incredibly lucrative to ransack Tibet of its natural resources.

    Nearly all historically invaluable precious metal artifacts and statues were melted for Mao's foreign currency purchases (while the invaluable Buddhist scriptures and almost all of the more than 6000 monasteries were simply burned down or bombed. Tibet's forests have been hacked down and shipped off to China (leaving only erosion behind). Uranium, gas and oil are extracted by Party-affiliated cronies and the Chinese regime only leaving behind severe pollution. All profitable industrial metals, including the rare earth metals, are being excavated while protesting native Tibetans get the old Gestapo treatment. Et cetera and et cetera.

    Did I mention that the Chinese dictatorship is hard at work damming and diverting the major Asian rivers originating in Tibet and providing lifeline to over a billion South-Asians (incl. India) downstream, in order to generate electric power and to provide water for the occupying Chinese state and the newly settled Chinese instead? United Nations' conventions be damned in every case.

    So what if the Chinese regime now wants to restrict the supply of crucial industrial metals? Don't say you didn't see it coming. Consider sending a distress signal to your democratic representative, that is if the "western" corporations don't already have him or her in their pocket.

    The Western and democratic peoples need to either shut up and live with the consequences, or do something before it's too late for all of us.

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  8. Re:and why not ? by phoenix321 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Chinese people can demand all they want, they got no Bill of Rights and no Second Amendment to force their superiors to implement one. Since yesterday, they are facing prison for looking at pictures of naked women on the Internet. I don't think they will get around demanding anything anytime soon.

  9. Re:and why not ? by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 4, Informative
    Just to make clear, this article does not say that China will not export Neodynium. They will, as ingots - lots of ingots. It's just that until now, they've been exporting the metal at much earlier stages of the refining process, so Western companies have been buying it up, processing it and selling it at a big markup. Now China is saying that they want to be the people to do that processing and collect the markup.

    Likewise, Canada wouldn't create a wood shortage if they announced that they will no longer sell logs but instead sell only kiln-dried boards.

  10. Re:and why not ? by evilviper · · Score: 3, Informative

    Everything is made in China , they can be penalized and they won't care. They will keep doing it until we bar all Chinese products , good luck doing that.

    No economist in the world will deny that China needs the US a lot more than the US needs China.

    Everything is NOT made in China. China remains the #3 economy, a very large margin behind the US and Japan. The US remains the #1 manufacture in the world... almost double that of #2.

    You think China makes "everything" because you see the little "Made in China" label on every $2 item you buy, and assume that's all there is to the world. You don't buy turbines, heavy construction machinery, commercial jets, etc. There are lots of Chinese business owners bemoaning the fact that "Everything is made in the USA and Japan."

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  11. Re:and why not ? by timeOday · · Score: 5, Informative

    Oh brother. Any issue with rare earth elements is completely dwarfed by our billion dollar per day dependency on foreign oil. Refusing to see the vast difference in scale between the two is completely irrational.

  12. Re:and why not ? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Informative

    I work in the loudspeaker industry - we use a LOT of neo magnets. China is really about the only place in the world where you can get neo magnets made. The last vendor in the US closed years ago (General Magnetics down in Texas) not because of lack of sales but environmental regulations. Refining of neo into magnets and other materials has effectively been shut down in the US by regulations, meaning we have no choice but to buy neo based products from overseas (mainly China).

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