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How Do You Volunteer Professional Services?

keefus_a writes "My wife and I usually take a week long vacation in the Spring and I tossed out the idea of volunteering abroad. Neither of us has a problem with doing manual labor, or whatever task is needed. However, I thought it might be of some value, and substantially more rewarding than our daily grind, if we could volunteer our professional services (I'm a network guy and my wife has a master's degree in counseling). The problem is that I haven't found any resources for doing so on a short-term basis. So I ask Slashdot. Has anyone ever done short-term volunteer work in your professional field? What organization did you contact? Or are we better off donating money to a particular cause and just working on a tan?"

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  1. Obvious. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Craigslist Casual Encounters?

  2. Church by jep77 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Find the nearest church. The leaders there will be able to help you find a cause.

    1. Re:Church by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      With the expected amount of bias, of course.

    2. Re:Church by MrEricSir · · Score: 4, Funny

      Addendum: if they ask you to take a "free personality test," you should try a different church.

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    3. Re:Church by jittles · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm just going to go ahead and shoot this down and suggest that you contribute your time and effort to supporting FOSS. There have to be plenty of developers out there who could really use your wife's counseling services...

    4. Re:Church by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You're going to find bias anywhere you try to volunteer, church or otherwise. I'd advise not to volunteer at a Christian church that showed bias, as the preacher is likely a wolf in sheep's clothing (Pat Robertson has converted more Christians to athiesm than all the athiests at slashdot).

      Take homosexuality, for instance. How many clean shaven preachers preach against homosexuality, when the Bible says not to make yourself look like a woman and facial hair is a secondary sexual characteristic? Pat Robertson is guilty of this sin. The truth is, God loves homosexuals as much as he loves anyone. None of us are perfect, and all are forgiven. A judgemental person is NOT a good Christian and any judgemental preacher is not one you should follow, or work for.

    5. Re:Church by dotgain · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh, you're forgiven, but you'll still burn in Hell.

    6. Re:Church by gknoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you're punished in Hell for your sins, how is that Forgiveness in any way, shape, or form?

    7. Re:Church by Temujin_12 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The truth is, God loves homosexuals as much as he loves anyone. None of us are perfect, and all are forgiven.

      All are forgiven? I don't recall reading that all people (I assume that's what you meant) are forgiven in the Bible.

      Since this will inevitably lead to a fire storm of misinformation about Christianity please first read the following basic and universal Christian doctrines (or axioms if you will) before commenting. Note that I use the word 'axiom' deliberately here (ie: they are given w/o proof):

      1. God loves everyone (no ifs ands or buts)

      2. God wants His children to become like Him

      3. God is perfect

      4. None of us are perfect (this is the dilemma)

      5. Christ takes upon Him the consequences of mankind's sins

      6. Christ is now qualified to redefine terms to return to God

      7. Christ teaches that all who repent are forgiven

      8. Christ teaches that He is the one who determines whether or not someone is forgiven

      Misinformation about Christianity can almost always be tied back to a misunderstanding (or ignoring) of one of these core and universal axioms. Different Christian sects branch off of these as primarily as they strive to understand and come to different conclusions about points 5-8.

      Before reading someone's rantings about Christianity (for or against) and making a hasty generalisation about all Christians, first check what they are saying against these core axioms (whether or not you agree with the axioms themselves). I've been surprised doing this how much misinformation is out there.

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    8. Re:Church by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Leviticus 19, verse 27. The old testament, in particular Deuteronomy and Leviticus, are not particularly friendly or caring, and don't seem to mind about a lot of people, and I see no reason why the naturally un-hirsute would be an exception.

      Of course, if you're a Christian or have Christian-esque values (and I'm assuming you have/are, since you're posting on a western forum about religious matters, and are calling it the "Bible" and not the "Torah" or "Koran"), you should remember that Jesus basically threw out the rulebook (although he'd have been executed on the spot for explicitly saying so and thus wouldn't have gotten his message out, so you have to read between the lines) - see

      • "Judge not lest ye be judged / Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"*
      • "Love thy neighbour as thyself"
      • "Ask and ye shall receive (viz. forgiveness, mercy, charity)"
      • [pararphased] "Stop being an overly pious, showy asshole"* (eg Lord's Prayer, poor woman giving one sheckle is more than a rich man giving a large sum)

      If you want to be a judgemental, apocryphal prick, then Christianity is the wrong religion for you (or you could take the tact of some Christians and just ignore Jesus' teachings). So basically, God's (revised) message is that it's within His ability to forgive you of the *mighty* sin of trimming your beard, and that He's not down with people giving you grief about it. /rant

      * These especially apply to those fire-and-brimstone preachers. It always amazes me how they quote old testament and Paul's Letters, whilst slyly skipping over Jesus' direct condemnations of their behaviour - I imagine if He came back, he'd explode with fury, Sunday-market-at-the-temple style.

    9. Re:Church by CannonballHead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know this better than probably most on Slashdot. I'm fairly well acquainted, in fact, and could provide verses for most of what you listed.

      "All are forgiven" sounded more like a "all go to heaven" type of statement. I don't think that's Biblical, which is ironic since he mentioned some extremely specific Biblical passages in his post :)

      Regarding "redfine terms to return to God," not sure that's quite accurate. The terms were always the same. God, through His Son, provided a way so that His Son could fulfill those terms vicariously/substitutionarily (I don't think that's a word... hehe). He didn't redefine them, He fulfilled them.

      Points 7 and 8 are the major issue I wanted to raise with my simple little post, though. Just "asking" isn't what gets you forgiven... repentance seemed to be a pretty big deal.

  3. Impossible to do with organization by emj · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I worked in Peru and Bolivia in 2001, and I say just go somewhere, most captials in 3rd world countries have multiple NGO offices, go there and ask. Network is hard since you will most likely work for a telecom company instead, but local universities could of course be glad to get help.

  4. just say no by VonSkippy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's just crazy. Take a vacation, relax, enjoy life. There's plenty of time (51 weeks a year to be exact) that you can toil away at that grindstone.

    Trust me, you (and your emotional/physical/mental well being) will thank me.

    1. Re:just say no by theelectron · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Trust me, volunteering can help your your emotional/physical/mental well being more than a simple vacation.

    2. Re:just say no by Idarubicin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Take a vacation, relax, enjoy life.

      Some people climb mountains on vacation. They're out in the cold, possibly getting rained or snowed on, sleeping on hard ground, straining muscles and risking serious injury. Yet still they call it their 'vacation', and no one argues.

      This guy doesn't mind the type of work he does, and he likes the idea of helping other people in his free time. While he's doing it, he's going to visit novel places in other countries, discover new cuisines, learn about different cultures and lifestyles, and have a whole office full of new friends who are glad to see him and want to show him a good time. The locals will know the good places to eat, the fun things to do, the little hidden sights and pleasures that you can't find in your travel guide. He can pull CAT5 during the day, then walk outside and drink rum while the sun sets over the beach.

      What's so bad about that? Different people relax in different ways.

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      ~Idarubicin
  5. Easy... by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "Or are we better off donating money to a particular cause and just working on a tan?"

    Yet a 3rd choice...

    Keep your money for yourself, and go somewhere NICE for a tan.

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    1. Re:Easy... by cerberusss · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, each has his own opinions, sure. And I enjoy my holidays just as the next guy. But when Mother Theresa comes in, and some dude tells her to take it easy -- that just gives me a bad taste in my mouth.

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  6. Your timing is suspect.. by bleh-of-the-huns · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Based on recent tragedies in Haiti. If your just offering to provide local general volunteer services, approach your local charitable organizations that provide those types of volunteer services and let them direct you.

    If you are considering volunteer work in disaster areas, please.. please, do not do it. There are professionals trained in those types of things, the last thing they need is for a group of volunteers who went to help out, suddenly requiring rescuing of their own. After the main disaster cleanup is done, and the areas are safe, then offer yourself up as a volunteer, but till then, stay out of dangerous areas.

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    1. Re:Your timing is suspect.. by raju1kabir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How exactly does one become a "professional" with helping out after a disaster? Sitting at home NOT getting "field experience"? Taking courses at university of phoneix in disaster recovery?

      You get experience by helping out in small local disasters until you have a solid understanding of the complex high-pressure logistics involved in dealing with major ones.

      Learning how to participate in the smooth delivery of massive amounts of goods, or in life-or-death rescue efforts, is probably more effectively done when you're not at a serious language disadvantage (or does the average couch potato speak Haitian Creole?) and being shot at.

      Sincerely,
      Former boyfriend of an international disaster relief expert who actually does know her shit.

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      "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- GBS
  7. with all due respect by FuckingNickName · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Every country has an excess of networking engineers, and the last thing people need during a disaster is Deanna Troi.

    Unless you have an expertise in food distribution/agriculture, medicine, or communication - in the first case, you are probably in the military or academia; in the second, Medecins sans Frontiers; and in the third, in the military or amateur radio emergency societies - you will probably just be excess baggage.

    Of course, if you are not just looking for an excuse for holiday and want to help at home, where you will actually be useful in smaller scale projects looking for locals, go for it!

    1. Re:with all due respect by spmkk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "...the last thing people need during a disaster is Deanna Troi."


      Really? So, in a place where thousands of people are burying whatever dead loved ones they're lucky enough to find, everybody will be just fine once the running water's fixed?

      There's some people over here who might disagree with that perspective.

    2. Re:with all due respect by FuckingNickName · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And if real world shrinks were anything like the ones you see on TV, you'd have a point.

      I agree. I was not trying to poke fun at the role of a professional counsellor (goodness knows I have benefitted from counselling!). The idea of someone being able to provide quick and effective mental health assistance at some international/interplanetary disaster site for a week a year just reminded me of the TV heroine image of Troi.

      Yes, an academic involved in studying mental health in disaster situations might suddenly be in demand for a week, but your general counsellor will not be. Perhaps there is a counsellor equivalent of ARES as mentioned in this post?

    3. Re:with all due respect by spribyl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually they do need counselors during disaster for both the rescuers and the rescued.
      I have a friend to volunteers with the Red-Cross to counsel folks that have returned.
      Would you believe even the counselors need counseling.

    4. Re:with all due respect by waferbuster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just after Katrina, my employer sent a bunch of us volunteers down to Louisiana/Georgia/Texas with networking equipment, laptops, and VOIP phones (all donated to the Red Cross). We were embedded into the Red Cross volunteer system, and transported and set up banks of phones and laptops in the relief shelters.

      People were able to call their relatives and send emails to let people know that they were alive and arrange to be reunited with separated family members. You can't imagine what it's like to see a mother who was separated from her kids when they were pulled off a roof by boats, when she finally finds out where they are and that they are OK.

      Remember those voucher credit cards that were handed out to help people buy basic necessities? Intel, Cisco, and Avaya provided the infrastructure, equipment and volunteers to issue those cards.

      One interesting side story: When we arrived in the Baton Rouge fairgrounds with our boxes of networking equipment, we found that there was already a trailer set up with network access for people to use. It turns out that a Good Samaritan had wandered to the fairgrounds to see if he could help, and noticed there wasn't any networking infrastructure. He called the tech support line for his ISP, and asked if the ISP could help out. The ISP tech support guy sent the request up his chain (in the middle of the night), and within a couple of hours the ISP had live networking available at the fairgrounds. The Good Samaritan brought some computers from home, and set up a table with computers available for use. When newscrews arrived later, they were able to just piggyback on the network connection. By the time we arrived, the network was running smoothly and with plenty of donated computers. Spontaneous networking!

      Unfortunately, the food situation in Baton Rouge wasn't quite as smooth... the big chain restaurant that had received the order for dinner for several thousand people decided not to accept the Red Cross money, but didn't bother to let the Red Cross know. The Red Cross volunteers started pooling their credit cards and money to figure out how to pay for dinner for all the hungry people. Talk about caring people...

      Red Cross Disaster Relief people are wonderful. If you want to be one, google for Red Cross Disaster Relief. When we were in Montgomery Alabama doing our networking, there were volunteers arriving by the busload. Most had only a backpack of personal possessions (soap, toothbrush, change of clothes, etc). These people weren't there for the money (it's volunteer labor), or the glory. It's hot sweaty work, dealing with stressed out displaced people, some of whom are very angry and frustrated. The volunteers were there to help out.

      I'm glad I got the chance to help after Katrina, and I hope to be able to volunteer again in the future.

      Thank You to Intel, Cisco, and Avaya for allowing us employees the opportunity to volunteer.

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      I'm an individual! Just like everyone else!
  8. Re:Answer by maxume · · Score: 4, Funny

    The guy at ______________ is gonna be pissed.

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  9. Geek Corps by spuke4000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not exactly a good fit for one week, but Geek Corps does this kind of thing.

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  10. Google is your friend! by Ed+Peepers · · Score: 4, Informative

    I did a quick search and found http://www.onlinevolunteering.org/en/index.html and http://www.volunteermatch.org/. I haven't used either, so I'd be curious to know if somebody here has and what the experience was like.

  11. Short-term volunteering by oldhack · · Score: 2, Informative

    Professional service is not suitable for short-term volunteering - better dig a ditch or something simple like that.

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    1. Re:Short-term volunteering by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We have a winner. Finalize, cleanup and close.

      By the time you've gotten in tune with the rest of the band, the gig's over. I'm surprised that needed telling to "professionals", to be on the blunt side of honest.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  12. it sounds... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    like your daily grind is unsatisfying.

    Do what you love instead-- that will be infinitely more rewarding to you and the world than working a "job" and trying to "do good" by volunteering.

    Find the thing that is right for you and focus all your energy into that-- good things will abound. You will not need a vacation, and your sense of duty and accomplishment will be sated. Plus, you will be doing the thing that only you are qualified to do-- the thing that you want to do.

  13. Re:Answer by Hognoxious · · Score: 5, Funny

    The guy at ______________ is gonna be pissed.

    I'm the guy at _____________- and I'm getting sick of idiots who can't dial properly.

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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  14. Get a tan by rbrander · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I like the one suggestion above, to just go and ask. Few organizations are as mired in bureaucracy as the head offices of NGOs. It's the field offices that may be able to come up with some work on the spot.

    Short of that, get a tan. Sorry, but there's no such thing as "intellectual day labour" - most jobs that use education require you to mesh in with a team, with an office environment, with a set of clients and problems. It takes a week, minimum, often a month, to be productive enough to pay back the hours spent showing you around, introducing you, briefing you.

    If you want a great story about the fun of dealing with NGOs, try this 3-screen Atlantic article on the lady who had the terrific idea of a co-op of Afghan farmers that would produce essential oil from their pomegranates for use by "The Body Shop" and others for high-end soaps. It involved purchasing, at first, a single hand-cranked seed-oil press.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200712/afghans

    My favourite bit on page 2 - asked to fill in a 14-screen spreadsheet with numbers on "production coefficients", the "equipment procurement, loan-repayment summaries, sales figures, labor costs, packaging and shipping costs, and cash-flow statements. It took me two weeks, full-time, just to fill in the cells with real numbers. And I have a master's degree from a U.S. university. I began to wonder how Afghan entrepreneurs would ever be able to negotiate such requirements." Presenting it to them at the end of the two weeks, she's told, the "...agribusiness team greeted the spreadsheet with a snort. "We don't need anything like that. He just loves to cook up these spreadsheets," they remarked of their colleague."

  15. You don't tend to find it because it isn't useful by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most professional type stuff requires longer terms. The reason is that often you are dealing with complex situations and a week isn't even really enough time to learn the system, much less accomplish anything. I think about where I work and if you can in and said "Hey I'd like to help out for a week," I'd have to say "no thanks" because you couldn't do anything useful. While I could certainly use more sysadmin type help, it'd take longer than a week to get you trained up on what we've got.

    Short term volunteer work is almost always going to be grunt labour type stuff because there's almost always a need since it doesn't pay well and it takes little to no training. Your more advanced skills aren't likely to be used.

  16. Have a vacation AND do something for people by osgeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Take your vacation somewhere where your tourism dollars will really help the locals: Goa, India (or just travel in India); lots of places in South America; Phuket, Thailand; etc. Skip big tourist drawing areas like the Bahamas where your money goes into the pockets of wealthy hotel and tourist industry owners.

    Stay at more modest accommodations. Spend your money on small local service providers, food providers, crafts makers, and so forth. Tip them well.

    By doing these things you'll stretch your vacation dollars farther, be more in touch with the local culture, have a good time, and help disadvantage people just trying to make an honest living.

    1. Re:Have a vacation AND do something for people by pikester · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Detroit fits all of those requirements and you don't need a passport!

    2. Re:Have a vacation AND do something for people by osgeek · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, you'd just need kevlar body armor.

  17. Donate the money IMHO by Liquidrage · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My experience, which is mine and only mine and so can't speak for anyone else, was that volunteering tech time was overwhelming.

    I volunteered to do the web programming and graphics a few years back for a small organization. The thing it's just like work. There are deadlines, pressure, unrealistic requirements, the whole deal. And just like real tech work, it's not easy to hit the ground running on day one as there's a learning curve to how they work and operate. It's not something that's easily broken up in 4 hour casual chunks just when you want to do it.

    I'd say just do habitat for humanity or send money or something. But don't try and be a network admin for a week somewhere. It wouldn't be fun to have you totally screw up their firewall on your last day before heading back to your job. Send them money so they can contract local services where someone is doing it as their job.

  18. Great news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Neither of us has a problem with doing manual labor

    Come by my place.

  19. Funny you should ask... by Daley_G · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just last evening I was approached by someone who has been *very* successful in starting non-profit org's, and asked me to "help out". Instead of compensation, we've worked out a deal where I can claim my time as a charitable donation (because after all, that's exactly what it is). That means that this donation offsets a bit of the work that I've done elsewhere. The charity is happy because they get "free" work, I'm happy because I get to do what I love, and it feels good to "donate". Besides, the networking contacts have already started to pay off!

  20. RedCross is a great place to start by techess · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've done volunteer work through the RedCross. http://www.redcross.org/ Like others have mentioned if you are just wanting to help a week at best you'll be digging ditches or sorting donations. Small things like sponsoring a blood drive or working the refreshment stands at a blood drive is very helpful and can be done short term.

    They've got chapters all over the world so they may be able to hook you up with a foreign "office" for something short term. They are a great group to volunteer with year round and they give you a ton of options so you can find something that fits in your life.

    You may also want to try http://www.volunteermatch.org/ I've never used them, but RedCross uses them as the backend for their volunteer search pages.

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  21. Shortsighted Thread is Shortsighted by Slipped_Disk · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Most of the rescue work to be done in Haiti is done - Finding people at this point is now recovery. At this point the range of "professionals" needed is much broader than you or the grandparent imply.
    • Medical personnel are needed for the ongoing care of the injured Many of those there now are volunteers, new volunteers will be needed when those currently in the field need to return home to earn a living.
    • Construction and Demolition specialists are needed to repair (or demolish and rebuild) structures.

    • Infrastructure specialists (power, plumbing, roads & telecom) are needed to rebuild what was destroyed.
    • Counselors are needed to help people deal with the shock, and in many cases tragic loss.

    For many of the people in those categories Haiti will be their first "real" disaster scene. Others may have previous experience and volunteer to help even though their "day job" isn't rebuilding nations after a catastrophic event.

    While I agree that people should only go into a disaster area like Haiti as part of an organized recovery effort I don't believe the "Don't go there because you don't work for [insert disaster group]" attitude this post and the grandparent take is at all productive - These organizations do not have the manpower or expertise to do it all themselves.

    Just my $3.50 as someone who has gone in after fires and floods to bring skeleton infrastructure up and support further recovery.

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  22. It depends on your goal by jeffmeden · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you want to make a difference, work the extra week at your normal job, take the payout on vacation time (assuming this is an option) and whatever you would have spent on travel, and donate the cash to the charity effort of your choice. It will go a long long long way.

    With one week's time, doing anything professionally is a major resource sink. Just imagine if you (or your wife) were to walk into a new job, where very few others really knew what you did, and asked you "go make yourself worthwhile in one week". You would barely be cognizant of the position's needs in one weeks time, much less provide any real benefit to them.

    On the other hand, if you want to merely feel like you did something useful, go fly yourself somewhere, nose around in someone else's business for a week, then up and leave. It's sure to generate some head scratching, but not much else.

  23. Desktop/network support for women's health clinics by astrix5 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a woman who can remember the dark days before Roe when pregnant girls "disappeared" out of schools and thousands of desperate women died every year from backalley and coathanger abortions, I know I have to do my part to help abortion rights. Since I'm not a medical professional and can't perform free abortion services myself, I do the next best thing and donate my time at local Planned Parenthood and private abortion clinics. The doctors, nurses and staff are all wonderful, welcoming people, but most of them know next to nothing about computers because the average abortionist is over 60 years old. Increased reporting requirements, insurance mandates, and electronic records means that computers are more important than ever and small abortion clinics have trouble even keeping their computers and networks running and can't afford expensive consultants and medical software.

    All this means that you wouldn't believe the smiles on the faces of abortion clinics staffs when I volunteer at their offices. My latest deal is saving them money on software by installing open source wherever I can. I live in a mid-sized mid-western city, and recently redid a local Planned Parenthood network. I replaced their hokey Netgear router with an old Pentium II beige box running OpenBSD 3.3 as a firewall (BEST release of ANY OS for a firewall, IMHO), and I even reinstalled the secretary's Windows 98 PC with Ubuntu 9.04 and OpenOffice and told her it was Windows Vista. (HA!)

    So if you want to put your skills to work for the greater good, call your local abortion clinic and tell them you can help with their computers. You won't regret it.

  24. Did he mention a disaster? No. by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did he mention a disaster? No. Did he mention Haiti? No.

    Your snide comments are not helpful.

    The poster wants to volunteer his technical skills abroad in an area with need. I'm sure there are plenty of places in the world who could use some professional expertise. You yourself suggest that he can help at home, but perhaps he'd like the experience to help abroad.

    Unless you have an expertise in food distribution/agriculture, medicine, or communication ... you will probably just be excess baggage.

    Really? The Peace Corp seems to be very active in building schools, hospitals and other infrastructure. They aren't excess baggage.

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  25. There are companies that do this by AmElder · · Score: 3, Informative

    The French have a word for this: it's called a 'congé solidaire' (holiday in solidarity?) which makes it easy to google. I believe the French government actually grants citizens the right to take time off to donate time to support economic development in select countries, so there's an entire mini-industry supporting this in France. If by some chance you speak French, you might try googling congé solidaire and see what comes up. I see Routard has a site about this kind of vacation. I know there are also Swedish companies that specialize in volunteer holidays abroad.

    English-language companies also exist that do this kind of thing. VSO in England is a large organization that arranges volunteer work abroad for non-experts (I mean people who don't have local knowledge or an expertise in charitable work). Instead of looking for someone who specializes in working holidays, which may in some cases be more good intention than good works, try talking to a volunteer abroad organization. You will be far from the only ones asking about short stints. Maybe you can negotiate something with them. You might be able to use your skills or you might not, only someone who has more specific knowledge about volunteer abroad programs will be able to tell you. Keep in mind that there's often a sunk cost for sending out volunteers, which is why there's more demand for people willing to make longer-term commitments.

    I haven't heard of any companies that specifically cater to the technically inclined.

  26. Re:Why Volunteer? by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd rather be robbed by a poor man than robbed by a rich man. At least the poor man has an excuse, and a reason. The rich man has neither.

    If I'm going to be exploited, I'd rather not be exploited by a Ferengi.

  27. Re:Try the Unitarians by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Religion is like politics; don't look at the church, don't look at the party, look at the leader himself. Illinois has had good leaders from both parties, and bad leaders from both parties as well. All denominations have good preachers and bad.

    That said, I think Pat Robertson is a tool of the devil.

  28. Doing service brings joy in life! by demerson3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Serving others from the heart is far more rewarding to the soul than anything else I know.

    The International Association for Human Values is a large organization actively doing phenomenal work around the globe with very little overhead, but they are little-known in the US. Disaster relief, youth empowerment, forums for peace dialogs, community developemnt, environmental action, and rural education are some of the focuses of the organization.

    I've volunteered for a few organizations, and I've found that IAHV volunteers are consistently not only driven and hard-working, but also peaceful and wonderful to work with during the day.

    http://iahv.org/get_involved.asp
    http://iahv.org/show_address.asp?country=United%20States
    (flash warning... some pages work fine with gnash)

    What do you get more of, the more you give away? Love.
    Whatever you decide to do, I hope you have a wonderful time.

    1. Re:Doing service brings joy in life! by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Ok, then at the very least...what about "charity begins at home"?

      There's tons of people in the US that would need some help...

      And if vacationing...spending your $$'s within the US helps out the local economy, and Lord knows we need all the help we can get here in these times.

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    2. Re:Doing service brings joy in life! by virtualXTC · · Score: 2, Interesting

      BS - Capitol-ism and charity are mutually exclusive values; spending money doesn't have any Karma value.
      Given the current economic structure in the US how much of the average vacation expenditure do you really think goes back into the economy?! Do you really going to wallmart and to stock up for your vacation (buying goods made in china) and then then filling your non-American car with gas and taking off for a week to stay at holiday inn and sip on Budweiser puts money back into the US economy, you might want to find out where those dollars are really going....

  29. far nerdlier than we had supposed? by jeko · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dude,

    You're posting on Slashdot. You're a D&D rulebook lawyer. Your sig is a Tolkien quote.

    Did you think you were just a little nerdly?

    Don't feel bad. I myself actually own a Star Trek collectible. You're in a safe place here, among friends. :-)

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    He put his boots up on the table and made a face. "The sig," he smirked. "You can waste your life in search of the sig."
  30. Re:Desktop/network support for women's health clin by FuckingNickName · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I even reinstalled the secretary's Windows 98 PC with Ubuntu 9.04 and OpenOffice and told her it was Windows Vista. (HA!)

    Is this trolling? You went to volunteer at random medical establishments and installed Linux on random computers, while lying about what you were doing? Seriously? And what do you expect to happen when a maintenance issue arises and some records cannot be obtained?

    Also, what about supporting your local adoption support group? I realise that it is not fashionable to cheerlead adoption, in the way that the right to abort seems to be celebrated. Do you realise how many more women's lives you would help if you did not throw every girl with an unwanted fetus into your political war by seeing yourself as liberating them, when in fact all you are doing is putting new emotional pressures on them? Stop misleading yourself that the alternatives are "abort" and "leave school and look after". Instead you could educate them about the thousands of families looking to take care of children and who often cannot have children of their own.

    disclaimer: this post is not speaking for or against abortion,just speaking against dragging those who find themselves pregnant into the war.

  31. ...your life and the fruits of your labor... by jeko · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And why does wanting to enjoy your life and the fruits of your labor make someone evil?

    It doesn't, unless that's ALL you want to do. We have two words for people who care only for their own needs and no one elses; infants and sociopaths.

    Here, let me look these up for you:

    compassion
    empathy

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    He put his boots up on the table and made a face. "The sig," he smirked. "You can waste your life in search of the sig."
    1. Re:...your life and the fruits of your labor... by electrons_are_brave · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can't help but think that "empathy" is the cry of the loser having lost out in their social wager. Almost everybody cares about their own needs--claiming to care for others is just an individuals way of trying to establish the reinforcement of their personal safety net in event of failure.

      Empathy is an instinct that, like many other human characteristics, is normally distributed. (sociopaths are outliers on this curve).

      So, there are two possiblities: you have drawn the conclusion you have because your empathy levels fall below the mean, and since you cannot experience empathy you have come up with a very odd definition (much like someone who cannot see trying to define "red").

      On the other hand, you may experience normal levels of empathy (e.g. you see someone fall over and you automatically wince) but are for some reason coming up with some rational sounding explanation which confuses empathy with some abstract cognition.

  32. Other names for collectivism... by jeko · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What you're referring to as collectivism, I usually call family, friendship and community.

    Have you ever noticed how lonely and miserable it gets in your Randian paradise?

    Take two worlds, one in which everyone looks out for each other, and the other in which everyone looks out for themselves. I don't know what their official designations would be, but the common nicknames for them would be "Heaven" and "Hell."

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    He put his boots up on the table and made a face. "The sig," he smirked. "You can waste your life in search of the sig."
  33. You're the one calling someone a sociopath by jeko · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're the one calling someone a sociopath

    Now, now, read what I wrote, I also allowed for the possibility that they were an infant... :-)

    You're the one who's blindly being ideological

    Actually, I'm being blindly experienced. I was 17 once upon a time too, and struck out on my own path as well, angry at the world.

    Now, I'm a grey-haired father of several and blissfully married for 20 years, and I can tell you, there is precious little joy in extended solitude. We're social animals, and while heroic stands against the mob are occasionally necessary -- and I've made them at the price of blood both metaphoric and real -- most of the joy in my life comes from my duty to others.

    If you're arguing that small towns can be myopic and hidebound, I'm with you there. If you're saying your high school is a hothouse and microcosm of all society's ills, I keenly remember.

    But gee, Darth Crowley, if you're saying charity is useless and that you are not your brother's keeper, then I only have one thing to ask:

    Are you happy with your life?

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    He put his boots up on the table and made a face. "The sig," he smirked. "You can waste your life in search of the sig."
  34. Living in the NGO captital of the World, Kathmandu by herojig · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Living in the NGO capital of the World, Kathmandu, I can tell you this: one week of work is a nice gesture but not particularly useful, considering the resources it takes to train anyone new. I agree with those that say just relax on your one week off a year. But another way to handle a professional service donation is what we do as an A/V studio, where we do one project per business area: audio, video, website, etc. probono for some needy organization. This is done during the course of our working time, and appreciated well by receiving NGOs. Good luck!

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  35. Re:Desktop/network support for women's health clin by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    disclaimer: this post is not speaking for or against abortion

    Just because you claim it doesn't make it true.

    I realise that it is not fashionable to cheerlead adoption, in the way that the right to abort seems to be celebrated.

    Apparently you do not. If you did, you would realize that no one is trying to make adoption illegal, hence adoption doesn't need so called 'cheerleading.'

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  36. OK, not quite following you, but... by jeko · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Tell you what. I'll give you the point. Maybe I'm missing the attraction of solitary existence. By all means, Jah-Wren Sartre, enlighten me. Show me the advantages of solipsism. Run down the virtues of extended solitude. Thrall me with the wonders of a life spent apart.

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    He put his boots up on the table and made a face. "The sig," he smirked. "You can waste your life in search of the sig."
  37. A cogent, valid argument by jeko · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sure. Your reasoning is sound, and your argument holds together.

    And if you honestly believe what you just wrote, and you're past the age of thirty, then I'm sorry. I truly am.

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    He put his boots up on the table and made a face. "The sig," he smirked. "You can waste your life in search of the sig."
  38. Crazy? by darkpixel2k · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...volunteer our professional services (I'm a network guy and my wife has a master's degree in counseling)

    You know...that might actually work. After I let some volunteer-for-a-week upgrade my network, I'm sure my boss will demand I have a shrink examine my brain...

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  39. Yeah, there's tons of stuff by jeko · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was hoping for something at a lower IQ level.

    If you're going to be reading Ayn Rand, then you're headed in the right direction. It's a philosophy perfectly suited to people with little experience with reality, like seventeen-year-old boys and pampered heiresses.

    The Cliff Notes version? She begins with a high-minded "Wouldn't it be great if we were all free and responsible?" and the entirely reasonable "The mob should not intrude on the rights of the individual." You then have to sit through endless dreary variations of "The Little Red Hen." It eventually boils down to "Frack you, I got mine." and a childish cry of "Mine! Mine! Mine! Don't Wanna!"

    The Randians love to scrunch their eyes, put their fingers in their ears, chant at the top of their lungs and stamp their feet when anyone points out that eventually, at the end of the day, you have to work and get along with other people. We're all standing on the shoulders of the giants who came before, and there's no such thing as a truly "self-made man."

    Not all sad, lonely, miserable bastards are Objectivists, but from what I've seen, all Objectivists are sad, lonely, miserable bastards.

    Taking Rand or Nietzsche seriously is pretty much guaranteed to ruin your life.

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    He put his boots up on the table and made a face. "The sig," he smirked. "You can waste your life in search of the sig."