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Experts Closing In On Google Attack Coders

ancientribe writes "The targeted attacks out of China that hit Google, Adobe, and other US organizations are still ongoing and have affected many more companies than the original 20 to 30 reported. Security experts now say they are getting closer to identifying the author or authors of the malware used to breach Google and other organizations."

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  1. Would you run unknown code? by fluffy99 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why on earth would I download and run the "inoculation" removal software from some unknown company? It might actually be installing more crap! Why not just give us a shell script if it's just wmi calls?

  2. Re:Propaganda by DeadboltX · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sounds to me like you're the propaganda machine here. There is nothing new or shocking about U.S. export laws preventing companies like google from offering certain types of services or software to certain countries.

  3. Boy I can't wait! by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As soon as the United States identifies the culprits in China...wow are they in trouble.

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  4. Re:Propaganda by ahabswhale · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apparently you're too stupid to read the article YOU linked. They are not permitted to allow countries like Syria and Iran to download their apps to comply with US law. Given that they're a US based company, what the fuck do you expect them to do?

    You need to work a lot harder than that to prove propaganda.

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  5. Re:Propaganda by wealthychef · · Score: 4, Funny

    The US media, however, is eager to twist the story.

    It would seem not, as you linked to PBS, a news outlet funded by the U.S. Government. LOL

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  6. Not Surprising by LuNa7ic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do you really expect that they would say anything else? "Sorry guys, this one has us stumped, we've no idea who did it." There are 15 paragraphs in TFA, and they've used them to not say a damned thing. Why did they even put this press release out?

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  7. Apology by BhaKi · · Score: 3, Funny

    I failed to do enough research. Is there a way I can delete the parent post?

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    1. Re:Apology by ae1294 · · Score: 3, Funny

      You really must be new here.

    2. Re:Apology by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I failed to do enough research. Is there a way I can delete the parent post?

      Join the Scientologists. Claim your post is part of their dogma. Threaten legal action.
      http://slashdot.org/yro/01/03/16/1256226.shtml

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  8. Gotta be a Chinese military virus. by Dahamma · · Score: 3, Funny

    Probably a Kuang Grade Mark Eleven. Big mother.

    1. Re:Gotta be a Chinese military virus. by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Interesting

      For a long time it looked like William Gibson had the wrong view of the future with the Sprawl series. But now we have duelling Russian botnets which fight for exploited systems and AI captcha crackers. Major corporations base their income on the reduction and on-sale of found information. Infrastructure is increasingly dependent on information technology, and likely to be connected to the Internet.

      Science fiction writers tend to over estimate short term progress and under estimate long term progress. I think Neuromancer is coming back.

      The charge? Conspiracy to augment an artificial intelligence..

  9. The interesting bits... by chill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    About 80 percent of APT attacks use custom malware, Mandia says. "We recently took over 1,800 programs we've collected since 2008 that are all part of APT ... and ran it through AV, and only 24 percent of the malware triggered antivirus," he says. "Over a year ago, none of it was triggering AV."

    Signature-based anti-virus scanning isn't going to help. That model is broken and only useful for the "AOL mindset" of the general public. That is, the people who go "ohhhh, SHINY. [click]" and get infected by year-old malware.

    Serious pressure on software vendors to make sure their app doesn't need admin rights to run on a Windows box would be a nice step.

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  10. Re:Propaganda by ahabswhale · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why should they bother with the hassle of getting an exemption? More importantly, how does the fact that they do not have an exemption make them part of some government propaganda machine?

    Oh, and Chrome runs on Linux and OS-X. Not sure where you get the notion that it's Windows only.

    The only thing that doesn't hold water here is your argument.

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  11. Re:Propaganda by michaelmuffin · · Score: 3, Informative

    pbs (and npr) is increasingly funded by corporate underwriting. i would certainly consider the pbs underwriting system to be paid advertising. in addition to corporate funding, pbs is brought to you in part by the corporation for public broadcasting, which is indeed federally funded

  12. Re:Propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ah, I'm worng. Again.

    And again as well. ;P

    Just ain't your day is it?

  13. not sure its a good idea to say this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In retaliation to the investigations and accusations, BAE Uk got a massive attack wave this weekend, much larger than anything Google saw. All the attacks came from proxys, but deeper probes showed all the traffic was from china.

    BAE had all their systems crippled and apprently had shut the whole network down(we are talking about thousand upon thousands of machines), reset all passwords and wipe a lot of boxes. You wont hear this in the news though. It would be seriously bad for business if the US and Uk governments got wind of it.

    China* wont go down without a fight.

    *whoever is organising it.

    1. Re:not sure its a good idea to say this by RMH101 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This happened in Manchester, UK: the police networks were shut down, apparently due to Conficker: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8492669.stm

  14. Re:Propaganda by Metal_Militia · · Score: 5, Informative

    *Chromium* runs on Linux. Chrome doesn't exist for Linux.

    http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=linux Seems official Chrome to me (at least is what the package says).

  15. Chinese "Echelon" by Max_W · · Score: 3, Informative

    Some states do use secret "Echelon" system to break into private and other states' communication systems. Yes, supposedly and by a self-proclamation these are the "good guys".

    Is it a feasible international framework that if one feels himself to be a "good guy" he can eavesdrop on electronic systems? But if he looks like a bad guy, speaks in some exotic ethnic language, then it is a condemnable behavior.

    But to Chinese and other Asian people we look like strange exotic humans. There is even a word for European-like people in Asia - "long-noses". And when one lives there it feels exactly this: being a "long nose" among normal people.

    So they know that good guys eavesdrop on them with an "Echelon" and keep silence philosophically, but when they try to get some info via eavesdropping a commercial company "Google", it causes a global panic. Or do I get it wrongly?

    Maybe it makes sense to lead by an example?