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8% of Your DNA Comes From a Virus

An anonymous reader writes "About 8 percent of human genetic material comes from a virus and not from our ancestors, according to an article by University of Texas at Arlington biology professor Cédric Feschotte, published in the Jan. 7, 2010 issue of Nature magazine."

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  1. Bible Code? by Gotung · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't this "discovery" sort of like the Bible Code? So they searched the human genome and found a bunch of "virus like" patterns. Any sufficiently large set of information is going to give you some matches on just about anything you search for.

    1. Re:Bible Code? by FlyingBishop · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you found a scroll in a cave that contained the book of John, would you say that it came from a different source than the book of John in the Bible? That's entirely different from rearranging letters until it says what you want it to say.

    2. Re:Bible Code? by 2short · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Any sufficiently large set of information is going to give you some matches on just about anything you search for."

      Yes, but not a sufficiently large rate of matches. If the researchers are competent, they can calculate what percent of the data would be expected to match their search even if the data is just random, and decide if the match rate exceeds that by a significant margin. The 'researchers' of the Bible Code were clearly not competent in exactly this way.

      As opposed to the paperback book market, Nature does not tend to print whatever comes across it's desk.

    3. Re:Bible Code? by Jhon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If I found a really big scroll in a cave that contained billions and billions of apparently random letters -- but somewhere in the middle of all that was the text of the book of John (or "The Three Little Pigs" or whatever), I MIGHT suspect it came from a different source, yes.

      Infinite monkeys pounding on keyboards over an infinite span of time would create the combined works of William Shakespeare, and all that...

      Certainly not saying that's what happened here -- but the GPs question/point isn't entirely without merit.

  2. Re:But I use antivirus!!!! by Krneki · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It does, but as a side effect you are unresponsive 80% of your time.

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  3. Re:Summary and article misleading by IronDragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Much like someone who copies the content of their old computer straight over to a new computer every few years. Repeat this process a few billion times, and you'll be quite surprised at the amount of sheer useless crap that just keeps getting copied. Voila! DNA.

  4. Re:Not surprising, given how DNA actually works by Gotung · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Actually I'm pretty sure 100% of our DNA is basically crap that only exists because at some point in the past it was better at copying itself ;)

  5. Re:Not Bad by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Unless of course it's the 8% that makes you bald as you get older, or makes you susceptible to heart disease or diabetes, or any number of inherited undesirables. Remember, things like sickle cell anemia originated as a defense against malaria. In fact, in TFA it actually suggests an hypothesis:

    "These data yield a testable hypothesis for the alleged, but still controversial, causative association of BDV infection with schizophrenia and mood disorders," Feschotte said.

    where BDV here is the virus whose DNA they were searching for in the human genome. There you go, if you're depressed, manic or schizophrenic, it could be one of your ancestors got a brain virus.

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  6. Re:Useful? by tomhudson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The weird thing is that research is now showing that a lot of the so-called "junk dna" is actually used indirectly. Maybe we like junk food so much because we eat what we are? :-)

    But this whole thing isn't all that surprising when you consider where our mitochondria came from.

  7. Re:Useful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The viral DNA that isn't conducive to death probably stayed in." -- There, fixed that for you.

  8. Re:Useful? by vadim_t · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How would they know?

    Hero of Alexandria didn't have trains in mind when he made his Aeolipile. It was used as a fancy way to open temple doors. Only much later people figured out a practical use for it.

    Boolean algebra was a very obscure branch nobody cared about until it suddenly became very useful.

    Lasers, IIRC didn't have an immediate application when they were invented. They definitely didn't have DVD drives in mind.

  9. Re:Ob. Matrix quote by jhoegl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ahhh religion, where changing flesh into bread and blood into wine isnt considered "witchcraft". Yet all other "magics" was at one time punishable.
    Hypocrisy, it loves religion.

  10. Re:What a crappy press release by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, 8% of your DNA comes from viruses that infected your anscestors' reproductive organs and were passed on to you. TFA is actually an interesting read.

  11. Re:Useful? by corbettw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am a pretty smart guy who doesn't understand the utility of pure research.

    One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong!

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  12. Re:Useful? by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The viral DNA that isn't conducive to life would have evolved out

    Evolution is a very noisy process. It does not assure that we are all maximally fit, only fit enough that all our ancestors managed to reproduce. The boundary of viability is people who are viable, but whose children are not.

    Viral DNA might be introduced to our genome as a side-effect of viral infection at a faster rate than natural selection can remove it out of our genome, even if it is harmful to us.

    And any benefit from schitzophrenia would have to be so significant as to outweigh the cost of losing touch with reality, which is enormous. Perhaps our DNA code for a randomized process that usually results in a healthy amount of creativity, but sometimes too much. That gene could be preserved even if it is deleterious in outliers. In fact the variability of gene expression ensures that genes advantageous in their mean effect are sometimes less advantageous, i.e. relatively harmful.

  13. Re:Ob. Matrix quote by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ahhh religion, where changing flesh into bread and blood into wine isnt considered "witchcraft". Yet all other "magics" was at one time punishable. Hypocrisy, it loves religion.

    And Slashdot, where every story about biology turns into an attack on Christianity or some other faith. Things were different in the Pit & the Pendulum days, but lately it seems like you attack them way more than they attack you.

  14. Re:Ob. Matrix quote by BobMcD · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The ability for a free human to decide what he does or does not believe is about as far from 'unimportant' as one can possibly get.

    You can be insensitive to it if you wish, but this is a thin excuse at best.

  15. Re:Ob. Matrix quote by pluther · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, because there's no real difference between pulling people out of their homes and torturing them to death and making fun of people's ignorance in an online forum.

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  16. Re:Useful? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In fact, back when lasers were first invented, people referred to them as "a solution looking for a problem". They were so cool, but for a while nobody could think of anything useful to do with them.

    Silly folks.

    "Insufficient awesome" is the problem, and lasers are the answer.

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  17. Re:Ob. Matrix quote by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Speak for yourself, I can hear God talking all the time in my head.

    If only he finally realized I don't understand ancient hebrew...

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  18. Re:Ob. Matrix quote by BitZtream · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, atheists don't 'demand' anything really. Atheists are generally pretty normal people, just like most people who are religious are normal.

    Nutjobs, who also happen to be atheists demand retarded shit just like religous nutjobs, they tend to be more 'scientific nutjobs'. And by that I mean that they seem to worship something they call science instead of religion, yet blindly ignore scientific method in favor of blindly believing what some guy wrote in a book/journal/website.

    Same nut jobs, different books, same ignorance, and as you are so quick to show us ... the same name calling and he said she said.

    Perhaps before calling someone a 'shitnut freak' for 'ranting against ' a religious group, you should consider not 'ranting against a(ll) religious group(s). Its cool though, you've obviously got plenty of angst to work out, you go on being mad at everyone in the world ... nutjob.

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