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Bringing Free Television To Phones In America

ideonexus writes "South Korea, China, Brazil, parts of Europe, and Japan have been watching television on their phones for free since 2005, but American mobile carriers are struggling to offer clunky streaming video using Qualcomm's proprietary MediaFLO system for an additional monthly fee and excessive bandwidth demands. Now, with America having gone digital in June, if Mobile carriers were to have ATSC M/H (advanced television systems committee — mobile/handheld) television-tuner chips built into their handsets it sounds like we could enjoy free TV on our cell phones too; however, these companies have already invested a great deal of money adapting their networks to Qualcomm's format and Qualcomm is considering becoming a mobile television distributor itself."

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  1. Re:Dedicated devices do it better. by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Only because apple does not want to add it. Nokia phones have had FM radio WITH RDS forever.

    Honestly, just because the iPhone does not have it does not mean that others dont have it, or have had it a long time already.

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  2. Europe, Japan,.. Use standards,, America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    thinks it is better without. Americans don't want government "interfering". They claim the market will decide the best approach. It does not. It picks best short term profitability for one company (Qualcom in this case). Europe requires cellphone to be interchangable across networks, America lets cell providers each use their own scheme. You can get better cell phones and features in India then America because they follow a standard and their is a bigger market. For the US and Canada (I am Canadian), push the governments to dictate cell phone providers need to use an open common standard for all cell phone services (copy Europe's standard).

    1. Re:Europe, Japan,.. Use standards,, America by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What a load of shit. Americans are getting shafted on mobile phones. Your plans are expensive, you pay to receive calls most if not all instances and your phones don't work with ever provider.

      Just image if your TV and land line phone was like that or that houses had different electrical sockets depending on who built it.

      Standards are not socialism, it's common fucking sense because as clearly proven by the mobile phone market in the US that a free market with no standards has left the US in an awful state.

      You're not any more free in the US because you're letting mobile companies shaft you.

  3. Who cares? by chaffed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's nothing worth watching.

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  4. Re:Why? by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A mobile phone is a throw away cheap device

    I still don't understand this mindset. A mobile phone, bought without a contract, is often upwards of a few hundred dollars here in America. Purchased with a contract, it comes at the price of about $50 with two years worth of monthly payments that you can't get out of without paying, you guessed it, a few hundred dollars. Nowhere in my book does that price put mobile phones in the range of cheap throw away devices. Cheap throw away devices are things like paper towels and flashlights that run under the $20 mark and are trivial to find and purchase just about anywhere. Something as expensive as a mobile phone seems to me like a long term investment. I put a lot of thought into what kind of phone I am going to purchase, what kind of capability it should have, and how much I am willing to pay for that capability. Mobile phone purchases require research and awareness and sometimes even a bit of silver-tongued bartering on the buyer's part. That doesn't seem like a throw away device to me.

    I really wish this idea and similar ideas regarding things like computers and video game consoles would cease already. I am sick of having to save up for new multiple hundred dollar purchases every two or three new years because designers and companies refuse to design a product that lasts more than a couple years. That's not to say that I don't see value in upgrading for some new exciting feature. Sure, if a video game console provides a whole new interface or something cool like that, I won't have a problem dropping coin on it. Having to buy a new Xbox 360 every couple years just because a company won't put any money into quality engineer is frustrating though.

    The same thing goes with mobile phones. If a company adds some cool new feature, like cameras, to their phone, I will drop coin on buying it if I value the feature. Paying to constantly replace a simple phone that I use primarily for texting or talking on every couple of years seems absurd however. This is especially true when I need to buy a new phone for no other reason than it has problems interfacing with a new battery or because the screen just magically 'wears out.'

    I know that wasn't the point of your post, but I don't consider purchases of a few hundred dollars whimsical or cheap. I really wish tech companies would stop pushing these items on us like they were cheap throw away toilet paper to be replaced in a dozen months. I want something that lasts if I am going to buy it damn it. Hell, I am riding a 31 year old motorcycle that functions just fine today. I would be stoked if I could get mobile phone that could do the same....

    On a side note, I can also use a land-line telephone that is 31 years old today. Our culture seems to have changed quite a bit when it comes to quality engineering.

  5. Users are not the phone-builder's customers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Phones in the US are designed to the demands of the Mobile Carriers, not the users. Given the choice of selling the users a television service, or adding a chip to the phones to the users can watch TV for free none of the Carriers is going to choose the chip. It wouldn't make any sense.

  6. Re:Dollars and nonsense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The article claims it costs US carriers $240/hour to stream live TV to a user, per user! And yet they charge $15/month ... SOMEBODY is lying

  7. Do we need another distraction? by geekmux · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "South Korea, China, Brazil, parts of Europe, and Japan have been watching television on their phones for free since 2005...

    Er, I'm wondering how many of those countries have the numbers the US does, using these devices while attempting to steer 2 tons of steel down a freeway at 60MPH with 60,000 of their closest friends riding bumper to bumper? Somehow, I think the last thing we need is another visual distraction on a cell phone.

    Perhaps this is one of those features that we don't go all Lemming over. Never really understood the fascination of browsing the web or watching video on a tiny-ass screen. The "because I can" cool factor usually wears off after about 20 minutes, or when you battery prematurely dies, whichever comes first.

  8. Flash by Enderandrew · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I thought some have suggested this was a big reason why Flash has been ported to other platforms, but isn't on the iPhone. AT&T has publicly said it, but there are theories AT&T is terrified of what would happen to data usage if you could stream video to the iPhone via Flash from any number of sites.

    Not to mention it would hurt iTunes video sales to the same devices.

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