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Alleged Ponzi Mastermind Hacked In Antigua

krebsonsecurity writes "Criminal hackers apparently involved in break-ins at several US financial institutions also appear to have dug up dirt on Robert Allen Stanford, a man slated to go on trial this month for his alleged part in an $8 billion Ponzi scheme. Quoting: 'In early 2008, while federal investigators were busy investigating disgraced financier Robert Allen Stanford for his part in an alleged $8 billion fraudulent investment scheme, Eastern European hackers were quietly hoovering up tens of thousands customer financial records from the Bank of Antigua, an institution formerly owned by the Stanford Group.'"

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  1. The headline is dodgy by carlhaagen · · Score: 3, Informative

    Was it an alleged Ponzi mastermind in Antigua that was hacked, or was he hacked (while) in Antigua? Come on... We went through this stuff already in 1st grade with Mrs. Applecheeks.

  2. Very strange article. by Noryungi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Am I the only one who finds the entire article strange?

    Here is what it says about the hack itself:

    Once inside of Stanford’s network, the unidentified hackers appear to have swiped the credentials from an internal network administrator, and soon had downloaded the user names and password hashes for more than 1,000 employees of Stanford Financial, Stanford Group, Stanford Trust, and Stanford International Bank Ltd.

    Among the purloined files is a listing of what appear to be ownership and balance information for tens of thousands of customer accounts at Bank of Antigua. Each listing includes the account number, owner’s name, address, balance, and accrued interest.

    So far, so good.

    But here is where it becomes really strange:

    It’s also unclear whether the hackers managed to steal any funds from the accounts listed in the recovered documents, or indeed whether the attackers ever had direct access to Bank of Antigua accounts. Still, a set of documents found with the account information suggest the perpetrators did a fairly thorough job mapping the internal networks connecting Stanford offices in Austin, Baton Rouge, Boca Raton, Boston, Denver, Ft. Lauderdale, Houston, Memphis, Miami, Montreal, New York, San Francisco, Sugarland, and Washington, D.C.

    What ??!!?? Or, even more clearly: WTF??

    Are you trying to tell me that people sophisticated enough to get the credentials of a system administrators, info on hundreds of accounts, including passwords and so on and so forth have not transferred anything?

    It's like, I have total access to hundreds of accounts, after cracking open your system security, but I did not take anything?

    This thing stinks to high heaven. Either the Ponzi scheme had no money left in it, or I am willing to bet the hackers, whoever they are, have quietly siphoned a lot of money overseas.

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    1. Re:Very strange article. by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's like, I have total access to hundreds of accounts, after cracking open your system security, but I did not take anything?

      Maybe they had an air-gap firewall, or at least a data diode.

      If I were running that sort of network, that's what I would use to partition off the real money from the record keeping.

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    2. Re:Very strange article. by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maybe there weren't any hackers. Maybe it was Stanford himslef trying to make an alibi to stay out of prison. "No, it wasn't a Ponzi scheme, we were hacked!"

    3. Re:Very strange article. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      This thing stinks to high heaven. Either the Ponzi scheme had no money left in it, or I am willing to bet the hackers, whoever they are, have quietly siphoned a lot of money overseas.

      Parhaps it was the infamous Eastern European hacker Robertski Allenovitch Stanfordski

    4. Re:Very strange article. by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except that in the majority of these systems, the records ARE the real money.

      Ok, let me be more precise - I would partition off the systems connected to the electronic funds transfer network from the rest of the systems. Requests for transfers would come across the data-diode and then require a manual confirmation in order to execute.

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  3. Lost Money Anyone by b4upoo · · Score: 2

    It sounds to me like a bunch of US tax avoiders may well have lost their financial behinds in that bank. Justice!

  4. Re:huh? by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Hmm. Well, with me, anytime I read a headline with 'Ponzi Scheme', I naturally think of the US Social Security system.

    My first thoughts were "We've offshored out SS to Antigua!?!??".

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  5. Re:Congress by Zantac69 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oh come on...SSA and medicare is not a Ponzi. Instead of the govt lining the pockets with cash defrauded from the tax payers...they are just pissing it away on a good cause. Thats hardly a crime, right?

    *twitch twitch twitch*

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  6. Re:Congress by wprowe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Are you a US citizen? Are your parents old enough to draw social security, and use the medicare benefits? Do they use them? Have you looked at the cost of your parent's prescriptions? Could they afford them without Medicare and Social Security? I'm generally a fiscal conservative and opposed to raising taxes, more government, etc. I didn't vote for Obama. There are some programs that make sense, and these definitely help out people who need them. My mother-in-law would not have had the care she needed for multiple sclerosis had it not been for Medicare and Medicaid. She suffered from multiple sclerosis for 20 years. and was disabled and could not work for nearly a decade of her 20-year struggle with the disease prior to her death from complications related to MS.

    By the way, your figures appear to be incorrect. Remember that social security and medicare are "pay as you go" programs where what is paid in by employers and employees gets paid out to current recipients. It isn't a savings account for you to bank on later. According the Obama's budget summary, social security will run $696B (not $14T), medicare will run $452B (not $76T + $18.6T). That website you quote doesn't even provide a reference to their sources of information. I looked at the President's actual budget. Don't believe everything you read on websites that try to convince you they have "the facts". Always look at where their "facts" are sourced. My numbers are from the White House web page on the President's budget at http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Summary_Tables/.

    There are plenty of places where Congress should chop. Take a look at the pork barrel projects in your own state that your own Senators and Representatives toss in to get funding. Take a look at the numerous failed social programs. Take a look at the Federal procurement guidelines and how much it cost us to make an actual procurement. There are so many ways that the Federal procurement process alone could be simplified that would eliminate an enormous amount of wasted spending. For example, a private sector company can by $100,000 in IT assets and have it delivered in a week or two. It takes six months in the Federal government, and reams of paper. The larger the price tag, the more paperwork and time required to make the acquisition. I've worked in both arenas and speak from first hand experience.

    Also take a look at the money the US hands out all over the world, as well as the programs inside the US. There are great causes we should support. There are countries who need help. Unfortunately, there are also plenty of beneficiaries who should not be getting a dime but they have friends in high places.

    The Federal income tax revenue, and income from foreign loan interest and import tariffs, is tens of trillions of dollars annually. It isn't that we don't have enough money to fund the things we need. It is that we fund too many things we don't need. That being said, social security, medicare and medicaid are not in the list of programs "we don't need". If your parents are recipients of any of these programs, ask them how they would be impacted without them.