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NASA Picks 5 Firms To Work On LEO Tech

Posted by timothy on from the quasi-private-at-best dept.

Gary W. Longsine writes "Five contracts have been awarded by NASA today, to firms exploring different aspects of the effort to develop a private launch industry for people to low earth orbit. Today's winners include: Sierra Nevada Corp (aka 'SpaceDev') for the Dream Chaser; Boeing in cooperation with Bigelow on a capsule design; United Launch Alliance (Boeing and Lockheed Martin) to explore safety issues related to upgrading Atlas and Delta rockets to human flight safety standards; Blue Origin to build a launch escape system; and Paragon Space Development Corp for 'air vitalization' (aka life support). Will the forecast $6 Billion allocation over five years be enough to inspire private industry to develop not one, but two human rated launch systems (a capsule, and the lifting body Dream Chaser)? NASA clearly wants competition in the private market, so they seek more than one vendor."

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  1. Same wolf different clothing by assemblerex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Billion dollar companies will buy up these small entities and we'll be back to $2billion launches in no time...

    1. Re:Same wolf different clothing by khallow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Billion dollar companies will buy up these small entities and we'll be back to $2billion launches in no time...

      And the people that created a new launch business are amply rewarded. Existence of an exit strategy, even if it's just getting bought out by a big player trying to maintain an oligopoly, is a necessary precondition for venture capital funding.

    2. Re:Same wolf different clothing by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Just so.

      Competition would have been offering two (or three or four or more) companies contracts for each general category of hardware (launcher, capsule, etc).

      Picking one company for each piece of hardware is just handing money to someone and saying "Please don't just piss this money away on hookers and coke!".

      Alternatively, of course, they could have done it the way the military does it - release the specs, allow anyone to enter a design, and hold trials. The design that wins, gets the contract.

      Or the way that the military handles big-ticket items - same as above, but pay for development of the two or three most promising designs, then hold the trials.

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  2. Re:LEO by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Informative

    Unless you're talking about space, where it is usually associated with Low Earth Orbit.

    If there were only some contextual clue as to which acronym expansion was appropriate. If only...

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  3. Re:LEO by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 3, Funny

    But what about times where one is talking about police operations in space? How will we get our LEOs into LEO?

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  4. That was the Falcon 1 by mosb1000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You mean Falcon 1. Right now Space X is working on the Falcon 9 for launch this year. They are working with much smaller $ amounts than these 5 companies, but they're not working on human launches either.

    I agree that it would be need to see a man-rated version of the F9, but I think NASA wants to focus on rockets that are available now rather than rockets that aren't yet available.

    1. Re:That was the Falcon 1 by camperdave · · Score: 4, Informative

      Um... The Falcon 9 is being assembled at Cape Canaveral right now, in preparation for it's first launch in early March. It was designed as a crew lift vehicle from the outset, so it is "man-rated".

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    2. Re:That was the Falcon 1 by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Interesting

      NASA has made no such choice, and Falcon 9/Dragon have been built to all published NASA man-rating standards. The problem is, NASA is perfectly willing to publish more standards later if they see fit. Ya know how developing software with incomplete specifications is hard? Try rockets.

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  5. Re:LEO by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 4, Funny

    Talking about space could also mean Astrology. As a Gemini, I find that this Leo favoritism to be very distasteful. :-)

  6. SpaceX already has NASA contracts by pavon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They were already given a contract to develop the Falcon and Dragon for use with delivering cargo to the ISS. See this (now out of date) wikipedia entry on NASA's COTS program for more information.

    Right now the Delta and Atlas rocket are the closest thing we have to a man-rated rocket after the shuttle retires, so it only makes sense that NASA would look into this route. NASA is very excited about what SpaceX is doing and once the Falcon 9 proves itself with unmanned cargo, I have no doubt that they will look into getting it man-rated.

  7. Re:Stupid approach, typical of bloated government by goodmanj · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Don't forget to add "if you break our cargo, you pay for it."

    If you want space transport to work like a trucking business, you should pay for it the way you pay a trucking business.

    If you want space transport to work like a bottomless money black hole, you should fund it like a bottomless money black hole.

    You get what you pay for, and what you get depends on *how* you pay.

  8. Blue Origin? by tomhath · · Score: 3, Funny

    Blue Origin: A normally secretive team established by Amazon.com founder Jeff Bezos...

    How much does NASA have to send into orbit before they get free shipping?