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A "Never Reboot" Service For Linux

An anonymous reader writes "Ksplice, the company based on the MIT Ksplice project, is now offering its 'never reboot' service for Red Hat, Debian, and other Linux distros. You subscribe and get real-time kernel security updates that apply in-memory instead of rebooting. Last summer we discussed the free service for Ubuntu. Cool tech, but will people really pay $4 a month for this?"

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  1. How long till they.. by mystikkman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How long till they get sued by Microsoft?

    http://www.google.com/patents?id=cVyWAAAAEBAJ&dq=hotpatching

    1. Re:How long till they.. by wcb4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Its a shame that MS never figured out how to actually implement this. How many times do I have to restart my computer to finish applying update?

      --
      I reject your reality ... and substitute my own.
    2. Re:How long till they.. by JSG · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The patent on this was filed in 2002. Yet in 2010 I am still making a handsome profit in overtime rebooting customer systems on a "patch Tuesday" monthly frenzy.

      Please MS, don't implement this one.

    3. Re:How long till they.. by __aasqbs9791 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, I love the updates that require a reboot so they can install another update that then requires another reboot.

  2. Yes, they are. by KingSkippus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Stating the obvious, yes, they are.

    But third-party companies are under no obligation to offer their products and/or services for free, and this is a service of a third-party company (Ksplice).

    If there is a demand for this service, plus an unwillingness to pay Ksplice for it, it's entirely possible (and likely) that someone will come along and offer an open source equivalent. But until the itch is scratched, Ksplice is perfectly within the right to offer the service at a cost.

  3. hrm... by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Color me stupid but wouldn't any application in which you'd rather not be rebooting (i.e. Router, firewall, file server, etc...) be the exact same application in which you'd NEVER want some 3rd party having access to your kernel? I mean, if a large percent of distros were using this I can just imagine it would be the A#1 target for every malicious coder in the world.

  4. Re:They better be encrypted! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why not just compile the kernel locally, like normal people do

    Um. Someone else want to break the news, or should I just go ahead and tell him?

  5. Re:It can be quite beneficial by drsmithy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The occasional reboot, under controlled circumstances, is an excellent test of what will happen in an emergency situation. Mainly, it answers the question of whether the server and required services actually will all come back up by themselves.

    More importantly, if your service architecture can't handle the scheduled outage of individual servers, then it is unquestionably broken.

    If you are concerned with individual server uptimes having a bearing on anything except your e-penis, then You're Doing It Wrong.

  6. Re:They better be encrypted! by teslar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someone else want to break the news?

    Ok, I'll do it.

    Dear Hurricane78,

    please, do not be alarmed. You suffer from an interesting form of amnesia that makes you believe we are still living sometime in February 2010. You also thought that J Cameron's (not to be confused with the late 20th-century fictionfilmer J Cameron. This one is more like the factfilmer D Attenborough) documentary on our early days on Pandora was syfy. But that's ok.

    The fact is, however, that these days, normal people run "stock" kernels provided by "distros". It works pretty well and we think Linux is almost "ready for the desktop" now. If only we could get multiple monitors to work....

    While we're at it, I should also tell you that Ubuntu is no longer with us. They never really recovered from the unexpected Crappy Century bug after it's version numbers began to repeat in the early 2100s, turning almost all computers into a "Warty".

    This may all come as a shock to you. But do not worry. The nature of your amnesia means that you will very soon - right about now in fact - have convinced yourself that this post was humorous in nature and not actually reflective of reality. Trust me, many wish they could live in your world. The end of the 20th/beginning of the 21st century was the highlight for the human race. In fact, many of us are currently working on a project - codename "Charging" - that would result in the creation of a VR set in this glorious era. Like "Second Life", only more immersive. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go and figure out where we'll get the energy to power this VR from....