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Fujitsu Readies Lawsuit Over "iPad" Name

gyrogeerloose writes "In an event eerily reminiscent of Cisco's suit over Apple's use of the 'iPhone' name, Japanese firm Fujitsu is consulting its attorneys in preparation for going to court over Apple's use of 'iPad' for its latest computing device. Quoted in a New York Times story, Masahiro Yamane, director of Fujitsu's public relations division, said 'It's our understanding that the name is ours.' Fujitsu's application to trademark the iPad name stalled because of an earlier filing by another company and the US Patent and Trademark Office listed Fujitsu's application as abandoned in early 2009, but the company revived its application in June. Apple, which has applied for an international trademark on 'iPad' through a proxy company, has filed a number of requests with the US Patent Office for more time to oppose Fujitsu's application."

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  1. welp by poetmatt · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ipad as a name is about as bad as it can get for apple, due to all the jokes and the SNL skit. Is itablet also trademarked?

    1. Re:welp by negRo_slim · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think Fujitsu sees a way to make a little scratch and stick it to Apple, as lord knows the name is awful... Just awful...

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    2. Re:welp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why is iPad worse than Thinkpad? Or notepad.exe. Grow up people, pad is a perfectly fine and useful English word.

    3. Re:welp by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you paid attention to the Twitter feed when the iPad was announced, the jokes were coming from a lot of hot and bothered women. This is one area where they let their hair down and get nasty.

    4. Re:welp by adisakp · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ipad as a name is about as bad as it can get for apple, due to all the jokes and the SNL skit. Is itablet also trademarked?

      It's actually a MAD TV Skit

    5. Re:welp by Tetsujin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ipad as a name is about as bad as it can get for apple, due to all the jokes and the SNL skit. Is itablet also trademarked?

      It's actually a MAD TV Skit

      ...And a fine example of how dreadfully unfunny Mad TV was, too. Still, they get bonus points for the fact that Apple used the name.

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    6. Re:welp by MichaelSmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Another great reason not to use twitter!

    7. Re:welp by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Funny

      IBM’s Thinkpad sounds like an intelligent choice and a good product. Mac’s iPad sounds like...

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    8. Re:welp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's nothing 'un-fine' or 'un-useful' about the word, but around these parts a 'pad' is a usually a feminine hygiene product.

      Where the hell are "these parts"? The first thing I think of when someone says "pad" is a pad of paper.

    9. Re:welp by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 4, Funny

      News at 11: Not everyone finds the same things funny.
      Up next: Do different people prefer different colors?

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    10. Re:welp by khellendros1984 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm in California. The first thing I thought of was "Wow, it sounds just like iPod", the second thing I thought was that it reminded me of a pad of paper. Someone would have to say "maxi pad" or "sanitary napkin" before I thought of the feminine hygiene product first.

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    11. Re:welp by BitZtream · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People still watch SNL after the age of 16? Wow ...

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    12. Re:welp by GIL_Dude · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You know, I am sure they will claim that the play is on the "iPod" name. However, I think that they are really going for the iPADD name (PADD as in Personal Access Data Display from Star Trek http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/PADD). They can't make it too obvious I guess because Paramount would sue them. But when I see a slate form factor machine like this I immediately think PADD.

    13. Re:welp by mdwh2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The "i" is a lot more trivial and insignificant than "Think" or "Note" - not to mention that notepad is a pre-existing word, so people are less likely to think of the association.

    14. Re:welp by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think you're missing some context here. The Twitter feed I was reading was among writers and web comic artists on how to use the iPad for creating and/or displaying content. For writers, the iPad is in the same ballgame as the Kindle for ebooks and what that means for publishing as a whole. For the web comic artists, being able to present their archives or create a 24-page comic in near full-sized and color is absolutely amazing. I'm looking at the iPad as a portable writing device and a platform to develop apps since I was never enchanted with the iPhone/Touch.

      What Apple does very well - beside fleecing the masses of their hard earned money - is enabling artists and programmers to create content. That content is what feeds the need for every new generation of Apple hardware.

    15. Re:welp by Nakor+BlueRider · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ipad as a name is about as bad as it can get for apple, due to all the jokes and the SNL skit. Is itablet also trademarked?

      If you think about it, people said the same thing about the Wii, but the extra publicity only helped out Nintendo.

    16. Re:welp by WinterSolstice · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, and to be fair, they've been selling these things since 2002, when Apple was still making (just) computers
      http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Fujitsu-Fujitsu-IPAD-100-10

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    17. Re:welp by kaffiene · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just wondering... has it ever occurred to you that you might be a geek?

    18. Re:welp by dakameleon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Twitter can be used as a sort of meta-aggregate. I can subscribe to the EFF, slashdot, techdirt, boing boing, michael geist, etc. and get all the headlines on one page, rather than navigating through several different websites. when something sounds interesting, I click it and go straight to the article. It is a time saver.

      Back in my day, we had to use these rickety old things RSS Readers, and we liked it. Ah, how I miss 2008.

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    19. Re:welp by TapeCutter · · Score: 2, Funny

      "because men fear menstruation more than death"

      Yeah right, just like beards scare the shit out of women....

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    20. Re:welp by Anachragnome · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "For the web comic artists, being able to present their archives or create a 24-page comic in near full-sized and color is absolutely amazing."

      So Apple gets to sell you a home computer AND a netbook (with a phone you say you don't need) all so you can do what you can do on the home computer...well, anywhere?

      Looking at the specs on the iPad (and knowing what kind of hardware you need to do any REAL graphics processing...20 layers of Photoshop is going to lock up solid on an iPad), I'm guessing you're going to be doing most of it on the home machine anyways.

      So, you essentially bought Apple's sales pitch hook, line and sinker.

    21. Re:welp by stjobe · · Score: 2, Funny

      What if they put on their wizard's robe and hat?

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  2. Eerily? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's nothing eerie about this situation. Can't people say "reminiscent" without prefacing it?

    1. Re:Eerily? by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Funny

      There's nothing eerie about this situation.

      Well, there wouldn't be anything eerie about Fujitsu's lawsuit, except that their lawyer is a ghost pirate representing the Haunted Amusement Park lawfirm...

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  3. Really now guys... by Rewind · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hate to let you two know, but... well, that name is terrible. Then again iPod and Walkman didn't exactly sound great when they first came out either. WAIT! Maybe that is the secret of good marketing! A terrible name. Quickly to the iInventadrome!

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  4. Better name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple should call it "MacsiPad" instead to both avoid a lawsuit and appeal to female consumers.

    1. Re:Better name by odin84gk · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or skip G3 and use WiMax, so you can get the WiMax iPad

    2. Re:Better name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Apple should call it "MacsiPad" instead to both avoid a lawsuit and appeal to female consumers.

      It can be done. It will require some adjustments to their accounting. They may have to wait for their next period. Then again, you never know if it's that time of the month of their cycle and they can make adjustments the books without bleeding red. The shareholders would be quite crabby if their earnings don't flow as usual.

    3. Re:Better name by harmonise · · Score: 4, Funny

      Apple should call it "MacsiPad" instead to both avoid a lawsuit and appeal to female consumers.

      Here's the first commercial for it.

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    4. Re:Better name by sdpuppy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...and this is why slash dotters don't have girlfriends.

    5. Re:Better name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...and this is why slash dotters don't have girlfriends.

      no. I dont have girlfriends because my wife wont let me.

    6. Re:Better name by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe your keyboard needs an absorbent layer for extra protection.

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  5. Apple should let Fujitsu have it... by Sebilrazen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and spin this as a terrible loss, which will unfortunately cause them to come up with a better name.

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    1. Re:Apple should let Fujitsu have it... by null8 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      iMad fits the bill perfectly, or is it already taken? ;)

  6. Moses has dibs on the Tablet... by genghisjahn · · Score: 5, Funny

    As in stone tablets for all you FSM heretics that never went to Sunday school. However, even with a young earth, it should have entered the public domain by now.

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    1. Re:Moses has dibs on the Tablet... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Moses didn't go to Sunday School either, he kept Sabbath. Sunday Heretics hmmmph

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    2. Re:Moses has dibs on the Tablet... by icannotthinkofaname · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Sabbath is from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday.

      Moses could totally have gone to Sunday School.

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    3. Re:Moses has dibs on the Tablet... by TapeCutter · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think Mosses "lost it" when he started talking to a bushfire.

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  7. iPadMax by fatherjoecode · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd advise Fujitsu to drop it altogether. Given all the jokes going around about Maxi-iPads I'm still trying to get my head around the fact that these marketing dweeds thought that it was a good name. When the presentation was made wasn't there at least one snarky employee in the back snickering?

    1. Re:iPadMax by repetty · · Score: 2, Interesting

      iPad is a great name.

      But we don't have to debate it... in two years we'll know for sure. I think that everyone will have forgotten all about sanitary napkins reference by then.

      Even if you remember the whole iPad/Maxi-Pad thing, when you bring it up everyone around you will tell you how you're getting old.

      Two years is an awfully long time, nowadays.

  8. Apple please change the name... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't think I'm manly enough to appear in public with the iPad for Women. In fact, I might sue Apple for reminding me of my childhood trauma of being dragged into that particular aisle of the grocery store by my mother.

    1. Re:Apple please change the name... by IANAAC · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I might sue Apple for reminding me of my childhood trauma of being dragged into that particular aisle of the grocery store by my mother.

      I take it you're not married.

    2. Re:Apple please change the name... by Kral_Blbec · · Score: 5, Funny

      You are really worried about appearing manly while using an Apple product? Kind of a lost cause at that point anyway.

    3. Re:Apple please change the name... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So I take it you're not going to buy the (Product) RED special edition iPad?

      It'll only be available for purchase during the gibbous moon.

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    4. Re:Apple please change the name... by ClosedSource · · Score: 4, Funny

      "It's a win-win."

      Until you roll over in bed some morning and wonder what the hell that sticky red stuff is on your face.

    5. Re:Apple please change the name... by drkim · · Score: 2, Funny

      Right on Nimey!!

      And some of us are mature and secure enough in our raw, testosterone-gushing, brutal, masculinity to not give a shit if someone sees us out in public carrying a purse full of tampons and pads, while wearing a chiffon tiered, floral print, summer dress with a crisp white cotton bandeau and delicate lace trim. That's how gawdamm masculine we are!!

      ...or is that TMI?

  9. Double trademark trolls! by Kral_Blbec · · Score: 2, Insightful

    earlier filing by another company

    So what we have is ACME Inc that isnt even named files a trademark on "iPad" knowing full well that Apple prefixes all their products with an i. They do this on the off chance that Apple ever comes out with an "iPad" and they would be able to sue for big bucks. Fujitsu realizes the same thing and tries to put their own trademark on "iPad", but is blocked because someone else already owns it. Now Apple announces a real iPad and Fujitsu is pissed because they don't really own the trademark yet but want sue someone, and ACME Inc hasn't said anything about the trademark that they already own.
    gotta love patent/trademark squatters.

    1. Re:Double trademark trolls! by loftwyr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      From the article... Fujitsu, which applied for an iPad trademark in 2003

      Intel also used to try to keep the lower case i as their own trademark (as is i386, i486, etc.) before Apple launched the iPod.

      Apple doesn't own the legal or moral rights to the lower case i prefix, they weren't even the first to use it.

    2. Re:Double trademark trolls! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      It also makes more sense for intel to use it considering their name beings with that letter.

      I don't even want to know what the iBM is.

    3. Re:Double trademark trolls! by residieu · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you'd read the story, you'd see there is a Fujitsu iPad, so sounds like they've got a chance.

    4. Re:Double trademark trolls! by ukyoCE · · Score: 4, Informative

      Story? Huh? You mean the summary right?

      Ok ok, yeah, it looks like there is actually a Fujitsu iPad that is indeed close enough in function to be a conflict with the Apple tablet:

      http://www.currentdirections.com/hardware/fujitsu/ipad100.html

      Wonder how Apple managed to miss something that obvious?

    5. Re:Double trademark trolls! by mdwh2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If they use such a trivial and obvious naming scheme, that's their own fault.

      And this is a good thing for trademarks to work this way. We allow existing words, and trivial variations of them, to be trademarks, but it is good to have a deterrent against companies doing this in such a broad and systematic matter.

    6. Re:Double trademark trolls! by drkim · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Come to think of it...

      The use of 'Apple' by Apple Computer was first challenged as trademark infringement by the Beatles 'Apple Corps' back in 1978.

      They finally allowed Apple Computer to use it for a cash payoff and a promise that Apple Computer would never get into the music distribution business... something that Apple Computer has never...DOH!

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer

  10. Am I the only one? by __aagmrb7289 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Am I the only person who sees this as an excellent opportunity for Apple to ditch the unfortunate moniker and go with something like iSlate? I mean, they can even deliver a bunch of moralizing over the thing. And yes, it'll cost them - but it's going to cost them to keep the iPad too - people are making more fun of the name then they are paying attention to the shiny lights of the product.

    1. Re:Am I the only one? by CorporateSuit · · Score: 2, Interesting

      After Nintendo's success with the Wii, I'm not surprised they would go for such an embarrassing name for their product. I'm just nervous about where the future is taking us.

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    2. Re:Am I the only one? by nedlohs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Making fun of it involves telling people about it.

      The number of people who wouldn't buy one because of the name is vanishingly small.

      So benefits far outweigh costs.

    3. Re:Am I the only one? by Translation+Error · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Am I the only person who sees this as an excellent opportunity for Apple to ditch the unfortunate moniker and go with something like iSlate?

      Yes, no one could ever come up with jokes for that name. Especially not if something related to the product is delayed.

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    4. Re:Am I the only one? by Camann · · Score: 3, Funny

      Okay, iPoop is coming out.

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    5. Re:Am I the only one? by repetty · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The number of people who wouldn't buy one because of the name is vanishingly small.

      If the product is good, that number will be zero. If the product is no good and fails, pundits will write for years about how the name killed it. Such is historical revisionism.

    6. Re:Am I the only one? by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's true, but I think a good name can get people to talk about it just as much as a making fun of a bad name. Remember squirting songs at each other using your Zune? Arguably, people who failed to see the benefits of squirting at each other did so not because of the name, but because the feature itself was pretty much crippled and you had a hard time finding other zune owners to with which to squirt. I don't think it helped their case to build mind-share however that doing a google search for squirting reveals some results that aren't completely safe for work. It crossed the line between making fun of it over to something you wouldn't really feel comfortable describing to your mother. I think a better name would have done just as well, e.g. people talked quite a bit about the kindle but weren't making fun of it.

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  11. Mom?! Is That You?? by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 3, Funny

    How many times has dad told you that you mustn't drink and post on slashdot...?

  12. Dear Steve Jobs, by yttrstein · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Let them have it. Seriously. You don't want to be remembered forever for the creation of the most annoying feminine hygiene meme in the universe.

  13. iFlatThingWithoutAKeyboard by jgagnon · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm pretty sure that name is available.

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    1. Re:iFlatThingWithoutAKeyboard by godrik · · Score: 2, Insightful

      even better iDontCare

    2. Re:iFlatThingWithoutAKeyboard by rev_sanchez · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If the little iPod is the nano (1 billionth) then this new big one should be: iPod Giga.

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    3. Re:iFlatThingWithoutAKeyboard by Firedog · · Score: 2, Funny

      Personally, I would go with iPad Maxi. And I do mean personally. If, that is, I didn't have a Y chromosome.

    4. Re:iFlatThingWithoutAKeyboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      iDiot should be too available

  14. The distance some go to defend Apple by linumax · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bullshit! MagTek has an IPAD product, and has filed the trademark in 2000 which was later granted and then extended several times. Even Fujitus was and is after the name for their product much longer than Apple.

    knowing full well that Apple prefixes all their products with an i

    Apple doesn't own "iX" and it shouldn't get any special treatment. If it wants a trademark then should apply for it like everyone else. In this case it's late to the game, in fact too late.

  15. iCandy by macintard · · Score: 2, Funny

    How about they just label all of their products iCandy?

  16. About the cows and chickens... by Tetsujin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pity the cows and chickens.

    Supercow AL RESCATE!

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  17. Name Change ‘Not That Big of a Deal’ S by amasiancrasian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Change your apps name. Not that big of a deal.

    Steve

    Sent from my iPhone

    From Wired

  18. Star Trek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fujitsu? Heck, I'm still waiting for the lawsuit from Paramount/CBS.

  19. Canadian Apple Stores use the Fujitsu iPad by Steve+Newall · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's interesting that in the Canadian Apple Stores, the sales assistants use the Fujitsu iPad http://solutions.us.fujitsu.com/downloads/retail/DS_IPAD.pdf if you wish to pay by credit card and have your receipt e-mailed to you (you don't need to line up at a cashier)

  20. Crowdsourcing new name by KumquatOfSolace · · Score: 3, Funny

    iScry
    iPon
    iBigger
    iViddy
    iDiddy
    iWantOne
    iCantBelieveItsNotActuallyUsefulForAnything
    iDroppedItLikeTwoDaysAfterIBoughtIt
    iThinkItLooksGreatOnMyCoffeeTable
    iBoughtANewCoffeeTableJustForIt

  21. On Lawsuits by ALeader71 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You can always tell a company's relevance by the lawsuits they file.

    There's this one.
    Microsoft vs TomTom over FAT
    Apple vs Microsoft over the use of a GUI. Not their finest moment, foretold years of problems for Apple.

    I could go on, but slashdot readers know the score.

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  22. Re:iWhale maybe? by Terrasque · · Score: 2, Interesting

    iMoby - and I'm half serious about that suggestion..

    http://www.computer-dictionary-online.org/moby.htm?q=moby

    Would probably be too hard to grok for the plebs, though

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  23. You're missing a rather important wrinkle... by itsdapead · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bullshit! MagTek has an IPAD product

    Now look closer. The MagTek device in your link is a point-of-sale card swipe terminal, presumably sold mainly to the retail industry.

    Now look at TFA. The Fujitsu iPad is a point-of-sale card-swipe terminal sold mainly to the retail industry.

    The Apple iPad, meanwhile, is a consumer appliance, conspicuously lacking a card-swipe device and is not primarily targeted at the point-of-sale market.

    Or, in other words, MagTek have Fujitsu banged to rights for infringing their trademark, whereas Apple have a strong argument that they're not operating in the same market.

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    1. Re:You're missing a rather important wrinkle... by idlemachine · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or, in other words, MagTek have Fujitsu banged to rights for infringing their trademark, whereas Apple have a strong argument that they're not operating in the same market.

      That certainly didn't stop Apple going after Woolworth's in Australia for trademark infringement, despite the latter being a supermarket chain. Although Woolworth's doesn't sell computers, Apple claimed that they someday might.

      Claiming protection from potential infringement while failing to do due diligence in assessing the availability of a trademark before using it? Either Apple's totally taking the piss or the company has a delusional sense of entitlement.

  24. Re:CALL IT WHAT IT IS: TAMPON by JohnBailey · · Score: 2

    I thought the iTampon was the name of the coming wearable computer.

    No.. That would be the SUPPOSiTORY

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  25. LIES! by maliqua · · Score: 2, Funny

    apple would never infringe on someone else's patent

  26. Re:There are lots of appropriate names available by scdeimos · · Score: 2, Funny

    iPaid, iPedo, iPiss, iPoor, iPuke, iScab, iShit, iSlug, iSpit, iSuck, ...

    I can't believe you missed iPood ... there's even a T-Shirt!

  27. A tech-savy luddite by TapeCutter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I find myself agreeing with you and the post you were replying to. Personally, I don't use twitter, in fact I haven't had a mobile phone for the last 5yrs by choice and I have never been interested in having a personal web page. Not having a mobile phone tends to piss other people off much more than it inconviences me. I enjoy walking out the front door and being "offline", possibly because I'm an old fart and that's just the way the world was up until I was in my 30's.

    I'm a software engineer with a CS degree and a head full of geeky science trivia. My adult kids think I'm a bit of a paradox, a tech-savy luddite one might say.

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  28. Re:use should be required by Urza9814 · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.currentdirections.com/hardware/fujitsu/ipad100.html ...What were you saying?

    [note that I didn't find that link myself, someone else had already posted it several comments up from yours]