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Italy Floats Official Permission Requirement for Web Video Uploads

An anonymous reader writes with some bad news from Italy, noting that new rules proposed there would "require people who upload videos onto the Internet to obtain authorization from the Communications Ministry similar to that required by television broadcasters, drastically reducing freedom to communicate over the Web." Understandably, some say such controls represent a conflict of interest for Silvio Berlusconi, "who exercises political control over the state broadcaster RAI in his role as prime minister and is also the owner of Italy's largest private broadcaster, Mediaset."

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  1. Italian Booty by Blasphemy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I get the distinct impression will be seeing a surge in Italian YouTube videos with a "Screw you, Berlusconi" theme.

    1. Re:Italian Booty by geegel · · Score: 3, Funny

      That or the sale of small metallic cathedral replicas will really take off.

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  2. That's insane by PenisLands · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's horrific. An extremely oppressive requirement. I expect that anyone who disagrees with Silvio will be denied permission to upload anything. This is also impractical, because you can't expect every single citizen to apply for permission just to post videos of their cat onto youtube.

    Thankfully, I think that this could be circumvented easily, by transferring video files to another country in an encrypted form, then getting friends in the other country to unencrypt and upload it for you.

    1. Re:That's insane by DMiax · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No need to circumvent for private individuals, fortunately. Our government is sloppy and has not thought of a single way to enforce this. It will be used against competitors to Berlusconi's TVs and against Murdoch's Sky, which is in the scope of the bill. Not that it is so much better...

  3. I need bureaucracy! by negRo_slim · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's things like this that make me lament the US giving up any shred of control of the Internet and related systems to the international community.

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  4. This is not new in Italy by Extremus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Some time ago, they tried something similar with blogs.

  5. Right... And you think this because... by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thankfully, I think that this could be circumvented easily, by transferring video files to another country in an encrypted form, then getting friends in the other country to unencrypt and upload it for you.

    You've never mentioned the word "encryption" in casual conversation with non I.T. related friends and relatives?

     

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  6. Re:Italy isn't a good place. by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is "unusual" in the sense that all the countries that at least pretend to operate under some sane judiciary principles do not allow cops to also become juries, judges and executioners all rolled into one, instead they go for the "innocent until proven guilty" ideal. Allowing police to collect fines on the spot is the very anathema of this, the assumption is that whomever the cop fingers is "guilty until proven innocent".

    Consider what happens if an incompetent or malicious cop decides to go after you: you get for all practical purposes robbed at gun-point and it is then up to you to run through the hostile, bureaucratic rigmarole to attempt to prove your innocence and maybe even to get some of your fine back. Most people will simply be cowed into subservience and the police will assume the role it ever desires in every country: as the lynch-pin of a police-state.

  7. Re:Constitution, People! by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Italy has a constitution which this law may violate.

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  8. Re:And yet, the italians keep voting for this guy by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > Democracy is the worst system except for all the others...

    Which is a good reason to have as little democracy as possible and none of anything else.

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  9. Re:Enforcement? by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > How exactly would they enforce this?

    Selectively, of course. That's the whole point of such laws.

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  10. Re:Constitution, People! by dunkelfalke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Paper doesn't blush.
    The Soviet Union also had a constitution. With rights for free press, free speech and so on in it.

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  11. Digital Mafia? by The+Wild+Norseman · · Score: 3, Funny

    He'd better be careful otherwise he could wake up with an ASCII horse's head in his email inbox.

    Push the Italians too far and see what happens!

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  12. from an italian perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    i'm italian. posting AC for obvious reasons.
    i can tell you that's funny that they are now seeking for an authorization for internet's videos "similar to that required by television broadcasters" when one of the three tv channel of berlusconi himself doesn't have the permission to broadcast. in fact, that channel is illegally occupying frequencies already assigned to a new competitor in the italian's tv market that can't broadcast because of this. i'm not so much up to date, but the European Union (god bless them to try something against our dictator) already gave us a multi-million euros fine for that.

    just for the record, the italian tv system look like this:
    analog transmission: 3 public channels (controlled by the parliament, so by mr. berlusconi) with an average 50% share, 3 berlusconi channels with an average 45% share, and 2 channel owned by the local telco giant (about 5%), one of which broadcast the local mtv.
    dvb-t: still not everywhere in italy. 3-4 more public channels, other 2 free-to-air and 10 pay-per-view of berlusconi, 1 of murdoch's sky, bbc world, france 24, and almost nothing else apart from a couple of local tv stations airing mainly commercials.
    satellite: only murdoch himself. also, if you count that the average income is 1200-1300€/month and the cost for the subscription to the satellite tv is from 45€/month, you understand that the average joe can't afford this.

    and remember: when you say that mr. berlusconi was elected so is how democracy works and bla bla bla, keep in mind this fact: when you sum up his control over the televisions and the control over the press (where he controls different newspapers and magazines directly and a lot more indirectly, mainly by _controlling the advertising_) you know how is it possible that a man bound with mafia can win an election. the majority of people in italy are brainwashed and for them is ok that a man had a mafia killer as groom (vittorio mangano) and as co-founder of his party a man strictly tied with mafia (a mafioso himself, i would say: marcello dell'utri). note: berlusconi and dell'utri said that vittorio mangano was a "HERO", long after he died and where everything about him was know. YES! they said that a mafioso killer is a HERO!

    also, berlusconi did some illegal wiretapping with men at the lead of the our telco giant (the one with the others two tv channels :blink-blink:) and now he pose the state secret on that stuff so they can't prosecute him or the men that did this for him.

    if you count that a lot of opposition to berlusconi comes from the video blogs of beppe grillo, marco travaglio, piero ricca and others, you understand how much in trouble we are. (well, actually they go against everybody, but berlusconi is so dominant in the italian scenario that he takes 90% of the time)

    now, can you understand that Italy is FUBAR?