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Anti Terror Honor System
Fortunately for us, the FAA has imposed the honor system as our next best defense against terrorism. Hopefully this will allow them to increase the volume of non-bladder liquid I'm allowed to take on planes.
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This is a link to College Humor... did Taco even mouse over? Why is this on the front page? Quit wasting my time while I'm wasting my employer's time!
yes.
I find that a hilarious option on my US entry form. Because you see if I was actually there to do something illegal, I'd be declaring it when I enter. Yeah, right.
But it makes sense as a sort of "But ... but ... but ... he said so!" legal CYA move. (Wait, CYA ... that sounds like something else).
I think from what I've heard, Israel does the most ardous security check ever and they do it without being dicks about it. They have intelligent agents, who ask the right questions and do not invade your personal space to intimidate you. And it seems to work for them, especially since they back it up with the kind of stuff Mossad did at Entebe (despite the international legalities of doing so),
The video is actually fairly funny, heh the "never do it again".
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur
This barely even is worth putting on idle (easily the worst idea slashdot has had, and that's saying a lot) and its certainly not front page material.
CmdrTaco, you are definitely coasting now.. This site has turned to shit.
The following URL is a petition for permanent residence in the United States of America.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-485.pdf
Part 3 is the part that catches terrorists.
Based on their experience with the finger-crosser, I'd say this is a stunningly effective anti-terror mechanism
Similar checkboxes were on my security clearance application. The way I see it, it's so they can charge you with lying on a gov't form later if it turns out you are a terr'ist.
Put this in Idle, not in Tech where I expect actual news.
Well, that is a minute of my life I won't get back.
DHS is responsible for the Security Circus, not the FAA. Please put the blame where it belongs!
Poop dog, baby. POOP DOG.
I think from what I've heard, Israel does the most ardous security check ever and they do it without being dicks about it. They have intelligent agents, who ask the right questions and do not invade your personal space to intimidate you. And it seems to work for them, especially since they back it up with the kind of stuff Mossad did at Entebe (despite the international legalities of doing so),
Have you read "The Pillars of Hercules" by Paul Theroux? There are some passages in there about entering Israel and the procedures involved.
The video wasn't even that funny.
I'm OK with the idle section, so long as articles that belong there are categorized as such.
It's better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.
- E. Debs
Is it such a slow tech news day that we're going to see links to 4chan and xkcd all day?
Jeebus.
The way I see it, it's so they can charge you with lying on a gov't form later if it turns out you are a terr'ist.
Nahh, charging someone with lying on a form doesn't get the DA promoted.
Its a reading comprehension test. Some cultures always respond affirmatively to someone superior to them. Thus the hilarity of some outsourced customer service interactions. Those forms will figure out if you can read English well enough to intelligently provide the "correct" answer.
"Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
Oops that was meant for the Slashdot editor, not you.
Similar checkboxes were on my security clearance application. The way I see it, it's so they can charge you with lying on a gov't form later if it turns out you are a terr'ist.
Actually, it is probably perjury. And that probably is the reason. They might not be able to prove the terrorism charge, but they'll convict you on the perjury charge.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
Actually, it is probably perjury. And that probably is the reason. They might not be able to prove the terrorism charge, but they'll convict you on the perjury charge.
IANAL but I think that to convict you of perjury for saying you weren't a terrorist they'd still have to prove that you were a terrorist.
On the other hand, deporting your arse out of the US (or firing you from your security-cleared job) for lying on a form probably only requires "reasonable suspicion" (the main thing you're doing on those nice green forms is waiving your right to appeal deportation or refusal of entry).
In a survey of 100 programmers, 111111 thought that duck-typing was a good idea.
In almost related news, ok ok not really, check out http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/01/tsa_logo_contes.html
It's funny. Promise.
As humorous as that was, this is exactly the sort of security that actually works: looking people in the eyes, asking questions, being trained to skillfully detect what constitutes an honest response.
The general stupid masses of the western world see the fancy x-ray machines, silvery conveyor tables and shiny rent-a-cop badges and think this somehow translates to better security. But this is not security, this is an illusion of security. This is just put on for show so that your representatives in government (hahahaha... I know) can appear to be doing something about those dern terrrrists.
Security is not a product or a technology. Security, in the case of an airport, is an active process of identifying risks through layers of highly-trained intelligence personel; not high school drop-outs hired to press buttons.
Wait, why does that sound familiar?
Since the 2009 Iranian election protests, Eric S. Raymond, self-appointed public face of the hacker movement and alleged core developer of the Linux kernel, had been running wild thinking about wishing for Middle East problems spilling over into the Americas.
His long-standing suspicion of Islam, coupled with a throbbing curiosity about a people who wiped excrement from their backsides with their bare hands, had Eric in disarray. One minute he was conspiring with Iranian hackers in IRC, the next he was bolted to Fox News, foaming at the mouth and shouting at the television.
Alongside all of this were his trusty companions, a never-ending bottle of Jägermeister and his Glock.
Eric was just posting another rant to his blog when his 386 started swapping like a man at a computer auction; Felchmale was loading a new message.
From: emad.opensores@gmail.com
To: esr@catb.org
Date: JUN 20 2009 16:27
Subject: IRANIAN HACKER COMMUNIQUÉ
Eric,
It's Emad.
I know we haven't spoken since that whole Michael incident, but I think we should put our heads together about these Iranian hackers.
Meet me at the Carney's Point Flying J at 10 PM. Get shower stall 16 and wait for me. I'll be wearing a Slashdot t-shirt and drinking Bawls.
Don't be late. The future of Iranian hackers depends on it. So does the security of America too I guess, and gun ownership or something.
Emad
Eric smiled, lurid and yellow, and checked his X11 clock. Just after 4:30. He had several hours before he was to meet Emad. He took a shot of Jäger to celebrate and logged back into the Iranian hacker IRC channel. He shoved his glock down the front of his jeans, poured another shot of Jäger, and logged into the Iranian IRC server.
Eric's glow-in-the-dark Casio calculator watch luminesced 9:59 PM at him in the darkened shower stall. He was at the Flyin' J's Travel Plaza near Penns Grove, New Jersey, and had just finished a Double Whopper with cheese and a king-sized order of onion rings. His cola sat nearby, untouched, since he'd spirited a fresh bottle of Jägermeister in with him by means of his Hackers bookbag. He was lucky to have found the rare tie-in merchandise on eBay and jumped at it; now the leader of hackers everywhere had an official bookbag.
Into his fourth shot of the night, Eric relished the ice-cold herbal liqueur. Emad was several minutes late, and Eric had taken the chance to make a particularly loud bowel movement and was now courtesy flushing for the third time in as many minutes. He downed his fifth shot of Jägermeister, whipped his sweatpants up to his belly, replaced his Glock in the waistband, and began some hacker stretches and exercises when he heard a knock at the door.
"Yes, can I help you?" Eric shouted through the thick steel door. "This shower is occupied."
"Just like Iran is occupied by the Great Satan of American interventionist politics?" came the reply from the other side.
Eric fumbled with the lock and opened the door with a scrape.
"Emad! As the leader of hackers around the world, I'd like to welcome you to my makeshift office!" Eric said, bowing. "We shall liberate our Iranian brothers this night!"
Emad looked around at the fastfood garbage, the bottle of Jäger cocked in the urinal full of ice, and a tan, tank-like Toshiba laptop sitting propped on the sink. It smelled like feces slathered in Burger King onion ring sauce. A fly buzzed somewhere in the shower stall.
"Hello, Eric," Emad said, finally locking eyes as best he could with the leader of hackerdom before him. "Before we begin this, you must explain something to me."
"Uh, what's that, Emad? I thought we had this all planned out."
I find that a hilarious option on my US entry form. Because you see if I was actually there to do something illegal, I'd be declaring it when I enter. Yeah, right.
There is an offense called "lying to US Customs". If you're a foreigner caught lying to US Customs, the customs officer has the authority to ban you from the USA for up to 5 years. No judge, lawyer, jury, or appeal.
I think from what I've heard, Israel does the most ardous security check ever and they do it without being dicks about it.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1135243.html
Yes, Israeli security never invades anyone's personal space.
I find that a hilarious option on my US entry form. Because you see if I was actually there to do something illegal, I'd be declaring it when I enter. Yeah, right.
Out of these US Customs forms, can you point to the one that said that.
I looked at a few of them, and couldn't find the entry you mentioned.
I think from what I've heard, Israel does the most ardous security check ever and they do it without being dicks about it.
Not according to one plaintiff on Judge Judy (not a big sample I know, but I've never heard anyone else other than him describe their experience with Israeli Airport guards). The guy sued EL AL (Air Israel), the guards basically had diplomatic immunity -- so he couldn't sue them directly, but the guards were real dickheads to him (because supposedly, he had brown skin -- although he was Israeli and Jewish himself).
So if you go by that measure, how did they treat me, or how do they treat white people in general, then the cops in the US -- especially the local Sheriffs in the backwaters of the South -- are probably some of the nicest and most courteous cops in the World -- assuming you really do go by that measure.
They have intelligent agents, who ask the right questions and do not invade your personal space to intimidate you.
Yeah, if I were an Israeli airport guard, I'd probably stand a couple of feet away from the possible suicide bomber too.
Nobody wakes up in the morning and says... "HEY, I have an idea.... just for the hell of it, let's go kill some American's"
They want to stop America from F'ing around with their country...... so.... why don't we do that? Believe me, we have PLENTY of people here that need educating first.
Since FDR and before, the Constitution that PROTECTS your rights has been corrupted. You have rights because you are a living breathing human... not because the Constitution 'gives' them to you.
Do a search for Michael Badnarik and his constitution class. If you're not totally pissed off at the state of our country..... you're not in possession of the real facts.
EDUCATE YOURSELF!
Judging by the stories I've read here and there, a straight look in the eye, asking more than twice and their gut feelings could actually work better than the current system. :)
This post contains no rudeness or derision of any kind. All arguments are friendly. Terms and exclusions may apply.
I think from what I've heard, Israel does the most ardous security check ever and they do it without being dicks about it. They have intelligent agents, who ask the right questions and do not invade your personal space to intimidate you.
I'm guessing you've never gone through this security check as a young Arab male.
You ever try to pick up some woman in a bar and have her ask you, "You're not a rapist or an axe murderer, are you?" This makes exactly as much sense as that question... I always want to respond "No I'm not... which is exactly the same answer a rapist or axe murderer would give you!" Or perhaps "No... but I am a pathological liar!" However, since those snarky answers would reduce the chances of my actually getting laid, I always just smiled and answered "No, of course not!" Which is exactly the same answer the terrorists will give.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
The video is actually fairly funny, heh the "never do it again".
"Also, you'll still have to take off your shoes."
That's ridiculous! What am I going to do with my shoes, attack the President of the United States? Don't be absurd!
Let q be a radix > 1. I am in ur base-q, killing 10 d00ds.
What the Israeli security services do is far above and beyond anything we've seen in the US. With the possible exception of torture, I'm not really familiar enough on Israeli policy there, I certainly haven't ever heard their head of state saying that it was OK to torture.
In the US we've got a few armed air marshal's on a number of flights, and if I understand correctly, the Israelis have a pair of obviously armed security officers there with automatic weapons to take down anybody that tries to get into the cockpit without appropriate cause.
I take it you don't recall the name Richard Reid, AKA the shoe bomber. Had he managed to light his shoes that entire flight would've probably crashed, or at least suffered a serious decompression incident. Which was mind boggling since at that time you could legitimately take lighters with you one US flights.
"A few years ago, I was moving a new bed into my apartment, and this woman who lived in the building opened the front door for me with her key. She said, 'I'm not worried because a rapist wouldn't have a bed like that.' That's how she started the conversation. Now, what I should have said was nothing. What I did say was 'You'd be surprised.' '
Nope, I don't remember that. Might have something to do with the fact that I had pretty much just turned 12 and I was still in 7th grade at the time.
Let q be a radix > 1. I am in ur base-q, killing 10 d00ds.
They convicted Martha Stewart of lying about insider trading, but they never proved that she did any insider trading. They never even charged her with insider trading.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
Sure, we can moderate individuals posts, but how about stupid ass submissions like this?
While I like you Captain Chimichanga, I come here for news. that was not news. I expect better of you.
Be seeing you...
This is a link to College Humor... did Taco even mouse over? Why is this on the front page? Quit wasting my time while I'm wasting my employer's time!
haha ahaha muhAHAHA
All cows eat grass!
My big problem with that form is that you can't change your mind later. I mean, what if I am visiting the US on holiday, and I have only good intentions when I arrive, so I don't tick the box. But when I get there, I realise that the arrogant running imperial dogs must all die and decide to martyr myself for the cause.
Who do I see to get my form back to change the option? There are no contact details on the form and it seems to me that your government make it as hard as possible to update my details. So you see, it's not my fault that I have to break the law when I change my mind - you've forced me to this by not providing a simple way to update my details!
Thanks for the loud guitar riff ad mother fuckers. Give a warning or something when these sites have loud ads.
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