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Google Hacked, May Pull Out of China
D H NG writes "Following a sophisticated attack on Google infrastructure originating from China late last year, Google has decided to take 'a new approach' to China. In their investigation, Google found that more than 20 large companies had been infiltrated and dozens of Chinese human rights activists' Gmail accounts had been compromised. Google has decided to 'review the feasibility of [its] business operations in China,' no longer censoring results in Google.cn, and if necessary, to 'shut down Google.cn, and potentially [Google's] offices in China.'"
have some backbone and SHOW us that you can lead and not just follow, google.
exit entirely from that hell-hole known as china.
in fact, it may turn out that they need you more than you need them. wouldn't THAT be a nice thing to know!
more and more, I'm hating china. anything that hurts them is GOOD, I figure.
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"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
Seems to me like China has not "screwed over" Google in any way. An organized attack fails to penetrate Gmail, and gets e-mails from other third party sources for select individuals.
I'm certainly an advocate of freedom of speech, but branding China as "evil" is some serious overstatement. It's a country that has historically struggled with providing basic necessities and a reasonable standard of living to its ridiculously huge number of people.
It shouldn't be a surprise that China, preoccupied more with material matters than information, has lagged in catching on to the importance of intellectual property and freedom of speech. Google's actions are a good thing for both Google and China - they're peacefully protesting China's harmful policies in a way that actually may make a difference.
By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA did some similar hacking operations on suspected terrorists in violation with freedom-of-whatever laws. They probably just get caught less.
is even remotely comparable to that of the usa's, i could describe your thinking in certain diplomatic terms, but i'll just go with the more direct and honest route: you're a fucking moron
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of people die in Haiti due to a massive earthquake and we're talking about Google?
Get some PRIORITIES!
What a moment... Let me get this straight. You believed a company motto word for word? Sir, you didn't just miss the clue bus, the damn thing ran you over and left you for dead.
Turning to a Linux advocate for thoughts on Microsoft is like asking Hitler how he felt about the Jews.
An American student asked him what he thought about Tienanmen. At first we thought he didn't understand what we were asking, but then it became clear - he'd never heard of this event. The government had successfully kept it from him.
Have you considered the possibility that the event never happened or has been hugely exaggerated? Why would you? You are already so prejudiced.
The largest prime factor of my UID is 263267.
So you don't believe the IPCC's scientists then ?
Mini Ice age predicted, with 30 years of global cooling at least, co2 effect on climate grossly overblown, models in agreement with co2-climate link wrong.
Yet last week in Geneva, at the UN's World Climate Conference -- an annual gathering of the so-called "scientific consensus" on man-made climate change -- Prof. Latif conceded the Earth has not warmed for nearly a decade and that we are likely entering "one or even two decades during which temperatures cool."
The global warming theory has been based all along on the idea that the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans would absorb much of the greenhouse warming caused by a rise in man-made carbon dioxide, then they would let off that heat and warm the atmosphere and the land.
But as Prof. Latif pointed out, the Atlantic, and particularly the North Atlantic, has been cooling instead. And it looks set to continue a cooling phase for 10 to 20 more years. "How much?" he wondered before the assembled delegates. "The jury is still out."
Who claims this ? Good question : Prof. Latif, of the university of Leibniz, lead author of the IPCC last 2 global warming reports.
So you're, it seems stuck, if you assault this guys credibility, of course you're also assaulting the IPCC's credibility. If you don't, obviously you have to accept the conclusions "as you're not a climate scientist". So which is it ? Or are we going to go with the rotten apple theory, which of course would mean the scientific consensus mainly rests on a few rotten apples ...
But we all know what is motivating your global warming beliefs. And it's not science.
(and this is by no means the worst news for climate change theory, there is a revolution going on in thermodynamics relating how out-of-balance "systems" (like the earth and it's climate) behave, and it's very bad news : in the long term, anything that happens, including pumping huge amounts of co2 in the air, can only result in one of 2 things : a. nothing at all b. a return to equilibrium. If this theory gets proven, it is a theoretical proof, independant of any particular climate equation being right or wrong, that nothing inside the system can break the climate cycle that we're in, unless it fully obliterates earth)
Btw : I still find the IPCC a bunch of overpaid elititists with conflicts of intrest Obama himself would be ashamed of, but I love the situation this puts global warming nazis into.
When you do business in China, you're doing business with the corrupt and totalitarian Chinese Government - a nasty operation that has no intent of *ever* being any less corrupt and ruthless than it is now.
But when you do business in the USA, you're doing business with the corrupt and ruthlessly capitalistic American Government - a nasty operation that has no intent of *ever* being any less corrupt and ruthless than it is now. Half of our first ten or so naval engagements involve bombarding central american towns with cannon fire to force them to sell to United Fruit Company at their price.
You are either astoundingly naive, or simply a poor cheerleader.
The separation between any so called "private" business and the government (especially big business) in China is whatever the party leaders say it is at any given moment.
The bigger you want to get in the USA, the more handjobs you have to deliver. You can perpetrate all kinds of scams against the people and get away with it (AT&T, Microsoft, the automakers, the banks... well, really the people at the head of these things) but if you don't pay off all the right people then you get nailed to the wall (Enron...) And big business has overwhelmingly purchased a body of law which amounts to protectionism for their industries. The Mafia still runs various unions around the nation (The canonical example is the SF Plumber's Union) and frankly, the government is little different except in the degree of success.
And of course we know the upstanding state of justice in the Chinese legal system...
Can I kick a few facts yes?
Six percent in college
From livin' on the block
Twenty five percent in prison
The school of hard knocks
Fifty percent in poverty
Is livin' on the rocks
Five hundred brothers on the death row box
The punishment is capital
For those who lack in capital
Because a public defender
Can't remember the last time
That a brother wasn't treated like an animal.
Justice WHAT? Get real.
Dear corporate west, if you deal with the totalitarian devil you will eventually get burned.
Don't teach your grandmother how to suck eggs. The West is dealing with China to make money, and doesn't care how many die for our lead-painted Tonka trucks.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"