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Australian Senate Hears Open Source Is Too Expensive

schliz writes "The Australian Government Information Management Office says that a platform change to open source could cost more than it saves. It was pushed to investigate open source software to reduce its AUD$500m budget at a Senate meeting yesterday. From the article: 'Agencies are obliged to consider value for money on each occasion they apply a software,' spokesperson Graham Fry said. 'If the cost of assessing it [open source] was greater than the cost of the software, you would have to think twice.'"

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  1. How about the other side. by deniable · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, there are costs to adopting open-source, that's the basic message when you use a bureaucrat to English translator.

    How about these from TFA:

    A 2007 AGIMO survey revealed that 68 percent of government agencies were either piloting or using open source software.

    Centrelink, the Australian Bureau of Statistics and National Archives of Australia were known to use open source products;

    Looks like it's getting a fair hearing.

  2. It could be legitimate by tjstork · · Score: 4, Informative

    On the developer front:

    If you have a lot of database stuff, Visual Studio can be much cheaper to develop for, so long as you ignore Microsoft's Architectural Group. For me, moving to Linux isn't just about saving money, really, its to break free from the corporate brain cramp that is Microsoft Architectural guidelines. Visual Studio and C# are great tools, but, if you have to use evaporate 2x as productive multiplier to do 10x as much stupid stuff, there's hardly a savings.

    On the office front:

    OpenOffice's spreadsheet is not even close to Office 2007 Excel. We developers can say Open Office spreadsheet is good enough, but telling that to someone who lives and breaths Excel is only for laughs.

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    1. Re:It could be legitimate by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Informative

      "OpenOffice's spreadsheet is not even close to Office 2007 Excel. "

      95% of the users I know use it to make phone lists and such with no calculation at all, because they never saw that Word and its companions can do tables too.

    2. Re:It could be legitimate by micheas · · Score: 5, Informative

      On the developer front:

      If you have a lot of database stuff, Visual Studio can be much cheaper to develop for, so long as you ignore Microsoft's Architectural Group. For me, moving to Linux isn't just about saving money, really, its to break free from the corporate brain cramp that is Microsoft Architectural guidelines. Visual Studio and C# are great tools, but, if you have to use evaporate 2x as productive multiplier to do 10x as much stupid stuff, there's hardly a savings.

      On the office front:

      OpenOffice's spreadsheet is not even close to Office 2007 Excel. We developers can say Open Office spreadsheet is good enough, but telling that to someone who lives and breaths Excel is only for laughs.

      However people that use their spreadsheets for statistics will tell you that using Excel for you calculation is about as productive as using substituting rand() for your equations.

      Here is one of several papers about the fact that Microsoft has no interest in fixing the broken nature of excel for statistical work.

  3. Re:Duh... by sznupi · · Score: 4, Informative

    Users of open source software don't exist in isolation; the economy of scale is huge in their case, too.

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  4. Exactly right by HangingChad · · Score: 5, Informative

    In the end, it all depends on how you make the calculation. Sure, a switch *could* cost more, but it *could* also cost less depending on the scenario you choose to follow.

    Having actually replaced proprietary systems with open source alternatives, I can tell you none of the expense talking points that usually get thrown around by people invested in Microsoft products have ever materialized. There are always minor disruptions, but no worse than moving to the next version of a proprietary product. The license savings have been huge, but it's more than that. You don't realize how often proprietary companies come back and back for another drop of blood until they're gone. It's like Little Shop of IT Horrors. The up front license costs are only one layer of cost savings.

    This may not be a great example, but the last company I worked at saved big when we replaced Exchange with Gmail, which I don't consider an open source product. Not only did we scrap Exchange and the associated server OS licenses, we let the Exchange admin go and replaced them with a lower cost developer. That saved a ton of money and we were able to channel that savings into increased productivity. Double bonus. Gmail is simple enough the help desk could manage the administration.

    Really, it's all in how you implement the changes. The barrier for most companies is that their IT decisions are being made by people invested in proprietary technology. They'll never get out from under it.

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