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Canada's Airlines Face a Privacy Dilemma

Interoperable writes "Canada's airlines are caught between a rock and a hard place in the face of new US regulations that require them to collect and hand over personal information about passengers. Handing over information regarding a passenger's name, gender and birth-date may violate Canadian privacy laws but merely flying over American airspace is conditional on doing exactly that. It seems that the long arms of the TSA are eager to grope at Canadians taking a shortcut to Toronto; no doubt to prevent any terrorist attacks on Lake Huron."

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  1. paranoid freaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    every stinking time i have to deal with the asshats that are the tsa i play paranoid freaks by the trews. it's so fitting.

    what happened to innocent until proven guilty? like another coward says, your country no longer interests me. and to think at one time i would have given up my canadian citizenship to live in the states.

  2. Just ignore them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Just ignore the US, if they make a big stink about it then one by one we should start shutting off all the things we supply them:

    Water
    Electricity
    Oil
    Access to Alaska

    Eventually they will give in to reason.

    1. Re:Just ignore them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Just ignore the US, if they make a big stink about it then one by one we should start shutting off all the things we supply them:

      Water
      Electricity
      Oil
      Access to Alaska

      Eventually they will give in to reason.

      And the Alaska National Guard would have to kick Canada's ass. Now that would be an entertaining 15 minutes.

  3. STFU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    niggers and beaners are disgusting, filthy vermin.

    The ARYAN race will overcome the subhumans and rebuild EDEN.

  4. Re:Turnabout may be a fair remedy to bad policy... by gbutler69 · · Score: 0, Troll

    It's funny, someone earlier on said something about all the "Non-Whites" seceding from the U.S. in the states where they are the Majority (what they really mean is where a collection of various minorities is the majority, whites are still the plurality). Then this comment about the security personnel. I've noticed, in almost any airport in the U.S. one cares to visit, that the majority of the security personnel are NON-WHITE! Now, who exactly is it that is making things bad in the U.S. Who are the greatest numbers of criminals? Violent Crimes? Who are the scientists and engineers? Who are the software developers? Stop the White Guilt! Whites aren't ruining this country. Take a look around.

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  5. Re:Fuck you America ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    But the first time that people of the U.S. travel to another country

    The people of the US *have* visited other countries- on at least half a dozen occasions! Though granted, that includes the times when they accidentally get on an international flight instead of the domestic Buttfuck, Illinois to Whogivesatoss, Nebraska route. Imagine their shock at having to visit a local branch of McDonalds that didn't include all the US menu items!

  6. Change you can believe in by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 0, Troll

    It must be Bush and the Republicans' fault . . . oh wait.

    I hope all those Kool Aid drinkers from last year learned a valuable lesson: Obama's the better liar.

  7. Re:US bullying and demanding other countries.. by c6gunner · · Score: 0, Troll

    But please, let me get a flight my country to another country and back without having to take off my shoes and belt, step through a perv machine, give up all my data to third party TSAs, and sit for an hour without a book, drink, mp3 player, laptop or the right to take a piss, just because you think you're so important that I might just hijack the plane, fly it across the Atlantic and crash it into your local Wal-mart.

    I'm sorry, Your Highness - if we had been informed of your arrival, we wouldn't have DREAMED of inconveniencing you just for the sake of saving a few thousand lives. You should really consider wearing your Tiara, next time, so that our screening lackeys can more easily recognize you in a crowd.

  8. You think like a ReThuglican Jew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    You think like a ReThuglican Jew

  9. Re:US bullying and demanding other countries.. by furball · · Score: 0, Troll

    Would you care if the plane that crashes just kills you, your family, and any pets you may have? What if instead of crashing a plane, someone just kills you, your family, and your pet but save the hassle of air travelers? We'd save a whole aircraft too!

    Or is it totally different when your survival is on the line?

  10. Tell US to F*** off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    There have to be 10x to 100x more USA domestic flights that enter Canadian airspace than the other way around. I hope Canada tells us to F*** off on this one. Which would hurt more, USA telling Canada that Canadian domestic flights can't overfly USA, or the other way around?

  11. american nationalist zealot responds: by circletimessquare · · Score: 1, Troll

    let us increase funding and illicit aid for the quebecois separatists, and with the next vote of secession, finally divide canada into 3 parts. alberta will choose union with us freely, and then we have 3 smaller anglocanadian units and one frog unit to deal with. divided, internally contentious and much weaker in comparison, we shall dispatch these remnants one by one and digest the mostly useless icebox in our attic once and for all. leave quebec free as a rump reminder. i'm sick of the mosquitoes whining above us (oh no wait, we're talking about the canadian prairie: better get used to mosquitoes. and mud. when its not ice)

    since we are already culturally and linguistically assimilated, political domination will be easy. canada is after all, nothing but unincorporated american territory. i know you take pride in the 1812 trouncing that is the only reason you even exist but that wasn't done by canadians. it was done by the british. its strange to me to take pride in a supposed nationality that had to be finally forcibly weaned from the british imperial tit in the 1980s(!). and yet you still have some foreign bitch on your money. pathetic. this is a national identity to take pride in?

    <back to reality/>

    that's not how the usa deals with canada. or thinks of canada. but that's what an american nationalist zealot would think. are you sure you are dealing with what you think you are dealing with?

    reality: relations between canada and the usa is probably the most peaceful relationship between two large neighboring countries in the history of the world. so admit that, and mellow your loud ignorant words

    now, if you insist on the "american nationalist zealot" line, i can point to many parallels in the world that might not be so cheerful for canada. if you want a powerful neighbor ruled by nationalist zealots, you can always try the imperial empires of china and russia, and if you know your history of how those empires divided, dissolved, neutralized and incorporated their neighbors over the centuries, you'll be thanking your lucky stars that the usa is your southern neighbor. i'm sorry, your ONLY neighbor. if the usa were run by actual nationalist zealots hell bent on empire, canada would be our siberia or our tibet/ xinjiang in a heartbeat. and if you want to say that the history of the usa IS like russia and china, then you're merely leveling the moral playing field to pointless equivalency, because canada is certainly no saint in the nation-building crimes list:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Riel

    we surround you, and we are peaceful with you. sorry our airspace policies displease you

    but know the relative truth of the reality of canada-usa relations in the history of the world, and be thankful you have the neighbor you do. i am thankful for the peaceful mostly upstanding neighbor to our north, so return the favorable impression. lest you sound like just another whiny clueless prick. we plenty of those in this world and on this forum

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