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The Hidden Treasures of Sysinternals

Barence writes "PC Pro contributing editor Jon Honeyball has written a nice feature on the latest treasures to be found on the Windows Sysinternals website. Among them are a tool for creating virtual hard disks from physical drives, a hard disk read-write monitoring tool, and a utility for putting ISO images onto flash drives. They're free, but they're effective."

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  1. Duh by afidel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's a reason MS bought the company and hired Mark, he consistently puts out the most useful tools for in the trenches Windows diagnostics. Heck MS's PSS would routinely have you use his tools even before the purchase because nothing they put out internally was nearly as useful.

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    1. Re:Duh by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ``And the very first thing they did, within mere days of the acquisition, is they took his ultra-efficient, elegant little tools and put a 200KB EULA popup into every one of them.''

      A fine example of how proprietary software is so much more user-friendly than open-source software.

      ``A GUI popup.

      Even into the command line tools.''

      That, of course, is to make them more user-friendly. Everybody knows the command-line is just for Unix hippies who still live in the 1970s.

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  2. It's all stuff that ships with Linux by tjstork · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You know, sysinternals was amazing piece of reverse engineering work and some of the utilities that came out of it were pretty interesting as examples of that reverse engineering work.

    But...

    All that stuff is junk compared to what Linux does for utilities!

    I mean, my ubuntu has had burning ISOs and copying them any which way now for at leas 5 years. I can type sensors and get the motherboard temperature, fan speeds, everything. I mean, if you are into doing hardware and low level OS hardware interfacing stuff, there's enough gobblygook in /proc to keep anyone happy from Linux, and then there's all the log files and then the source.

    I mean, yeah, Windows has its advantages, but sysinternals isn't one of them. sysinternals is just proof that for a lot of applications you have to be a hero to get it to do anything simply because the source is closed.

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    1. Re:It's all stuff that ships with Linux by heffrey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Let me see if I've got this straight. A great set of tools that run on Windows demonstrates how rubbish Windows is. A great set of tools that run on Linux demonstrates how fantastic Linux is.

      This sounds a bit like Raymond Chen's post today: http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2010/02/09/9960102.aspx.

    2. Re:It's all stuff that ships with Linux by Whatsisname · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The tools on sysinternals are tools that should come with windows from day one.

  3. Free doesn't imply ineffective (and vice-versa) by noidentity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They're free and they're effective

    There, fixed that for you. Saying "free but effective" suggests that free implies ineffective.

  4. "Access Denied" by TheNinjaroach · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Process Explorer kicks the crap out of Task Manager simply for the fact that it doesn't give access denied error messages to admins trying to end protected system processes. Try ending the same processes with Process Explorer and it "just works" -- which goes to show that the Task Manager error message has nothing to do with actual account privileges. The first time I found this I realized it's no wonder Windows has such a problem with malware, the applications I run have more access to my system processes than I do!

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  5. Re:Is time for multidesktop for windows? by devent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh yes, that's really easier that to type ls -l, ps -ef or ps -ef|grep firefox

    Sorry, but the real advantages in the *nix shells is that every output is just plain simple text. That means, I can grep it, parse it, format it what ever I like and won't be restricted to the PowerShell to do anything use full.

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  6. Re:Is time for multidesktop for windows? by EvanED · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Oh yes, that's really easier that to type ls -l, ps -ef or ps -ef|grep firefox

    Okay, now what's your command line for printing just the file name and it's size? (Pretend you can't use 'du' or something like that.) Or just a list of process IDs with their command lines. (Both of these may be possible -- but the point is that the means of doing so isn't discoverable, you have to read the docs. In PowerShell, these operations *are* somewhat discoverable.)

    Besides, I never claimed that PowerShell was better or easier to use than the Unix shells. (I certainly don't claim it's as concise; verbosity is pretty common with Windows API names and such too.) My main claim is that it's merely different -- different enough that to say that it's a copy on anything more than a "hey look, Windows has a half decent command line" level does a disservice to what the PowerShell team did.

    Sorry, but the real advantages in the *nix shells is that every output is just plain simple text. That means, I can grep it, parse it, format it what ever I like and won't be restricted to the PowerShell to do anything use full.

    The fact that "every output is just plain simple text" can very much be a drawback too, because it means that a lot of the time you wind up doing some ad-hoc parsing that often works "well enough" but has problems.

    For instance, take something that I did earlier today for this post: extract from my shell history file a list of the commands I have run so I could sort them and count occurrences.

    My history file has lines that look like this:

    : 1265787576:0;tail zsh-history

    (The first number is the timestamp, the second number is duration.) Give me a command line that will return a list of command names I've run, so that I can then pipe it to "sort | uniq -c | sort -g".

    No really, I'm not kidding; come up with what you would do before reading on.

    My assertion is that this would be trivial in the PowerShell world, if there was a "history" command that would return a list of objects containing, e.g., a CommandPath field. Just 'get-history | select-object CommandPath'.

    What did I do in Linux? This:
    cat zsh-history | cut "-d;" -f2 | cut "-d " -f1
    This isn't so ugly... but it also has a ton of problems:

    • If I had quoted a command name -- say because the path had spaces -- then those quotes wouldn't have been removed for the sort step and would have been counted separately from an unquoted command. Worse, if the path had actually contained spaces, it would have only picked up the path until the first space.
    • Running a command by specifying a full path shows up differently than letting the shell search $PATH for it. Piping through 'basename' or something could fix this -- but at the cost of incorrectly collapsing commands that are in different directories into one entry.
    • I occasionally started a command with an environment variable explicitly set on the command line -- e.g. BLAH=foo cmd. In this case, the output from my pipeline would say the command is BLAH=foo.

    How many of these problems did your solution have?

    (I don't claim that mine is the best possible one -- but I don't know a way to do better without adding *substantial* complexity, and I'm quite comfortable at the command line and at least somewhat conversant with most of the standard Unix utilities.)