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Russian Whistleblower Cop Arrested

Remember the Russian cop's YouTube narrative on police corruption? Reader Max_W writes with the news that Alexei Dymovsky, the cop whose videos started a movement, was arrested (Google translation; Russian original) on January 22, 2010. He is in prison in the south of Russia. Max_W adds: "It seems only a president is allowed to have a video blog in Russia."

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  1. Re:Not final by jhoegl · · Score: 2, Informative

    USA has a law where citizens can only be detained for 24 hours without charges.

    This can be useful in detaining people highly suspect of a crime, or in TV shows in increasing drama.

  2. Re:Not final by turgid · · Score: 4, Informative

    The UK has a law where citizens (usually brown ones with beards) can be detained for a month and a half without charge, usually in HMP Belmarsh.

  3. Re:Not final by MarkvW · · Score: 5, Informative

    Bullshit. Mod parent way down. Parent is full of it.

    The US Constitution permits people to be held on a probable cause determination made by a policeman for up to 48 (forty-eight) hours. After 48 hours there must be judicial review of probable cause or the defendant must be released from custody. That's the Riverside case.

    A related provision requires the detained person to be charged within 72 hours of probable cause detention or released. That's the Gerstein case.

    The U.S. Constitution sets a minimum standard. States can set standards that are MORE protective of individual rights than the U.S. Constitution, but they cannot go below the constitutional standard.

  4. Re:In Soviet Russia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    In present-day Soviet Russia there is still no real police. There is Militsiya !!!

  5. Do not just type. Do something to help him! by reporter · · Score: 5, Informative
    The bravery of the policeman who risked his life by publicizing the corruption in his police department is remarkable proof that good people who think and act like Westerners still live in Russia. That he has been arrested and imprisoned is something that everyone on Slashdot knew would happen.

    Please. We should not merely talk and type about this tragedy. We should actually do something to help this victim of the Kremlin.

    For example, we could start a fund for his legal defense and possible eventual escape from Russia to the West. For the sake of humanity, we must not allow the Kremlin to kill him. The Kremlin has already killed too many innocent people.

    If this policeman dies mysteriously in prison, then I hope that someone -- anyone -- assassinates dictator Vladimir Putin.

  6. Re:Not final by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The US Constitution doesn't say anything about an absolute minimum time before being charged. Feel free to look it up, it is not in there. Court cases and Congress have determined the minimum time, but all the US Constitution has to say is that you have the right to a speedy trial (6th Amendment), that Congress can't suspend habeas corpus except during a rebellion (Art I, Sect 9), and that your rights can't be suspended without due process (14th Amendment). How long a person can be detained before being charged depends entirely on how these provisions are interpreted.

  7. Re:Not final by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/23/2799553.htm

    Two unnamed US officials say 47 Guantanamo Bay detainees will be held in prison indefinitely, without charge.

    They are reportedly too dangerous to be released, but cannot be tried either because the evidence against them is too flimsy or was extracted by coercion.

    The outcome will dismay civil liberties groups who hoped US President Barack Obama would end the practice of detention without trial.

    "The reality is that although they're talking about holding these 47 prisoners without charge or trial, the sad reality is they've been held for eight years without charge or trial," he said.

    "So it's not as if they're going to be entering into any new arena, there's no new discussion or dialogue. The whole talk about the change has come to America was simply a lie."

    The Presidential taskforce has recommended 35 of the 196 detainees left at Guantanamo Bay face prosecution.

  8. Re:Not final by digitalunity · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you haven't seen it already, watch this video.

    The Largest Street Gang In America

    I came from Portland, OR, which is sadly featured repeatedly in this short movie. I really wish someone could do some sort of satellite hack and force the entire country to watch this video, just once in their lifetime.

    People really need to open their eyes and reevaluate what level of force police should be allowed to use against non-compliant persons. The most tragic cases highlighted in that video are those where police were engaging citizens who had broke no law.

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  9. He knew what was comming... by badran · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you mess with the bear, you have to be prepared for the claws.

    In most CIS countries the police are corrupt. They have to be to survive, as their official pay is between 50 to 200 USD per month. And you need about 500 USD, so do the math... And you can see the picture.... Now if you also count the men in uniform who own cars that cost upwards of 6 figures "While making 200$"..

    Or this guy:
    http://tap-the-talent.blogspot.com/2008/12/judge-who-borrowedharvested-2mhr-2m.html

    Got the money via an OIU...

    In these systems the only people that are caught are the ones that are disliked by their higher ups, or the ones that turn out to be in the wrong time in the wrong place and then used as examples to others on the inside, as for the press-release the police will say "We are fighting the corruption..."

  10. Re:Join in the deadpool by posting below by digitalunity · · Score: 2, Informative

    You mean how like the CIA recently suicided 3 detainees by hanging in Guantanamo bay?

    http://harpers.org/archive/2010/01/hbc-90006368

    The article seems credible. No way I could verify it obviously but it has enough detail that I think it could be verified easily by the FBI or DOJ. If you could get them to do their job, that is.

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  11. Re:Corrupt cops act corruptly, film at 11 by johncadengo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Agreed. As the GP pointed out, this happens in the United States as well.

    Here is a recent story where a teenager was brutally beaten by plainclothes officers, who he alleges never identified themselves as police and he fought back because he thought he was being kidnapped. It is just horrible, and it won't stop until we make it stop.

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  12. Re:Not final by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Unless of course you're called a Terrorist. Then it's off to Gitmo with your ass, regardless of any facts or lack thereof!

    Wrong. It's called "enemy combatant". The patriot act was never *that* specific about those to whom it apply, else most people might not have cared so much about its unconstitutionality.

  13. Re:Not final by horza · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, if you fail to reveal a password to storage that may or may not contain information (except the government may decide to believe there is some) then you can go to jail for a very long time even without any charge.

    Phillip.

  14. Re:It's more complicated a story than it appears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Also Latynina is a "pet" journalist of regime, everybody knows. Nobody acknowledges that voices of someone like Elena Masyiuk or Natalya Morar' are nailing that Dymovsky's campaign is the most notable free speech campaign since probably early 20xx.

    Also I would like to tell why even when immigrated to Western countries Russian are extremely silent about their past. There is a reason why: they still fear that KGB remnants can get them even abroad; and in fact KGB (today's FSB) more than just able, they are killing people around the globe and second only to Qaeda and co. You need examples? Just google those: Yamadaev, Yandarbiyev, Litvinenko and I can continue this list for forever. All of them was killed abroad, on territories of developed Western countries on eyes of thousands people and cctv operators. And moreover this they are not just killing only famous persons who can really treat them, they virtually can kill any immigrant who has not ever been spotted in any kind of activities back in Russia just google it too.

  15. Nothing too serious by FilatovEV · · Score: 2, Informative

    Dymovsky was detained for making threats against the investigators, as they say. There's a criminal case opened against him, they suppose he stole 1,000 USD of governmental money while serving as a cop. Whether he did it or not, it's nothing too serious to be concerned much about him. Read in Russian: http://lenta.ru/news/2010/01/22/appregend/ Given the broad Russian fan-club of Dymovsky, no wonder the story appeared at SlashDot.