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Are Silicon Valley's Glory Days Over?

Hugh Pickens writes "Pete Carey writes in the Mercury News that there are 'clear warning signs' that Silicon Valley has entered 'a new phase of uncertainty' in which its standing as a tech center is at risk and that decisive action by business, government and education is needed if the region is to retain its standing as the world's center of technical innovation. 'It could be that Silicon Valley has a different future coming,' says Russell Hancock. 'It's not a given that we will continue to be the epicenter of innovation.' Among the troubling indicators in the Silicon Valley Index (PDF): 90,000 jobs lost in the last two years; the influx of foreign science and engineering talent has slowed; venture capital funding has declined; per capita income is down 5 percent from 2007; and the number of people working as contractors rather than full-time employees is rising. Adding to the valley's problems is a malfunctioning state government that is shortchanging investment in education and infrastructure."

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  1. We never needed foreign workers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually we needed the exact opposite of H-1B, V1, B1 and all the rest. We built the tech industry without these corporate communist regulations because without them wages went up. Rising wages brought people into the field and encouraged risk.

    All the federal government's interference in the US labor market has driven down wages and increased fear. It has also discouraged the best and brightest American students from entering tech. And what people seem to not understand is that Americans bring unique skills to technology. A diverse workplace is good. We had that back in the '90s. But today, we are way past that. In my office I am the only American. Mostly we have Indians. When you get over 25% Indians on a team you start to see their cultural influence. Hindus believe in a cast system where certain people are just better than others.
    It starts to kill the team. And that's were I see most teams today in my company. They are Hindu teams where it matters which cast you are from more than anything else.

  2. Re: Right Wing Heaven by Insightfill · · Score: 3, Interesting
    California is an example of the "bread and circuses" situation that happens when the population is TOO involved in direct government. When EVERYTHING is on the ballot as a proposition, bad things can happen.

    In this state's case, a lot of things led to poor money situation, but two stand out: 1) when times were good, they didn't allow themselves a 'rainy day fund' and mandated that any surpluses had to be spent out. 2) Net taxes paid OUT to the federal gov. are staggering, and California is the gross highest - in 2001, their "balance of payments" figure was 58 BILLION dollars.

  3. Silicon Valley VCs have become risk averse by j.+andrew+rogers · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Part of the problem in Silicon Valley is that the venture capital community has become noticeably more risk averse than it was many years ago. Many (most?) firms act more like investment banks than high-risk, high-tech venture funds.

    Additionally, I think the rise of social media has biased venture capital deals in strange ways, steering even more money toward social network and media whores than actual tech ventures.

  4. It's the manufacturing, stupid. by Animats · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First, bypassing the "story" and a layer of blogs, is the actual report.

    What's really happened in Silicon Valley is that it's been hollowed out. Silicon Valley used to be a major manufacturing center. San Jose once had the highest percentage of manufacturing employees of the major US cities, something like 54%. Today, the assembly plants are gone. Most of the fabs are gone. Much of the engineering is gone. This is what happens when you "outsource". Eventually, everything moves to where the production is, including management and finance.

    Part of the problem was the "dot com boom", with its fake companies and fake prosperity. That caused a major change in the culture, away from engineering and towards marketing. When the bottom fell out of the dot-com boom, most of the marketing types left. The number of twentysomethings in San Francisco dropped by half. (A friend in the club business says "and the other half are working their butts off and don't go out much.") The big name in Silicon Valley now is not HP or Intel or IBM or National Semiconductor or Fairchild. It's Google, which is an ad agency. That's a huge change in emphasis.

    The innovation culture is declining. Portola Valley (a rich suburb) used to have the highest percentage of patent holders of any US community. That's dropped. There's not that much exciting innovation going on. I go to venture capital meetings, and the ideas being presented are just not very exciting. (I've heard a pitch for a social network for cats. And that made it through two rounds of filtering before I heard it.)

    People are still struggling to get semiconductor line widths down, solar fab costs down, and such. But that's a grind. Mobile devices are not a fun area in which to work - the weight budget, the cost budget, the power budget, and the time budget are all very tight. The manufacturing is in Asia, anyway, and the engineering is going there. New areas aren't appearing.

    There's noise about "green tech", but realistically, "green tech" is either vaporware, like the "smart grid", silly, like small windmills, or something that requires massive manufacturing, like big windmills. Five years ago, the noise was about "biotech", which doesn't employ many people.

    Fewer young people in the US are going into engineering, and that's a rational decision. It's hard, it's expensive to study, your job may be outsourced, and it's now a low-status field. In 1970, lawyers and electrical engineers made about the same amount of money. That was a long time ago. On the other hand, in Asia, an EE degree puts you in the top few percent of the population in terms of income and status.

    US government polices haven't really had much of an effect one way or the other on Silicon Valley, except that allowing the runup in real estate increased living costs substantially and that free trade has made outsourcing so easy.

    1. Re:It's the manufacturing, stupid. by Targon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is a common misconception, that no one wants to work in a factory. No one wants to feel exploited, but at the same time, factories are a better place to work for those without an advanced education. Those working in the auto industry, even if they were only being paid $20/hour would probably still be fairly happy with their job. Factory work does NOT need to be a horrible experience, but bad management will make it(and just about any other work) a horrible experience.

      The real key is how employees are treated, and to provide proper encouragement for hard work. The auto industry could be fixed by paying a fair BASE wage in manufacturing with a bonus based on volume of properly completed units that employee works on. Even in low-end manufacturing, start with a base minimum wage, but then offer a decent compensation based on properly produced products the employee has produced(with a QA process that looks to push quality, rather than just trying to avoid paying the person working in manufacturing). So, the higher the volume the person in manufacturing produces, the better the pay, and those who are fast and do a good job(vs. those who are fast but are sloppy) will get paid more.

      The other side is to make employees feel pride in what they are doing, and to make people take pride in what they produce. Back in the mid 1990s, technical support was treated as a skilled job, and the manager I worked under took the attitude that if you could solve the customer problem with one phone call, it was better to take 3 hours on that one call than to make the customer call back again, and again, and again. As a result, we had very few people calling in a second or third time to solve their problems, and customer satisfaction with support was fairly high. Eventually we had a "suit" come in that treated technical support like customer service, where the average time on a call was more important than making sure that a customer problem was fixed. This "you have to average six minutes per call" attitude drove call volume through the roof, but also lowered the morale of employees and made people take less pride in their job because they couldn't take the time to make sure the job was done properly. That job STARTED where tech support was something employees could take pride in doing, and ended up taking the feeling of being responsible for our jobs go away. Fortunately or unfortunately, it also drove those with knowledge to get out of support into Operations as soon as possible, but it also made it so those who came from support had less desire to help the managers in support with problems due to how poor employees in support were treated.

  5. Re:Outsource to Detroit by XorNand · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Detroit? Yeah right, you need to have money to attract money.

    I was previously part of a tech start-up that grew out of research at the University of Michigan. The founder tried like hell to get funding but no one would listen to someone based in the Midwest. And no VC in this state understood the industry well enough to risk the amount of capital we needed. Eventually he got the VC needed from a couple of places in the Valley, conditional that the corporate HQ be based there (so they could keep an eye on their money and handpick the leadership). So we had most of the engineering going on in Michigan while the sales/marketing/leadership rubbed elbows in Cali. It was a very inefficient system. But you had the engineers who refused to relocate to CA and the bigwigs who refused to move to the Midwest.

    There was always this odd tension between the two offices. The Cali guys treated us like we were some backwater boys who didn't know how to run with the big dogs. We viewed them as pretentious mercenaries. Anyhow... I'm rambling. Point is that while I really dislike the Valley culture, I don't think that Midwest is ready to compete with it.

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  6. Three Word: Cost of Living by tyrione · · Score: 3, Interesting

    California was too expensive to live in back before the Dot com Boom and worse today. You have regions around the US where the cost of developing sectors of R&D are a fraction of that in Silicon Valley and would better serve spreading the talent around the US instead of concentrating it into a zone where you drown in debt while gaining experience.

    I left Apple a year after my former company, NeXT, merged with Apple because the cost of living and going through a divorce was bankrupting my ass. The cost has far surpassed the cost of living adjustments and it is not worth going back.

  7. Re:shortchanging investment in education... by rachit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And stop with the Prop 13 blame. It's BS. Jebus, even many progressive politicians here don't trot that one out anymore. Go back and look at what led up to Prop 13. It didn't form out of a vacuum. People were having to get *loans* to pay their property taxes. It is INSANE to tax people on unrealized gains!

    You may think its insane, but it is clearly benefiting property owners over tenants. Over a long enough time, there will be the few with property, and the rest that rent from them, because it will no longer be economical to buy or sell property to lose the locked in property tax rates.

    Also, there is stupid stuff in prop 13 which allows for commercial property to qualify for the locked in rates. Companies just buy and sell the shell companies that own the real estate, rather than buy it outright and reset the property taxes.

    Its simply broken.

  8. Re:shortchanging investment in education... by Lock+Limit+Down · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One man's production, is another man's consumption.

  9. Stop blaming H-1 ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wanna blame? Blame yourselves !

    Silicon Valley's glory and gloom has nothing to do with H-1.

    Silicon Valley bloomed in yesteryears because of the incentives that were there for innovators to innovate.

    Innovators were aplenty, and they were willing to share the findings to each others, and they actually encouraging each others to do more !

    There were no patent trolls back then. No teams of lawyers who will sue innovators to bankruptcy or subpoena them to court to explain why they come up with this little piece of code/gadget/idea which happens to have similarity to another piece of code/gadget/idea.

    In other words, there were no rent-seekers back then.

    Nowadays? There are more rent-seekers in Silicon Valley than the innovators.

    Blaming the H-1 visa is too easy, and everyone is doing just that. But will that help Silicon Valley?

    What if all the H-1 visas are revoked tomorrow? Do you seriously think that Silicon Valleys can magically bloom again, just like that?

    C'mon, guys ! Use your brain for once and stop regurgitating the vomit of others.

    And PS. I was in Silicon Valley when it blooms, and yes, I was one of the innovators. Now I am no longer in the Silicon Valley, and heck, I am no longer staying in the United States, and you know why? Because I have had enough of those rent-seekers !