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Murdoch Says E-Book Prices Will Kill Paper Books

hrimhari writes "The settlement between Amazon and Macmillian got the attention of a known dinosaur. Consistent to his views, Mr. Murdoch wants to defend his book editors by killing the cheaper solution. '"We don't like the Amazon model of selling everything at $9.99," Murdoch said. "They pay us the wholesale price of $14 or whatever we charge," he said. "But I think it really devalues books, and it hurts all the retailers of the hardcover books.'"

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  1. Re:"Murdoch Wants" by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Informative

    To those who modded this Flamebait: Ten media conglomerates control over 75% of the media in the U.S.A., and over 50% of the media in the world. But Fox "News" viewers are some of the worst-informed Americans. Who do we blame but the CEO? And why would we believe different standards would apply to any other media under his control?

    As an aside, I was asked to download comment.pl the first time I clicked reply. Then I got a reset connection. Finally, I got a reply form. Coincidence? :)

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  2. Re:Not for My Personal Library by TheKidWho · · Score: 3, Informative

    Exactly... Especially when the government decides to ban a book and all your copies of it mysteriously disappear... Maybe not in the USA, but I can see it happening in many other countries.

    China decides to ban a book and everyones government provided ereader deletes it. Book burning of the 21st century.

  3. More context for that study. by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Fox News claim is commonly repeated and is misleading in a broader context. The same study showed that by its measure people who get their news from blogs are statistically indistinguishable from Fox News viewers at how informed they are. Indeed, both Fox viewers and blog readers are very close to the average level for people in the US. If you look at the data what is actually really bringing the average down seems to be the people who either have no regular news source or who are getting their news primarily from local TV news. There are other details about that study that make the claim about Fox News not nearly as bad when you look at in context. And now the plug:For a more detailed analysis see my blog entry on this subject: http://religionsetspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/06/bloggers-fox-news-and-informed-audience.html. Fox News is wretched and is damaging America in many ways. But it is very hard to see this study as evidence for that fact.

  4. Re:Prices by blitziod · · Score: 3, Informative

    ok first off you are viewing publishing in the context of print books. The switch to eformats( it will happen) will change the upfront costs. secondly much of the cost of selling books retail involves shipping( huge costs) and markup for the retailer. Retailers have limited shelf space and high costs for labor, etc.They have to recoup those or fold. Ebooks will eventually be sold with a tiny markup by the retailer OR direct from the publisher. The new market will eliminate shipping, retail space costs, most retail markup. More importantly it will eliminate printing books that do not sell. Many books do not sell. Printing a book may cost 5 bucks but if you print 3 for every one you sell WHOA thats 15 per book. Also the move to ebooks eliminates the vast amounts of capital publishing requires. This will allow publishers to publish many more books. Also by spending former production costs on marketing sell they can sell more copies also, to a point. The question is WHY book publishers have not moved faster to ditch paper and trucks in favor of electrons and cables? I predict more books will come out ONLY on ebook soon and not just junkie fan fiction or how to manuals. Universities( and students) should be the first to insist on ebooks to curtail the insane price of text books. A sensible ebook lending policy could cause libraries to buy thousands more books( no need for a bigger building, or a library visit, or even to live in the same city) thus improving sales of some titles. Imagine a national lending library for ebooks funded by a small donation made at the point of purchase( click here to donate 1 dollar to put a copy of this book in the national library). The amount of good for the people(including the industry) that can come from this is HUGE. But it will hurt some existing profit models..so what. For now I just pirate books on to my kindle at a ratio of around 10:1 to compensate for the gouging done by ebook retailers. For murdoch's company i guess i will raise that ratio to 15:1( or higher) now..no big deal...please join me in this act of revolution and make ebooks more common.

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  5. Re:This just in... by Znork · · Score: 4, Informative

    the DOJ can step in and smack them down for price fixing.

    It's hard to successfully nail IP industries for price fixing as copyright itself is price fixing and the products are not exactly fungible. Even when you nail them in the short term, monopoly pricing is set as a function of the consumers disposable income, not as a function of production cost and competition. Thus the prices will always tend to rise (in nominal terms, as reductions in disposable income will be hidden with inflation in the current economic system) and are unlikely to diverge far from each other (either lower or higher prices will result in lower revenue than the optimum monopoly pricing). You'll get the effect of price fixing whether they collude or not.

    Basically the only way to affect pricing is to encourage large scale private copying and distribution of the products in question, which is pretty much what passes for 'competition' in that segment of the economy.

  6. Re:This just in... by shmlco · · Score: 5, Informative

    The following book price breakdown from Kindle Review (http://ireaderreview.com/2009/05/03/book-cost-analysis-cost-of-physical-book-publishing/) is instructional:

    Book Retail Price: $27.95.
    Retailer (discount, staffing, rent, etc.) - $12.58. That's 45%.
    Author Royalties - $4.19. Exactly 15%.
    Wholesaler - $2.80. Exactly 10%.
    Pre-production (Publisher) - $3.55. That's 12.7%.
    Printing (Publisher) - $2.83. Translates to 10.125%.
    Marketing (Publisher) - $2. That's approximately 7.15%.

    Basically the numbers of interest are the retailer (45%), printing (just 10%), and the wholesaler (10%). So it's fairly easy to see that online books can dump wholesaling and printing costs... but that's just 20%, or $6. Retailer costs can drop, but most retailers still need to make a profit, even selling ebooks (servers cost money).

    Given the breakdown, I can see how a publisher might charge Amazon $15 for a first-run book, and how Amazon might decide to eat the $5 (for first run books) if it means gaining ebook market share and if it also encourages people to buy older books on which they DO make money. And sells the occasional Kindle.

    And if you think Amazon would not decide to lose some money now in order to build up market share, then you're completely forgetting how Amazon became Amazon in the first place.

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