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Blizzard Adds Timestamps To WoW Armory

Kharny writes "In a move that could cause serious privacy problems for players of World of Warcraft, Blizzard has added timestamps and an RSS feed to the game's online armory site. This new feature will mean that anyone can follow 'real-time' developments in a World of Warcraft character, which display the exact time and date, so that others can see that person's playing habits. Many players have already complained about the fact that there is no opt-out setting, and this opens very big possibilities for online stalking."

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  1. Cyber Stalking - Really an issue? by Poobar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Situation: I am being "cyber-stalked".

    Solution: Log off WOW.

    Solution 2 (If you really need your MMORPG fix): Switch to a different character.

    Why would a person knowing where you are in a fictional landscape ever be a problem anyway? Surely there's some kind of ignore button in WOW (correct me if I'm wrong, I only played the free trial before getting bored), so even if they knew where you were, they could... what?

    1. Re:Cyber Stalking - Really an issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      then... err. do your job? care for your kids?

    2. Re:Cyber Stalking - Really an issue? by thesandtiger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As someone who has seen a number of nasty divorces go down, let me explain something to you:

      Has 1 drink with dinner => massive alcoholic in divorce speak
      Spanked a child for running into the street => beats the children
      Hugs a child => probably molesting the children
      Has had lunch with co-worker of the opposite sex => has had a torrid affair
      Has had lunch with co-worker of the same sex => almost certainly having a homosexual affair

      So...

      Spent 3 hours over a weekend late at night raiding => neglects children, wasn't ever there for us, probably having an affair with someone online

      I agree, people probably shouldn't be playing or logging in from work unless their workplace allows it during breaks, but the point is that anyone who has an agenda and an axe to grind and would use this tool to support it will certainly also be more than happy to spin things in the worst possible way. Divorce lawyers are fucking NASTY creatures, and people going through a hostile divorce can be psychotic.

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  2. It seems by goldaryn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think there will be two SHOCKING REVELATIONS!

    1) Most people play waaay more WoW than they admit
    2) There's a lot of botting going on

    There, you're shocked now. aren't you! Hello?

    1. Re:It seems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I used to bot three toons at once. A couple made it to 80, and a dozen or so to 60. Mmoglider getting shut down is why I quit the game.

      Good riddance.

    2. Re:It seems by MistrBlank · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Someone please mod the above AC up for me.

      How can you quit a game you weren't playing to begin with. And I'm sorry but Bot players are the lowest life forms in the game. It's cheating and they need to get over themselves if they think it's anything but that.

    3. Re:It seems by goodmanj · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We're trying to play a fantasy game here, not Robot Battle.

    4. Re:It seems by brkello · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A bot is something that is set up to solely benefit the person or company running the bot. They are played at the detriment to others in the game. NPCs are designed by the developers and used to enhance the experience.

      They may both be run by code instead of players, but the intentions for both are extremely different. Over-simplifying it to your level is either done out of an effort to justify the use of something selfish and unwanted by the community at large (and not allowed) or just plain stupidity.

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  3. Asked for comment by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Asked for comment, the involved parties responded "Wait, you thought that information was private before?"

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  4. Re:Great time to stop playing WoW by GaryPatterson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've never understood the draw and allure that WoW provides, and why people get addicted to the point that they drop out of schools. Maybe I am one of the few people that is lucky and doesn't require simulation from an online fake environment to further foster my own mind.

    Most of us WoW players are casuals, dropping in for an hour or two each day that would otherwise be spent on television. The rest of the time we work, spend time with our wife/husband/squid/mollusc and lead normal lives. My wife and I are having a child soon, we're moving house, I work too many hours in the office and still I find time for reading books, sleeping relatively normal amounts and playing WoW.

    It's just a game. Most of us find balance in our lives.

  5. Re:Great time to stop playing WoW by Jorth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    WoW has changed a lot over its five years. I have been playing since day 1 EU, I started out with 2 real life friends leveling to 60, this was back in my 2nd year of university. Since then I've made many new friends from all over Europe, had one pretty successful relationship from the game with a Swedish girl (I'm English) she moved to England etc etc, and I talk to people from variety of places that I do intend to visit now that I have a job and money. I think anyone who is socially average can balance a game and normal activities. I make sure I am a member of a guild that doesn't raid Friday/Saturday, those nights and my weekend are free and I spend most of it out of the house drinking and doing the kind of things a 26 year old bloke does...

    Raiding originally took a lot of hours, Molten Core the first instance was a sprawling dungeon that my guild achieved Alliance first Rag on the server, so we were pretty hardcore back when no one really understood raiding (WoW brought in a lot of people that had never played an MMO before even at the begining). That place would take 4 hours or so to clear, 5+ if you weren't farming it. Then Blackwing Lair, and AQ40, and Naxx, all of it was very big, and very long. TBC cut the instance size down a notch with some more single encounter raids, and the shorter "Eye" and "Hyjal" taking much much less time to do.

    Now in WoTLK the first instance was Naxx from Vannilla, easy for any old player, Ulduar was more regular sized, Trial of the Crusader was VERY short (you can do it all in 30-40mins now even in heroic mode) and Ice Crown is being released slowly. All in all I raid about a quarter of the time I used to five year ago.

    Anyway, I suck at writing these kind of posts coherently, but my main point is, WoW has been probably the most enjoyable game I've played in 5 years. I laugh, joke, and chat about all kinds of things with real life friends who I drink with on a weekend, and guys I now know from Denmark,Sweden,Norway,Germany and even Greece. Some people will always have addictive personalities, and just like gambling can ruin a life so can WoW. But to anyone balanced WoW can be a great social experience and the game isn't bad either :)

  6. Re:Job absentism by Tim+C · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's a huge difference between staying at home ill, sat at my desk within easy reach of my bed if I need it (or even in bed if I game on a laptop), staying in the warm, and not having to struggle through a 90 minute commute, and going in to the office, being unproductive as I infect my co-workers with whatever nasty little germ I have.

    Just because you're not too ill to sit at one desk, doesn't mean you're well enough to sit at another.

  7. Re:Stalking a WoW player? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I understand that that's the popular perception of WoW players... but you do realize it's about as accurate, and kind, as 'lazy niggers', right? That my guild (of 100ish people) has only 3 or 4 players who kinda fit the geeky shut-in mold, and the rest are normal men and women leading ordinary lives? My mother plays WoW, and she's nearly 60. I can list off 10 couples right off the top of my head in our guild. Some players are casual, some are hardcore raiders. It's all a matter of what percentage of someone's leisure time they choose to spend playing WoW.

    Sitting on a couch watching TV is a less worthy pursuit, in my mind, than killing undead minions in WoW. But the stigma of watching TV is notably less.

  8. Re:Great time to stop playing WoW by Tim+C · · Score: 4, Insightful

    turning down social interactions to instead go raiding with their groups

    That certainly can be a social interaction - just because people aren't sat in the same room talking face to face doesn't mean they're not talking.

    an online fake environment

    What's fake about it, in entertainment terms? In what ways are other forms of entertainment more real?

  9. Re:Already possible by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are a lot of things that are "already possible", that are made "easier". It is known as the difficulty of a problem. I don't want to build a terrorism strawman so here is another analogy: It is already possible to perform voting fraud without electronic voting machines. All you need to do is gather your closest 100,000 conspirators and rig the counting process. Introducing a centralized software that you conveniently and mostly undetectably can modify just makes it easier.

    The fact is, making some things easier make things more probable and skews "cost - benefit" comparisons towards actually doing the thing. The example you use would require a WoW account and would be limited to a few people tops. The new changes can easily allow monitoring of tens of thousands of accounts from a single ip, with a few lines of Perl.

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  10. Re:Great time to stop playing WoW by thesandtiger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's scary, and you certainly shouldn't be playing these kinds of games if that's the effect they have on you.

    But other people are not you.

    While being a player of WoW, I have:

    Gotten 1 of every class, on both Alliance and Horde side, to level 70 (most to 80, still dragging ass on getting my Warlocks and Warriors to level 80 - they're boring), seen the inside of every raid, and even gotten the Lore Master (did pretty much every quest in the game) achievement when it was a little harder.

    I've also gotten 2 degrees, started work on a third, maintained a 4.0 gpa in grad school throughout that process, got a fantastic job at university, gotten promoted twice, been an author (and actually did the work) on over 20 papers, given god only knows how many job talks, been party to a dozen posters at events, dated a lot, found someone I like and we live together now, had a social life, and generally all of those accomplishments are VASTLY more good feeling to me.

    I have a sense of proportion, I guess - I'm able to make the distinction between wow levels & gear and actually accomplishing things. People who can't do that - you're right - they shouldn't play games like WoW, because clearly they can't handle it.

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  11. Re:It seems like you have been living 2 lives by david_thornley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Then here's a message for management: Sick leave. What's common in US companies nowadays is "leave" or "paid time off", or whatever. It is used for both vacation and sick time, and in the US there's a whole lot less than a European would expect.

    What it means is that every day you spend home sick is a day you don't spend up at the cabin in summer, or downhill skiing in the winter, or pitching in on a school project for your child, or whatever you might want to do when you're away from work and well.

    If I'm hurting the company by coming in sick, then don't make me give up vacation time to help the company. Make provisions for me to get paid by doing what's best for the company.

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  12. Re:Real Reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok, I call B.S. Nice troll, but I don't believe in the few days since this came out that you've gotten _any_ requests from employers. Even if said employers were interested, and all knew that you could hypothetically offer this service, there's no way for them to match a WoW Armory Profile with a real name. You say, "it's trivial to correlate email to character info if you, for instance, raid with coworkers," but how precisely would go about doing that? I suppose you might get lucky and have some mention their toon's name in company email, but I have a feeling that would be a rare exception rather than the rule.

    So, nice kharma whore. Stick with the truth next time?