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China Slams Clinton's Call For Internet Freedom

CWmike writes "China on Friday slammed remarks made by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton promoting Internet freedom worldwide, saying her words harmed US-China relations. Clinton's speech and China's response both come after Google last week said it planned to reverse its long-standing position in China by ending censorship of its Chinese search engine. Google cited increasingly tough censorship and recent cyberattacks on the Gmail accounts of human rights activists for its decision, which it said might force it to close its offices in China altogether. On Thursday in Washington, DC, Clinton unveiled US initiatives to help people living under repressive governments access the Internet for purposes such as reporting corruption. The US will support circumvention tools for dissidents whose Internet connections are blocked, she said. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu called for the US 'to respect the facts and stop using the issue of so-called Internet freedom to unreasonably criticize China.' China's laws forbid hacking attacks and violations of citizens' privacy, the statement said, apparently referring to the issues raised by Google."

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  1. Google and business by faragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Google, because etics, is willing to lose such market as China, could get a huge credibility and respect increase (kudos, Google). Unfortunately, I'm skeptical about it.

  2. Not answering the real issues by Jaden42 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Talk about a non-responsive response: "Our rules don't allow for hacking and violations of citizen's privacy".

    Considering the state of privacy there, they certainly aren't lying.

  3. Hillary Clinton's quotable quote by naz404 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I really love what Hillary Clinton said in the article:

    "Ultimately, this issue isn't just about information freedom -- it is about what kind of world we want and what kind of world we will inhabit," she said.

    "It's about whether we live on a planet with one Internet, one global community and a common body of knowledge that benefits and unites us all, or a fragmented planet in which access to information and opportunity is dependent on where you live and the whims of censors."


    Really lovely and Charles Stross-ian, brings a tear to my eye :)

    1. Re:Hillary Clinton's quotable quote by kdemetter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't like that speech. Sounds a bit "Ein Reich, Ein Volk" to me. How would Hillary feel about web pages that oppose her "global community" or don't particularly want to be "united"? Based on her political record, I don't think she'd want to see such things.

      Really ? To me , it's more like the opposite : she is talking about one global community , were everyone has the same access to information ,regardless of race , culture , language , etc ...

      It's a bit utopian , but on the internet , it is possible : one of great things of the internet , is that if you desire it , you can hide your identity .
      If no one knows who you are , they cannot judge you on your race , color , sex , etc ...
      They can only judge you on your words and actions on the internet.

    2. Re:Hillary Clinton's quotable quote by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Insightful

      a fragmented planet in which access to information and opportunity is dependent on where you live and the whims of censors."

      Yeah, it's touching... it's also empty bullshit. When ACTA comes into effect, Hilary will be pushing hard to enforce the whims of her censors.

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  4. Re:So when... by Jahava · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When it as a nation performs attacks on Google's servers...

  5. Re:Internet Censorship operates in the U.S. by mrmeval · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That is an amazing bit of conspiriakii.

    There is not references other that some buzz words gleanable from US procurement contracts. No phone numbers, no names, no websites and yet you manage to get a +2 insightful.

    I am impressed.

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  6. Clinton backs Google to the hilt by solferino · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Clinton also called on U.S. businesses, particularly media providers, to fight censorship in the countries where they operate.

    "Censorship should not be in any way accepted by any company anywhere," she said. "American companies need to make a principled stand. This needs to be part of our national brand."

    This is very strong language. Google is getting full backing and all other US companies are being actively encouraged to follow their lead.

  7. I'm Not a Betting Man... by Greyfox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well... yeah, I am, actually. But I don't bet against Google. I also don't bet against China, which makes this dispute rather interesting. A company that willingly turns its back on a market of 1 billion people risks having its CEO bludgeoned to death by angry investors. At the same time, any entity that willingly cuts itself off from google also cuts itself off from one of the most amazing information tools ever invented. If I had to call it, I'd say both sides make angry mouth noises for, oh, 3 to 6 months and then quietly settles on a compromise that allows Google to pretend that they're not evil while allowing China to continue keeping information out of the hands of its citizens.

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  8. Meanwhile, back in the U.S. of A..... by oDDmON+oUT · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The MafiAAs receive carte blanche from the courts to abuse their customers, Net Neutrality simmers on the legislative back burner, allowing vertically integrating ISP's to throttle traffic in cavalier and arbitrary ways, as well as allowing them to merge with content providing companies to "better serve" their customers.

    But we don't have censorship, nope. But we don't give American internet users that tube of KY which'd help it all go down so much easier.

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  9. Re:Finally! Youtube in China! by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    China has a long history of living under a protective hand, thousands of years. The US has a history built in freedoms in the last hundred so years and a resulting society devolving into anarchy and hedonism. Who's to say who's right?

    I daresay anyone who was shot, their organs auctioned off, and their families billed for the bullet might have an opinion or two. Its important to differentiate between the beautiful and unique Chinese culture which stretches back thousands of years, and the organlegging jackbooted slavers currently in charge of the country.

  10. Re:Finally! Youtube in China! by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't know why this is marked troll, its based on facts...

    Organ harvesting in China

    Organ harvesting in the People's Republic of China refers to the practice of removing human organs and tissue from the corpses of criminals executed in China and using these organs for organ transplants.

    Families billed for bullets in China

    In the past, capital punishment was carried out by a single shot to the back of the head at execution fields outside Chinese cities and families of the dead were sent a bill for the bullet.

    Slavery in China

    It's a story that has made headlines around the world: Slave laborers have been found in Chinese brick factories. The authorities have freed many of them, but some fear there could be hundreds more being imprisoned, beaten and starved. Some parents have begun searching for their sons on their own.

  11. Hacking and censorship are one and the same by TimTucker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From my perspective, hacking and censorship are one and the same issue here.

    Those who want to express opinions that the ruling party doesn't want people to hear are the targets of hacking. In this case, hacking is just the means of censorship.

    Get rid of the mindset that censorship is OK and you get rid of the motivation behind the hacking.