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UCLA Profs Banned From Posting Course Videos

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "As of Winter Quarter 2010, UCLA professors will no longer be able to post videos on their course websites. Although they've long relied upon fair use protections for educational use, the Association for Information Media and Equipment has made claims that they're copyright infringers, even though the videos are only available on campus and the students are allowed to watch the videos in the Instructional Media Lab. Even though they believe their use of the materials to be fair, the UCLA has decided to back down rather than face litigation. Many professors have commented that this will hurt students, because they now have to watch all videos at the IML, which isn't open on weekends, forcing students to try to fit assigned videos between classes."

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  1. To clarify: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    They are NOT talking about videos of the courses

    The ban applies to videos assigned by professors for students to watch.

    Previously these could be streamed and watched at student's leisure. Now they have to go to the media lab to watch them.

  2. Not nearly as bad as the summary sounds by RingDev · · Score: 4, Informative

    This isn't about a recording of a lecture that gets posted, this is about copyright protected videos that a professor shows during a lecture being posted.

    So under this threat, a professor that shows "Steamboat Willy" in a class can not post "Steamboat Willy" onto the more accessible distribution system.

    -Rick

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  3. Re:Summary Is Confusing or Erroneous by reg106 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The summary is *very* confusing. In fact, TFA is very confusing. From the first few paragraphs, it is easy to misinterpret the videos in question to be recordings of lectures, but that is not the case. After reading the whole article, it is clear that the courses under consideration require students to view movies, produced by some external content-provider, outside of the class. They watch the *whole* movie, not just a part, so educational use alone isn't enough to trigger fair use. (Otherwise we'd all just use photocopied textbooks)

    When you buy a DVD, it has an implicit license to the conditions under which you can watch it (That FBI warning at the beginning indicating you can't show it to a large audience). To comply with copyright law, an "instructional" DVD which permits showing to an audience is required. I am only aware of this because our design course shows the Nightline "Deep Dive" video. If you look at the educational version (checkbox), it allows you to show to a group, but NOT to stream it. In order to stream the content, a difference license for the video would be required. I'm not sure how to get such a license right now, and this will be inconvenient for a few semesters worth of Bruins, but as demand for streamed instruction content grows, I'm sure viable licensing options will arise (as we have seen for music and popular video content).

  4. Re:Summary Is Confusing or Erroneous by networkBoy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Fair use still applies to the whole movie:

    US Code Title17, Chapter1, ss107 is crystal clear:

    the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.

    -nB

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  5. Re:Summary Is Confusing or Erroneous by reg106 · · Score: 3, Informative
    US Code Title17, Chapter1, ss107 also says:

    In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include—
    (1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
    (2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
    (3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
    (4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

    IANAL, and I am unclear on the full implications of the case law surrounding this, but clearly the interpretation cannot be so broad as you suggest. Otherwise it would be useless to copyright educational materials. Educational purpose is one aspect to be be considered, but (3) is also a significant consideration here. If you showed clips of a movie in a cinema class for the purposes of analysis and criticism, that would be fair use. To show the whole movie, you need an appropriately licensed version. Similarly, since the 90s universities (and students) have been paying royalties on papers included in course packs, even though these papers are clearly for educational purposes.

  6. Re:Summary Is Confusing or Erroneous by sribe · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...crystal clear:

    Yes, it's pretty clear. It's your reading comprehension that's lacking. "The fair use... for such purposes as... is not an infringement..." does not mean that "any use... for such purposes... is fair use and therefore... is not an infringement..." The other requirements for fair use still apply even for such purposes.

  7. Imagine books instead of video by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 3, Informative

    Teacher: "Good morning, lit class. Next we'll be reading Catch-22 by Joseph Heller. It's for sale at the bookstore. Go buy a copy and read the first 100 pages and we'll talk about it on Monday."

    Student: "Buy?! I can't afford that."

    Teacher: "Ok, well the library also has--"

    Student: "Only one copy and Ralph here next to me already checked it out."

    Teacher: "Ok, well, then, I'll just take my copy here over to the photocopy machine. Who all of you need a free copy?"

    Student: "Me!"

    Student: "Mee!"

    Student: "Me too!"

    Heller: "Brains!" [Kills teacher and eats brain.]

    Student: "Why did you kill teacher?"

    Heller: "Copyright infringement."

    Student: "You're dead. Why do you care?"

    Heller: "Need money buy brains."

    That's a totally believable scenario. But change the book to a movie and suddenly people are surprised that someone's brain got eaten.

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