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Offline Book "Lending" Costs US Publishers Nearly $1 Trillion

An anonymous reader writes with this excerpt from a tongue-in-cheek blog post which puts publisher worries about ebook piracy into perspective: "Hot on the heels of the story in Publisher's Weekly that 'publishers could be losing out on as much $3 billion to online book piracy' comes a sudden realization of a much larger threat to the viability of the book industry. Apparently, over 2 billion books were 'loaned' last year by a cabal of organizations found in nearly every American city and town. Using the same advanced projective mathematics used in the study cited by Publishers Weekly, Go To Hellman has computed that publishers could be losing sales opportunities totaling over $100 billion per year, losses which extend back to at least the year 2000. ... From what we've been able to piece together, the book 'lending' takes place in 'libraries.' On entering one of these dens, patrons may view a dazzling array of books, periodicals, even CDs and DVDs, all available to anyone willing to disclose valuable personal information in exchange for a 'card.' But there is an ominous silence pervading these ersatz sanctuaries, enforced by the stern demeanor of staff and the glares of other patrons. Although there's no admission charge and it doesn't cost anything to borrow a book, there's always the threat of an onerous overdue bill for the hapless borrower who forgets to continue the cycle of not paying for copyrighted material."

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  1. And the PORN!!! by tacarat · · Score: 3, Informative

    Voyeur and amateur stuff abounds! How they came up with the names like "National Geographic" still confuses me, though. Ask for that or the "medical journal" sections. Don't forget to wink knowingly.

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    1. Re:And the PORN!!! by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 2, Informative

      "National Geographic":

      National - its initial distribution was throughout the US, (since Europe already had way better porn), hence it was "National".

      Geographic - Only slightly cryptic. "Graphic" is right there in the word - I don't know how much plainer they could have made it. They are telling you that if you buy their smut, you will have the most graphic scenes you can imagine of African villagers gathering crops and herding cattle while wearing grass skirts and codpieces. The origin of "Geo" is more mysterious. However, given that NatGeo was initially formed at the Cosmos Club, a private club then located on Lafayette Square in Washington, D.C., it seems obvious that it is a nod to George Washington, who certainly would have approved.

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  2. Re:And they keep secrets! by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Informative

    When the authorities have requested copies of patrons borrowing records, the libraries almost always refuse to provide it without a search warrant!

    Actually I believe you'll find that libraries now tend to delete all records after the books are returned, so a search warrant is useless. Hence the publishers can't even find out who the evil 'borrowers' might be.

  3. *sigh* by Zaphon · · Score: 2, Informative

    What blows my mind is that this guy doesn't seem to know that Libraries just like Video Rental stores pay MORE for the items than normal retail. And I'm not talking a little more either, it's usually pretty dang ludicrously expensive.

    1. Re:*sigh* by mschuyler · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wherever did you get this silly idea? Libraries pay the same discounted rate as bookstores, usually in the neighborhood of 45-55% BELOW retail. Most books are purchased from Ingram or Baker & Taylor, wholesalers. If you do the math on this, it winds up that a million dollar book budget buys 2 million dollars worth of books. (Take the 45% you just saved; buy more books. Take the 45% you just saved; buy more books. Repeat until funds=0.) I supervised the Technical Services Department of my library (and IT) for 25 years, which included the book budget.

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  4. Re:will Apple be the "game changer"? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2, Informative

    $10-$15 ebooks are still too pricey.

    I should note that Baen Books sells eBooks for about $6.

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  5. Re:Dammit... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1, Informative

    You should probably read things before you link to them. The article makes no such claim.

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  6. You think this is a joke? by phliar · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here's Pat Schroeder, then the incoming president of the Association of American Publishers, in the Washington Post of Feb 7, 2001. She was interviewed at the meeting of the AAP, hence the "brie-eating mortgage holders".

    "We," says Schroeder, "have a very serious issue with librarians. ... Technology people never gave their stuff away, but now folks are saying, 'You mean the New England Journal of Medicine is charging people?' ... Markets are limited. One library buys one of their journals," she explains, pointing to the Brie eaters. "They give it to other libraries. They'll give it to others." If everyone gets a free copy, she says, the publisher and the writer and others involved in making the book go unpaid. "These people aren't rich," she says of those in the room. "They have mortgages."

    These are the people arguing against making publicly funded research publicly available. Here's the full article: Pat Schroeder's New Chapter.

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  7. Stop it. Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it. by Alistair+Hutton · · Score: 1, Informative
    Comparing making unauthorised copies of an item and lending copies of items that have been paid for is the STUPIDEST COMPARISON THAT CAN BE MADE.

    It's hair rendingly stupid. It serves no purpose other than to make people who make the comparison appear brain crushingly thick and who don't understand the first thing about the purpose of copyright.

    Just to sum it up for the terminally thick.

    Library: pays for one copy. Lends that copy to 1 person at a time. One copy paid for, one copy made. Making unlimited copies of things: One copy paid for (if that). Infinite copies made.

    So, just, stop!

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  8. Re:Dammit... by OldeTimeGeek · · Score: 3, Informative

    No disconnect. The book isn't lent out to ten people simultaneously - one person has to return it before another can have it. There still is only one physical representation of the book. In digital form, there is no real limitation to the number of copies and any number of people could have it simultaneously.

  9. Re:As a mathematician by ChefInnocent · · Score: 2, Informative

    You may wish to be careful banding about your knowledge of mathematics. There's rumor that the government may target those associated with the dissemination of ideas connected with the Al-Gebra movement. Members trained to perform subversive calculations of the Al-Gebra movement might be considered a threat to the government. Clearly the people involved in this line of thought do not think like normal people, and are a danger to society as we know it.

  10. Facts bout public libraries by mschuyler · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fact 1: Public libraries are just about the best return on investment for your tax dollar. For every dollar you spend supporting the public library, you get about $8.00 back in services. If you had to pay retail (or even discounted) for every book borrowed from the public library, that's the ROI you would see. Name another government organization that can give you a better ROI. (Note: You can't.)

    Fact 2: If you have a recession, usage of the public library goes up. Ironically, the library budget is subject to the recession as much as any other business or government entity. For most businesses, if traffic goes up, so does income. It's the opposite for a public library.

    Fact 3: If it were not for public libraries, many books would not be published at all. That's because publishers factor in the public library market in their decision to publish. Larger public libraries buy a given title in the hundreds of copies. There are over 16,000 public libraries in the US. The market is not trivial.

    Fact 4: Public libraries are largely responsible for publishers' 'Backlists' of older titles. Nobody else buys them.

    Fact 5: It is an established fact that people who use public libraries buy far more books than people who do not. Public libraries help create the market that gives profits to publishers.

    Fact 6: Research libraries, especially, are a captive audience for the over-priced, rip-off "scientific" journals that cost hundreds, even thousands of dollars a year that academics "must have." No individual can afford them. If libraries "just said no" those journals would fail in a heartbeat.

    Fact 7: Cutting off libraries is a stupid idea. It's cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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  11. Re:Dammit... by c0d3g33k · · Score: 2, Informative

    Quite possibly nonsense though you covered yourself well by using the qualifier 'often'. I recently misplaced a book from the library and thought I was going to have to replace it (found it later, so whew). I inquired into how I might do this - my plan was to find a nice clean copy at the local used book venue, or barring that, buy a new copy from a source that offered a nice discount over retail. My librarian told me that they would rather get the book from their sources and that it would probably cost me less because they buy books at a discount through some sort of consortium. I was surprised, since the "libraries pay more" meme has been thrown around quite a bit in the copyright discussions of the last decade or so.

    Info source: My local librarian. And my father-in-law has a Ph.D. in Library Science. :-P

  12. Re:Dammit... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 3, Informative

    "PLR is the right to get cash every time someone borrows a book from a public library

    You need to work on your reading comprehension. That statement in no way states or implies what you claim, to wit: "Libraries already pay a fee to the author each time a book is loaned out." PLR is an organization funded by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport and in 2008-09 received £7.4 million pounds in grant-in-aid, of which £6.6 million was distributed to authors. Funding for 2009-10 has been set at £7.5 million.

    It exists solely in the UK, every Author does not receive money even for books borrowed in the UK (they have to sign up.) The portion received by those who do is in no way comparable to compensation for "piracy losses" experienced when someone "pirates" a book by borrowing it from the library. Again, the library doesn't pay a penny.

    Furthermore, it is not necessary to take a book out of the library to read it.

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