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Is RCA's Airnergy Snake Oil?

Ben Newman writes "Of all the tech that's come out of CES this week, nothing has gotten the blogosphere more excited then the RCA Airnergy. A lot of people love the thought of an ever-recharging cell phone, and the Airnergy promises to constantly charge its internal battery through 2.4GHz wireless signals. Neat idea, but as some commenters have pointed out the energy just isn't there to make this work — BOTECs for a full charge range from 100 days to 32 years. Plus, don't let the RCA brand fool you into thinking this must be from a legitimate company: RCA hasn't existed as anything more then a licensed brand name for a couple of decades. So what do Slashdotters think — real deal or 21st century hokum?"

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  1. Yeah, tens of meters from a 50mW power source... by francium+de+neobie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is totally gonna charge up your battery and run your cell phone for days.

    The inverse square law and dBm being a logarithmic unit can all go to hell.

  2. RCA by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 5, Funny

    Plus, don't let the RCA brand fool you into thinking this must be from a legitimate company

    Yes, when I am confronted with an RCA TV, the first thing I think is, "a legitimate company produced this."

  3. Ask Slashdot: Ten Minutes Hate? by Tsunamio · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure we can look forward to a vigorous debate, where both sides bring up excellent points. I certainly cannot say where the slashdot community will land on this question, and the article certainly doesn't give any hints! Thanks, Ben, for your valuable question, and I hope you find the answers both challenging and enlightening.

  4. Back of the envelope... by doishmere · · Score: 5, Informative

    Assume a wireless router broadcasts at 1W, uniformly outward. Suppose the charger has an effective surface area of 4" * 2", or about 50cm^2. Assume the charger is 10m away fro the router; then the charger can receive no more than (1W) * (50cm^2) / (4 * pi * 1000cm * 1000cm) = 4 * 10^-6 W. A Blackberry battery on Bestbuy.com claims to store 1100 mAh @ 3.7V of energy, so the device could charge a powered-off Blackberry in (1100 mAh * 3.7V) / (4 * 10^-6 W) = 116 years... I'm wrong, or the device doesn't work as claimed.

  5. Re:Yeah, tens of meters from a 50mW power source.. by KulSeran · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nasa HAS tried this.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrodynamic_tether
    You can generate electricity as you move around the earth. Being in orbit, you are going fast enough to make worthwhile magnetic flux, and you are free of air resistance that would keep you from deploying the tether if you were lower in the atmosphere.

  6. Re:Not so useful now, but has potential by tsm_sf · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...unless you want to cook the user holding the phone at the same time.

    Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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  7. Re:Yeah, tens of meters from a 50mW power source.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    A *changing* magnetic field generates a current. If you just take a coil with some wires attached, and hook up a voltmeter, nothing will happen. Only when you start moving your coil through a magnetic field will you start to see volts. (Earth's field is extremely weak, but with a big coil and a sensitive meter you could see a small current.)

    The reason this can't be used for infinite power generation is that the coil will resist movement. Any flow of current generates a magnetic field of its own, and if you do the math, it turns out that the induced current in your coil creates a field in opposition to the field it's moving through. It works against you like a kind of friction, or like air resistance. If you just give the coil an initial kick, it will quickly run down to a stop. In order to generate power you have to keep putting energy into the system.

    In other words, you're not draining energy from the magnetic field, you're just converting the kinetic energy you put in.

    This is in fact how generators work. A big conductive coil is spun around inside the field of some permanent magnets. If your generator is connected to a water turbine, you're converting the kinetic energy in falling water into the kinetic energy of a spinning coil and thence to electrical energy in a wire.

  8. Tesla? by MikeFM · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tesla seemed to think this idea was workable. Can't say about RCA's product but I'll trust Tesla.

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  9. back to basics by vacarul · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll get more energy with a hand-crank generator...

    1. Re:back to basics by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'll get more energy with a hand-crank generator...

      ... depending on which picture is in front of you.

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  10. Re:Yeah, tens of meters from a 50mW power source.. by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Frequency effects your ability to absorb the energy. I can only pick up NSA broadcasts on my dentalwork, for example.

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