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Craig Mundie Wants "Internet Driver's Licenses"

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "Craig Mundie, Microsoft's Chief Research and Strategy Officer, called for the creation of an 'Internet Driver's License' at the World Economic Forum in Davos, saying, 'If you want to drive a car you have to have a license to say that you are capable of driving a car, the car has to pass a test to say it is fit to drive and you have to have insurance.' Of course, there are quite a few problems with this. For starters, internet use cannot yet cause death or dismemberment like car accidents can; and this would get rid of most of the good of internet anonymity while retaining all of the bad parts, especially in terms of expanding the market for stolen identities. Even though telephone networks have long been used by scammers and spammers/telemarketers, we've never needed a 'Telephone Driver's License.'"

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  1. we need a law? by ralphdaugherty · · Score: 4, Insightful

    since when do laws stop the bad guys?

    1. Re:we need a law? by GreatBunzinni · · Score: 5, Insightful

      More importantly, this measure is not targeted at "bad guys". When some idiot such as this Craig Mundie speaks about this concept of the "internet driver's license", what he is campaigning for is the ability to not only identify everyone who uses the internet but also the convenience of having any state's repressive power to ban anyone from the internet who disrespected any arbitrary rule these fools are trying to impose on the rest of the world. And the thing is, we aren't talking about criminal acts, as these are already punished by imprisonment. This sort of measure is intended to open the door for the ability to inflict arbitrary punishment on those who do not follow rules set forth by righteous idiots who believe they know better than the stupid masses.

      But hey, let's call it "driver's license", as it's a very convenient term to associate with this oppressive measure as it's widely regarded by society as banal government grant. This sort of totalitarian measure desperately needs a cuddly face to be able to fly. Let's not mention what it really is: a corporate-tailored totalitarian attack on individual freedom intended to punish non-criminal acts which are frowned upon corporate execs such as mr Craig Mundie.

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  2. From the email cited by tyrione · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even here in the U.S., one of the most common Internet-related questions that I receive is also one of the most deeply disturbing: Why can't the U.S. require an Internet "driver's license" so that there would be no way (ostensibly) to do anything anonymously on the Net?

    The road to ruin was paved with good intentions. However, that includes ludicrous ideas.

  3. System administrator Driver's License by enriquevagu · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Great idea, Microsoft! Even more, the Internet Driver's License should be followed by the "System Administrator Driver's License", so only people who know the risks present in Internet, and know their own computer OS, can run with Adminnistrator privileges.

    Oh, wait...

  4. Great segue by thethibs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Craig Mundie is making Dick Brass' point about Microsoft losing its competent people.

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  5. Translation by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Craig Mundie, Microsoft's Chief Research and Strategy Officer, called for the creation of an 'Internet Driver's License' at the World Economic Forum in Davos, saying, 'If you want to drive a car you have to have a license to say that you are capable of driving a car, the car has to pass a test to say it is fit to drive and you have to have insurance.'

    In other words, Windows doesn't suck - The users do.

    The drivers license analogy is being used to shift some of the blame from the OS to its users.

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  6. No license for having children by Dan667 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seems like there are a lot of more important ones that should get priority.

    1. Re:No license for having children by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Seems like there are a lot of more important ones that should get priority.

      Do you plan to put people in jail for having children or take their children from them?

      Maybe freedom means some people fail.

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  7. Re:1984 is not a manual by shadowofwind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I swear there's a certain class of people that don't understand that concept or maybe they do and they just really hope they get to be the masters pet.

    I think most of them never reflect enough to be more than vaguely aware of it, they just think in terms of controlling their environment in a way that benefits themselves. A few of the brighter ones do have an idea of where its going, but they don't care.

    I think most of the rest of us aren't smart or powerful enough to manipulate the system very much that way, but in a sense we have it coming, because we do not sufficiently value freedom. And I don't just mean freedom from oppressive governments and big business, but also freedom from lots of other things ranging from debt to chronic dependence on prescription drugs.

    And yes, almost everyone wants to be the masters pet. You can cut the head off of practically any abusive power structure and it will grow back, because nearly everyone's trying to climb one rung higher on the backs of those beneath them.

    On the up side, that's only half the dynamic. Some things are getting worse, but some things are getting better also.

  8. Licences for OS by POds · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps the licences should be handed out to Operating Systems based on compliance with web standards... I wonder if MS Windows would be given one?

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  9. Re:If you drunk e-mail... by SimonInOz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is so Microsoft. Their response to any problem is to want more control. (A bit like most governments, actually)

    Interestingly, this is the exact opposite of Open Source, or perhaps Wikipedia.

    They are absolutely committed to the cathedral, with no thought of the bazaar.

    And, for a while, it works.

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  10. Re:If you drunk e-mail... by mister_playboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    or perhaps Wikipedia.

    If you read /. often, you'd know Wikipedia is far less free than it used to be. We even have some trolls who post complaints about Wikipedia editors here. They are people who have gotten fed up with the current "I will control whatever happens on my pages" territorial mindset of some of the editors there who have all day to police their "domains".

    This sort of thing drives away and discourages many people from contributing.

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  11. Re:If you drunk e-mail... by an+unsound+mind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And taking a joke too far will carry the death penalty!

  12. Re:Actually, I think they have a point by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which is all well and good until the philosopher kings who wisely and benignly watch over the accreditation process are replaced by assinine bureaucrats in the pocket of lobby groups and special interests.

    Suddenly P2P programs can't get accredited anywhere, regardless of their legitimate use because they 'don't meet standards' or other such vague explanation, and exorbitant fees are charged for processing applications that cut the smaller players out of the market.

    I would oppose any measure that seeks to control access to the internet. I'll gladly tolerate spam and phishers if it means I can do what I goddamned well please with the internet I pay for.

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  13. Copyright protection by Spykk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Something tells me that if there was a license required for internet use the most common way to lose it would be involve bittorrent...