I think there needs to be a distinction drawn between footage of actual child molestation, which certainly should be illegal, and those who provide consideration for it should be gaoled, on the one hand, with other types of images which are far less harmful, on the other.
Photos of under-age girls in swimwear taken on a public beach, for example, should be treated like any other image taken in similar circumstances. (Personally, I wouldn't be very likely to find a picture of anybody merely hanging around in bathers pornographic, but other people have different tastes and standards, so let's be as general as is reasonable.) Likewise, the photo of Miley Cyrus discussed elsewhere in this page sounds (without seeing the image) like it would fall inot this category. This approach does get us into a mess when we consider images from countries with lower ages of consent and more relaxed public decency laws, but I would be tempted to say that if the photo was legal to take and publish, it is legal to possess (although there is a question of burden of proof here).
Then we have "sexting" and similar images, which are often self-portraits. Here we should treat the images as we do any other private message of a similar level of intimacy, whatever the age of the person involved, since that seems like the most consistent and logical approach. Certainly no-one should be prosecuted for taking or releasing a picture of himself. Relatedly, the age of consent for pornography should be the same as the age of consent for sex, since you otherwise end up with the silly situation of it being legal to have sex with someone but not to look at a picture of yourself having sex with them.
Lastly, we have the question of images of nude children taken in a private setting. This is the main grey area, both now and under any sane changes to the law, because someone has to decide if the images are pornographic. A good test for that would, IMO, be for the defence to select a group of images previously decided to be non-pornographic, and then to add some of the images to be decided on (selected by the prosecution if we want to use only a sample), split up enough to ensure that it isn't obvious which images are the new ones. The groups of images can then be shown to jurors for unrelated cases (preferably scattered across the jurisdiction), and we ask them to identify which ones are pornographic. If enough choose the new ones (enough to be unlikely to be guesswork), we can proceed with the trial without risking prejudicing the jurors with any other images. If the images are non-pornographic, they should be restricted exactly as any other images taken in that situation would be.
For those things that would be legal if not for the camera, you could modify the law to say that before releasing the images you have to wait until the subject is 18 or whatever the age of consent is and then ask for consent. Then either release or destroy the pictures/video.
If you were going to do that (and I'm not sure if it is a good idea), it would probably be best to require the images be archived by some government agency in an encrypted form with the key held by the model and then the owner is billed on a cost-recovery basis until model comes of age and decides to either claim the images or destroy them. It would probably be a good idea to have special rules about the ownership of such images, to help prevent any unfair contracts.
Also, I would say that providing consideration (in the contract law sense) for material which was produced by committing a crime should be illegal by analogy with laws against receiving stolen goods. This would include some CP, but would also cover rape videos, snuff flicks, or anything like that, but would not cover, for example, anything with consenting actors, or no people at all (cartoons or written material, for example), no matter how distasteful the content.
Perhaps an improvement to approval voting would be to number the candidates as in ranked systems, so that if two or more candidates achieve an equal number of votes the one with the lower total score (who is more preferred) would get the seat.
It isn't just that people don't think Brown, Fielding, whoever runs the Democrats these days, and so on are PM material (although the latter two aren't). Part of the problem is that anyone who isn't green or Christian right and who wants a political career, will want to be a part of either the ALP, the LPA or the Nationals, because they know how important the marketing power and media connections of the major parties are. Unless something can be done about that, the two-party system will remain, at which point we would get alternative parties holding more seats under the current system anyway.
The trouble with the party list in a PR system is you get the opposite problem: you don't have anyone who has to look after your local interests, and if, say, the government wants to build over most of the open space in an inner-city area you don't have anyone in the house to stand up for you (or to vote out when he doesn't). This is a problem of any single-electorate system, but under an STV quota-based PR system (the South Australian Legislative Council uses one, the Australian Senate uses a slightly-broken version) you can more easily vote in a local representative if you have an important issue.
Of course, a multi-electorate system suffers from the problem of split demographics in an electorate, if you have n winners and >n distinct demographics. For example, my seat has both the urban lower-class (who usually vote centre-left or Christian nutcase) and farmers and rural upper-middle class commuters (who usually vote centre-right), but since the lower-class urban area contains about 75% of the voters they get 100% of the representation for the district. Because of this sort of situation, I think that electorate boundaries should be adjusted based on socio-economic demographics as well as geography.
The trouble is, we get the leaders they deserve too. There is a saying, attributed to every quotable Prime Minister from Wellington to Churchill (and probably a good many others as well) that "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter". The trouble is, there's not much which can be done about it, without risking entirely breaking democracy.
Children and recent immigrants (and, in some countries, prisoners and the mentally incapable) don't have the right to vote, and yet still must obey the law and pay taxes, so that argument doesn't hold. Some countries have a citizenship test, which immigrants must pass before gaining citizenship, and it would make sense if citizens by birth also had to pass that test before voting, serving on a jury and so on. Alternatively, requiring that people pass either the educational certificate taken at school-leaving age or a set of equivalent exams including $LOCAL_LANGUAGE and maths would be a reasonable requirement for full citizenship, although in countries without national standardisation of exams that would make things difficult to administrate.
I think the English and Germans both pale in comparison to the Milanese a few years ago, in an Inter Milan versus AC Milan match, when Molotovs and fireworks were fired at opposing supporters in the stadium.
The difference between English and German hooligans seems to be that the Germans are nominally political and there are a few of them who all do a lot of damage, whereas English hooliganism seems to be more about raging at the opposing team and the referee, and seems to be a large number of very drunk men doing a relatively small amount of damage each, although this impression does come mostly from news reports, not from first-hand observation, so it could be wildly wrong.
If I was to follow you around everywhere you went in public, saw every item you looked at in a shop, logged everyone you talked to and had someone following them and all their contacts, and so on, I would be able to build up a fairly good profile of who your friends were, your political, religious, and sexual orientation, whether you were cheating on your wife if you have one, and a lot of other personal information which most people would prefer wasn't stored in some government database for whatever purpose they decide this week. If I were working for a private entity, they would be able to guess most of the information a government already has (but which private entities probably don't), such as whether you had children and roughly how much money you have. All that information can be gathered without you saying anything, if you or your friends speak, their tails can gather even more data.
You then get problems because this data never goes away, so if, in one's student days, one were friends with someone who sold drugs or untaxed booze, or had a now-embarrassing political affiliation, that wouldn't go away, and worse than that, if too many one's current friends had slightly questionable pasts which they were keeping quiet about now, that would potentially tar one with the same brush. (And if you think that's purely hypothetical because you are careful about who your friends are and never did anything embarrassing, think of those from smaller cities: in two degrees of separation (a friend of a friend), I can get to both some of the most respectable names in my country's social and political life, and to people who are almost certainly active members of criminal gangs, and that is perfectly normal in this city.)
This isn't practical in the real world yet, but with technology like the Australian centre for Visual Technology's surveillance system which is currently undergoing medium-scale testing which would, with a suitable database to store the gathered data, enable nearly complete tracking of everybody who is within the area of camera coverage, it would be relatively easy to implement.
There is also the problem of missing, garbled, and incomplete data, which will almost certainly lead to false positives, leading to even more perfectly innocent people getting added to no-fly-lists and the like. This isn't just me being paranoid: if they have data, the media will crucify them for not using it every time there is a shooting or terrorist attack.
Because anyone could have been there to see you, it's simply the case that potentially MORE people may see/hear what you did - but that makes NO DIFFERENCE because they could have done so without the camera/microphone.
They could have heard me, but, without cameras and microphones, I know they didn't because I can see there is no-one watching.
100 years ago, if I simply checked there was no person hanging around (fairly easy to do), I would know no-one was listening. Even now, in the real world, if the nearest person is 100m away, he probably can't hear you, and he is very unlikely to be able to, say, lip-read you, so you can talk with a reasonable expectation of privacy. However, if there are hidden microphones scattered all over the place, then it means one cannot speak freely not anywhere except in a private house where you trust the owner, because there is no way you can tell if anyone is listening. Surely you have had conversations in public places where you have checked that no-one is listening: well, with microphones everywhere, this would be effectively impossible (remember, it was originally an analogy, in which the microphones are invisible). In such a scenario, it would also be easy for third parties to claim that, since you have no expectation of privacy, they can record your conversations too.
In addition to what fuzzyfuzzyfungus (SP) said, there is also the fact that we just don't know which particular places have plainclothes G-men waiting to follow you. We all know that some do, and we can guess some of those, but is there a mob of feds reading every post on here? What about digg, or reddit, or all the major blogging sites? There are probably some watching some boards on major news sites, but which ones? What about other protocols, like IRC? With ssl, I know that if I trust everyone in the room I just have to be able to trust the server operator, but if there are police scanning the conversations at the server it is like if you are talking to some friends in the middle of a park, check there is no-one around to overhear, and find that there is a microphone up a tree listening to you.
This sort of thing means that we can't assume that we aren't being spied on anywhere online, which means that there is basically no reasonable expectation of privacy from being tracked and watched anywhere online, so that in turn increases what they can watch without a warrant.
The point he is making is not that any individual event in your life which takes place in public should be kept private, but that when someone can set up a system to see *everything* you do in a public place, then there are legitimate privacy concerns.
I think it is mostly an emotional and political point: many people who say no abortion except for children conceived by rape want to ban abortion entirely but don't think they can win popular support if they don't make that exception. Most of the others are almost certainly of the "pregnancy as punishment" school of thought, which probably comes from an interpretation of part of the Book of Genesis combined with a puritanical view on sex, which is pretty unreasonable but fairly widespread.
Part of the problem is that not only is there the question of whether a foetus is alive is when it become alive. I think that most people would consider partial-birth abortions unacceptable, but at the same time a lot of people consider a morning-after pill perfectly fine. Those who hold that view must then choose a dividing line somewhere in the middle,the most reasonable being implantation, when it can feel pain, when it has a central nervous system, and when it has reached a point where it could be kept alive outside the womb.
The other main problem is that people ar generally fairly emotional about issues like this, which makes sensible debate difficult because extremists from both ends of the spectrum tend to distract everyone else.
I think it is more likely that they don't like seeing naked chatroulette users.
After all, if you can get a real lady to look at you naked (or, preferably, more than just look), you're not likely to be so desperate for female attention.
Certainly I know about Turing, and I know that the US still has problems which can be blamed, in part, on slavery, so I don't believe that homosexuality will stop being a social issue anytime soon, but that doesn't meant that such opinions should go unanswered. Certainly such opinions should never be censored, and he has every right to make unhelpful comments (as far as I'm concerned, his local laws may say otherwise), but such comments (probably unthinkingly) reinforce anti-homosexual opinion. Indeed, if there wasn't prejudice against non-heterosexuals, my comment would have been entirely redundant.
I think, perhaps, that I forgot how much stigma is attached to homosexuality simply because the CS department at my uni (where I spend much of my time) has so many bisexual and homosexual students (approximately 70% of the male domestic students, mostly bisexual[1][2]), that it is generally assumed that any stranger who says they are heterosexual is probably in the closet and merely haven't spent enough time with sufficiently open people[3] to feel comfortable coming out (this is backed up by the fact that many of those who are completely out at uni are completely in the closet to their families). In such an environment it is easy to forget what the real world is like, and even that one small department is not representative of the rest of the tech world.[4]
[1] I know this because last year someone posted "do it, faggot" on a departmental discussion board, which raised the question of "Which one?" and so lead to an informal study of students' sexuality. The methodology was simple but reasonably sound, albeit rather too long to put in a footnote.
[2] This, incidentally, made the CS club almost certainly the second-gayest club on campus (after the queer club), and far in excess of the "progressive" clubs who make a political stand on gay rights.
[3]Mild autism-spectrum disorders are fairly common, so there is a reasonable base of students who just don't care much about the social stigma, and a core of already-out students and a fairly small department all help here.
[4] wow that was long: TL/DR: I know, but I thought it should be said. I forgot the real world, sorry..
whores, homosexuals, perverts and other near-criminal or criminal types
It annoys me a little to see homosexuals lumped in with criminals and near criminals (by which I assume you mean grey marketeers, almost-but-not-quite fraudsters, and people who are connected with, but not directly involved in, crime), because homosexuality isn't and shouldn't be a crime, or with whores, because homosexuality/bisexuality is orthogonal to prostitution (and promiscuity).
Certainly there is much in common between honey trapping and prostitution, and there are no doubt homosexual honey traps, bit it seems very unlikely that a significant proportion of homosexual CIA employees are engaged in such work.
In 1999, there was a report within Australia's Howard government (not sure if it was a government report or a party-aligned think-tank's report) which said that the only good reason for keeping copyright for more than a few (as in 5 or so) years on anything other than books was because of WTO sanctions, because most so-called "creative industries" didn't actually rely on long copyright (TV is mostly from Australian content laws or stuff like news, films make most of their money in the first few years, musicians tend to leave the country when they make a significant proportion of their income from recording, and software is mostly bespoke or in-house work), and Australia's balance of trade for copyright royalties was unfavourable. (I haven't managed to find this report, I heard about it from one of a Howard-era Communications Minister's electoral staff, who said (rightly) that they'd have been crucified by News Limited if they'd found out.)
If enough other countries find the same thing, then maybe the WTO rules will change, unless NewsCorp makes politicians unable to do anything about it, of course.
Some friends of mine from uni wrote a shell script to use finger to get a list of users, remove their name from the list, then look up each logged in user's classes (from LDAP, then from the university calendar to convert codes to English), what year they are in, whether domestic or international, and a whole load of other details from LDAP, and present them in an easy to read report. More recent versions try to scrape facebook for mutual friends, interests and so on (and a photo, to prevent name collisions causing embarrassment). When they saw a pretty girl in the labs, they'd ssh into her computer and use the details to provide a conversation starter.
It started out as about 100 characters of bash, and got a little out of hand, but it did work. Personally, I suspect most of the benefit came from the effect of an epic kludge on a CS student than the intended conversation, since it was usually fairly obvious that the suer had a load of her personal information, and explaining that you'd written a script to look them up is a lot better than seeming like a stalker.
I was actually thinking of his later lack of common sense, so perhaps "competent" would have been better than "sane". If he hadn't, for example, forgotten the point of invading the USSR and actually captured the oilfields instead of getting distracted by Stalingrad, or if he had tried to persuade the Japanese to attack Siberia rather than China (they drew up plans for both), or if he had continued the Battle of Britain for a little longer (whether this counts depends on how good his intel was), or if he hadn't declared war on the USA (although it is sometimes said that he thought Japan would declare war on the USSR if he did, so this might not be entirely his fault), then things *might* have gone very differently.
Where I live (a first-world nation) it is very unusual for anyone living outside of a city or large town to have mains water, and most of those people drink rainwater collected from their roofs. Some, but not many, use a reverse osmosis plant to purify their drinking water, and a large minority use a little pool chlorine in their tanks in summer, but generally people don't really think much of drinking virtually unfiltered rainwater (those filter jugs are fairly common, but they don't do anything about small particles), without much in the way of health problems from it.
(I'm not saying that rainwater is as safe as mains, but it isn't really worth worrying about.)
On reflection, it is probably a good think that people like the GGP are useless, because if they were competent, they might actually gain and keep some power. Just imagine how bad a sane Hitler could have been.
"if we could deport all the third world immigrants"
Now I see why you posted as AC. That's both trollish and obviously stupid: moving people from here to there won't help to reduce world's population.
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It would work, but only in a way which is morally unacceptable to almost everyone: send them back there where there is less infrastructure, and then cut off all non-military aid so they die younger. Only a rabid far-right nutjob would say this is a good idea, but it does reduce the world's population. However, it isn't even a very practical idea: if you didn't care at all about the welfare of these people, it would be more effective to simply enslave or hang them.
Just to make it clear, I think that such a plan is unacceptable, but incompetence irritates me, and the GP was very incompetent.
Octave lacks symbolic calculus, which (apart from general arithmetic and playing a Doom-clone) was what I used my calculator most for in high school. To be fair, though, they have since banned those calculators in final-year high school exams in my state, and in all university maths exams, and only a few schools used them, even though they were very good value-for-money, and fairly cheap.
I think scilab might have a symbolic toolkit, although last time I wanted to use it I gave up trying to translate the documentation from allegedly-English to actual English and sshed into a machine with matlab. The trouble with scilab (at least around 2 years ago) was that while it seems like a pretty good system, it had a gui straight out of 1990 (rather, there was a big edit box with command-line scilab, a few motif widgets for fairly trivial operations, and a pretty minimal editor: they almost needn't have bothered, curses would have served them better) and the documentation was pretty appalling (although the French documentation is probably a lot better)
allow them to turn in papers with dozens of different incompatible file types.
The simple and obvious solution to that is to require papers to be submitted in PS, PDF, plain unicode text, or hard copy. Any sane document preparation system can produce any of those output formats (well, a minimal POSIX-compliant system might not, but that is hardly "sane" in the sense of high-school students), and every modern OS has readers for all 3 electronic formats.
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Qnext isn't very common, but it does use SSL for direct client-to-client chat.
I think there needs to be a distinction drawn between footage of actual child molestation, which certainly should be illegal, and those who provide consideration for it should be gaoled, on the one hand, with other types of images which are far less harmful, on the other.
Photos of under-age girls in swimwear taken on a public beach, for example, should be treated like any other image taken in similar circumstances. (Personally, I wouldn't be very likely to find a picture of anybody merely hanging around in bathers pornographic, but other people have different tastes and standards, so let's be as general as is reasonable.) Likewise, the photo of Miley Cyrus discussed elsewhere in this page sounds (without seeing the image) like it would fall inot this category. This approach does get us into a mess when we consider images from countries with lower ages of consent and more relaxed public decency laws, but I would be tempted to say that if the photo was legal to take and publish, it is legal to possess (although there is a question of burden of proof here).
Then we have "sexting" and similar images, which are often self-portraits. Here we should treat the images as we do any other private message of a similar level of intimacy, whatever the age of the person involved, since that seems like the most consistent and logical approach. Certainly no-one should be prosecuted for taking or releasing a picture of himself. Relatedly, the age of consent for pornography should be the same as the age of consent for sex, since you otherwise end up with the silly situation of it being legal to have sex with someone but not to look at a picture of yourself having sex with them.
Lastly, we have the question of images of nude children taken in a private setting. This is the main grey area, both now and under any sane changes to the law, because someone has to decide if the images are pornographic. A good test for that would, IMO, be for the defence to select a group of images previously decided to be non-pornographic, and then to add some of the images to be decided on (selected by the prosecution if we want to use only a sample), split up enough to ensure that it isn't obvious which images are the new ones. The groups of images can then be shown to jurors for unrelated cases (preferably scattered across the jurisdiction), and we ask them to identify which ones are pornographic. If enough choose the new ones (enough to be unlikely to be guesswork), we can proceed with the trial without risking prejudicing the jurors with any other images.
If the images are non-pornographic, they should be restricted exactly as any other images taken in that situation would be.
For those things that would be legal if not for the camera, you could modify the law to say that before releasing the images you have to wait until the subject is 18 or whatever the age of consent is and then ask for consent. Then either release or destroy the pictures/video.
If you were going to do that (and I'm not sure if it is a good idea), it would probably be best to require the images be archived by some government agency in an encrypted form with the key held by the model and then the owner is billed on a cost-recovery basis until model comes of age and decides to either claim the images or destroy them. It would probably be a good idea to have special rules about the ownership of such images, to help prevent any unfair contracts.
Also, I would say that providing consideration (in the contract law sense) for material which was produced by committing a crime should be illegal by analogy with laws against receiving stolen goods. This would include some CP, but would also cover rape videos, snuff flicks, or anything like that, but would not cover, for example, anything with consenting actors, or no people at all (cartoons or written material, for example), no matter how distasteful the content.
Perhaps an improvement to approval voting would be to number the candidates as in ranked systems, so that if two or more candidates achieve an equal number of votes the one with the lower total score (who is more preferred) would get the seat.
It isn't just that people don't think Brown, Fielding, whoever runs the Democrats these days, and so on are PM material (although the latter two aren't). Part of the problem is that anyone who isn't green or Christian right and who wants a political career, will want to be a part of either the ALP, the LPA or the Nationals, because they know how important the marketing power and media connections of the major parties are. Unless something can be done about that, the two-party system will remain, at which point we would get alternative parties holding more seats under the current system anyway.
The trouble with the party list in a PR system is you get the opposite problem: you don't have anyone who has to look after your local interests, and if, say, the government wants to build over most of the open space in an inner-city area you don't have anyone in the house to stand up for you (or to vote out when he doesn't). This is a problem of any single-electorate system, but under an STV quota-based PR system (the South Australian Legislative Council uses one, the Australian Senate uses a slightly-broken version) you can more easily vote in a local representative if you have an important issue.
Of course, a multi-electorate system suffers from the problem of split demographics in an electorate, if you have n winners and >n distinct demographics. For example, my seat has both the urban lower-class (who usually vote centre-left or Christian nutcase) and farmers and rural upper-middle class commuters (who usually vote centre-right), but since the lower-class urban area contains about 75% of the voters they get 100% of the representation for the district. Because of this sort of situation, I think that electorate boundaries should be adjusted based on socio-economic demographics as well as geography.
The trouble is, we get the leaders they deserve too. There is a saying, attributed to every quotable Prime Minister from Wellington to Churchill (and probably a good many others as well) that "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter". The trouble is, there's not much which can be done about it, without risking entirely breaking democracy.
Children and recent immigrants (and, in some countries, prisoners and the mentally incapable) don't have the right to vote, and yet still must obey the law and pay taxes, so that argument doesn't hold. Some countries have a citizenship test, which immigrants must pass before gaining citizenship, and it would make sense if citizens by birth also had to pass that test before voting, serving on a jury and so on. Alternatively, requiring that people pass either the educational certificate taken at school-leaving age or a set of equivalent exams including $LOCAL_LANGUAGE and maths would be a reasonable requirement for full citizenship, although in countries without national standardisation of exams that would make things difficult to administrate.
I think the English and Germans both pale in comparison to the Milanese a few years ago, in an Inter Milan versus AC Milan match, when Molotovs and fireworks were fired at opposing supporters in the stadium.
The difference between English and German hooligans seems to be that the Germans are nominally political and there are a few of them who all do a lot of damage, whereas English hooliganism seems to be more about raging at the opposing team and the referee, and seems to be a large number of very drunk men doing a relatively small amount of damage each, although this impression does come mostly from news reports, not from first-hand observation, so it could be wildly wrong.
If I was to follow you around everywhere you went in public, saw every item you looked at in a shop, logged everyone you talked to and had someone following them and all their contacts, and so on, I would be able to build up a fairly good profile of who your friends were, your political, religious, and sexual orientation, whether you were cheating on your wife if you have one, and a lot of other personal information which most people would prefer wasn't stored in some government database for whatever purpose they decide this week. If I were working for a private entity, they would be able to guess most of the information a government already has (but which private entities probably don't), such as whether you had children and roughly how much money you have. All that information can be gathered without you saying anything, if you or your friends speak, their tails can gather even more data.
You then get problems because this data never goes away, so if, in one's student days, one were friends with someone who sold drugs or untaxed booze, or had a now-embarrassing political affiliation, that wouldn't go away, and worse than that, if too many one's current friends had slightly questionable pasts which they were keeping quiet about now, that would potentially tar one with the same brush. (And if you think that's purely hypothetical because you are careful about who your friends are and never did anything embarrassing, think of those from smaller cities: in two degrees of separation (a friend of a friend), I can get to both some of the most respectable names in my country's social and political life, and to people who are almost certainly active members of criminal gangs, and that is perfectly normal in this city.)
This isn't practical in the real world yet, but with technology like the Australian centre for Visual Technology's surveillance system which is currently undergoing medium-scale testing which would, with a suitable database to store the gathered data, enable nearly complete tracking of everybody who is within the area of camera coverage, it would be relatively easy to implement.
There is also the problem of missing, garbled, and incomplete data, which will almost certainly lead to false positives, leading to even more perfectly innocent people getting added to no-fly-lists and the like. This isn't just me being paranoid: if they have data, the media will crucify them for not using it every time there is a shooting or terrorist attack.
Because anyone could have been there to see you, it's simply the case that potentially MORE people may see/hear what you did - but that makes NO DIFFERENCE because they could have done so without the camera/microphone.
They could have heard me, but, without cameras and microphones, I know they didn't because I can see there is no-one watching.
100 years ago, if I simply checked there was no person hanging around (fairly easy to do), I would know no-one was listening. Even now, in the real world, if the nearest person is 100m away, he probably can't hear you, and he is very unlikely to be able to, say, lip-read you, so you can talk with a reasonable expectation of privacy. However, if there are hidden microphones scattered all over the place, then it means one cannot speak freely not anywhere except in a private house where you trust the owner, because there is no way you can tell if anyone is listening. Surely you have had conversations in public places where you have checked that no-one is listening: well, with microphones everywhere, this would be effectively impossible (remember, it was originally an analogy, in which the microphones are invisible). In such a scenario, it would also be easy for third parties to claim that, since you have no expectation of privacy, they can record your conversations too.
In addition to what fuzzyfuzzyfungus (SP) said, there is also the fact that we just don't know which particular places have plainclothes G-men waiting to follow you. We all know that some do, and we can guess some of those, but is there a mob of feds reading every post on here? What about digg, or reddit, or all the major blogging sites? There are probably some watching some boards on major news sites, but which ones? What about other protocols, like IRC? With ssl, I know that if I trust everyone in the room I just have to be able to trust the server operator, but if there are police scanning the conversations at the server it is like if you are talking to some friends in the middle of a park, check there is no-one around to overhear, and find that there is a microphone up a tree listening to you.
This sort of thing means that we can't assume that we aren't being spied on anywhere online, which means that there is basically no reasonable expectation of privacy from being tracked and watched anywhere online, so that in turn increases what they can watch without a warrant.
The point he is making is not that any individual event in your life which takes place in public should be kept private, but that when someone can set up a system to see *everything* you do in a public place, then there are legitimate privacy concerns.
I think it is mostly an emotional and political point: many people who say no abortion except for children conceived by rape want to ban abortion entirely but don't think they can win popular support if they don't make that exception. Most of the others are almost certainly of the "pregnancy as punishment" school of thought, which probably comes from an interpretation of part of the Book of Genesis combined with a puritanical view on sex, which is pretty unreasonable but fairly widespread.
Part of the problem is that not only is there the question of whether a foetus is alive is when it become alive. I think that most people would consider partial-birth abortions unacceptable, but at the same time a lot of people consider a morning-after pill perfectly fine. Those who hold that view must then choose a dividing line somewhere in the middle,the most reasonable being implantation, when it can feel pain, when it has a central nervous system, and when it has reached a point where it could be kept alive outside the womb.
The other main problem is that people ar generally fairly emotional about issues like this, which makes sensible debate difficult because extremists from both ends of the spectrum tend to distract everyone else.
I think it is more likely that they don't like seeing naked chatroulette users.
After all, if you can get a real lady to look at you naked (or, preferably, more than just look), you're not likely to be so desperate for female attention.
Certainly I know about Turing, and I know that the US still has problems which can be blamed, in part, on slavery, so I don't believe that homosexuality will stop being a social issue anytime soon, but that doesn't meant that such opinions should go unanswered. Certainly such opinions should never be censored, and he has every right to make unhelpful comments (as far as I'm concerned, his local laws may say otherwise), but such comments (probably unthinkingly) reinforce anti-homosexual opinion. Indeed, if there wasn't prejudice against non-heterosexuals, my comment would have been entirely redundant.
I think, perhaps, that I forgot how much stigma is attached to homosexuality simply because the CS department at my uni (where I spend much of my time) has so many bisexual and homosexual students (approximately 70% of the male domestic students, mostly bisexual[1][2]), that it is generally assumed that any stranger who says they are heterosexual is probably in the closet and merely haven't spent enough time with sufficiently open people[3] to feel comfortable coming out (this is backed up by the fact that many of those who are completely out at uni are completely in the closet to their families).
In such an environment it is easy to forget what the real world is like, and even that one small department is not representative of the rest of the tech world.[4]
[1] I know this because last year someone posted "do it, faggot" on a departmental discussion board, which raised the question of "Which one?" and so lead to an informal study of students' sexuality. The methodology was simple but reasonably sound, albeit rather too long to put in a footnote.
[2] This, incidentally, made the CS club almost certainly the second-gayest club on campus (after the queer club), and far in excess of the "progressive" clubs who make a political stand on gay rights.
[3]Mild autism-spectrum disorders are fairly common, so there is a reasonable base of students who just don't care much about the social stigma, and a core of already-out students and a fairly small department all help here.
[4] wow that was long:
TL/DR: I know, but I thought it should be said. I forgot the real world, sorry..
whores, homosexuals, perverts and other near-criminal or criminal types
It annoys me a little to see homosexuals lumped in with criminals and near criminals (by which I assume you mean grey marketeers, almost-but-not-quite fraudsters, and people who are connected with, but not directly involved in, crime), because homosexuality isn't and shouldn't be a crime, or with whores, because homosexuality/bisexuality is orthogonal to prostitution (and promiscuity).
Certainly there is much in common between honey trapping and prostitution, and there are no doubt homosexual honey traps, bit it seems very unlikely that a significant proportion of homosexual CIA employees are engaged in such work.
In 1999, there was a report within Australia's Howard government (not sure if it was a government report or a party-aligned think-tank's report) which said that the only good reason for keeping copyright for more than a few (as in 5 or so) years on anything other than books was because of WTO sanctions, because most so-called "creative industries" didn't actually rely on long copyright (TV is mostly from Australian content laws or stuff like news, films make most of their money in the first few years, musicians tend to leave the country when they make a significant proportion of their income from recording, and software is mostly bespoke or in-house work), and Australia's balance of trade for copyright royalties was unfavourable. (I haven't managed to find this report, I heard about it from one of a Howard-era Communications Minister's electoral staff, who said (rightly) that they'd have been crucified by News Limited if they'd found out.)
If enough other countries find the same thing, then maybe the WTO rules will change, unless NewsCorp makes politicians unable to do anything about it, of course.
Some friends of mine from uni wrote a shell script to use finger to get a list of users, remove their name from the list, then look up each logged in user's classes (from LDAP, then from the university calendar to convert codes to English), what year they are in, whether domestic or international, and a whole load of other details from LDAP, and present them in an easy to read report. More recent versions try to scrape facebook for mutual friends, interests and so on (and a photo, to prevent name collisions causing embarrassment). When they saw a pretty girl in the labs, they'd ssh into her computer and use the details to provide a conversation starter.
It started out as about 100 characters of bash, and got a little out of hand, but it did work. Personally, I suspect most of the benefit came from the effect of an epic kludge on a CS student than the intended conversation, since it was usually fairly obvious that the suer had a load of her personal information, and explaining that you'd written a script to look them up is a lot better than seeming like a stalker.
I was actually thinking of his later lack of common sense, so perhaps "competent" would have been better than "sane". If he hadn't, for example, forgotten the point of invading the USSR and actually captured the oilfields instead of getting distracted by Stalingrad, or if he had tried to persuade the Japanese to attack Siberia rather than China (they drew up plans for both), or if he had continued the Battle of Britain for a little longer (whether this counts depends on how good his intel was), or if he hadn't declared war on the USA (although it is sometimes said that he thought Japan would declare war on the USSR if he did, so this might not be entirely his fault), then things *might* have gone very differently.
Where I live (a first-world nation) it is very unusual for anyone living outside of a city or large town to have mains water, and most of those people drink rainwater collected from their roofs. Some, but not many, use a reverse osmosis plant to purify their drinking water, and a large minority use a little pool chlorine in their tanks in summer, but generally people don't really think much of drinking virtually unfiltered rainwater (those filter jugs are fairly common, but they don't do anything about small particles), without much in the way of health problems from it.
(I'm not saying that rainwater is as safe as mains, but it isn't really worth worrying about.)
On reflection, it is probably a good think that people like the GGP are useless, because if they were competent, they might actually gain and keep some power. Just imagine how bad a sane Hitler could have been.
"if we could deport all the third world immigrants"
Now I see why you posted as AC. That's both trollish and obviously stupid: moving people from here to there won't help to reduce world's population.
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It would work, but only in a way which is morally unacceptable to almost everyone: send them back there where there is less infrastructure, and then cut off all non-military aid so they die younger. Only a rabid far-right nutjob would say this is a good idea, but it does reduce the world's population. However, it isn't even a very practical idea: if you didn't care at all about the welfare of these people, it would be more effective to simply enslave or hang them.
Just to make it clear, I think that such a plan is unacceptable, but incompetence irritates me, and the GP was very incompetent.
Octave lacks symbolic calculus, which (apart from general arithmetic and playing a Doom-clone) was what I used my calculator most for in high school. To be fair, though, they have since banned those calculators in final-year high school exams in my state, and in all university maths exams, and only a few schools used them, even though they were very good value-for-money, and fairly cheap.
I think scilab might have a symbolic toolkit, although last time I wanted to use it I gave up trying to translate the documentation from allegedly-English to actual English and sshed into a machine with matlab. The trouble with scilab (at least around 2 years ago) was that while it seems like a pretty good system, it had a gui straight out of 1990 (rather, there was a big edit box with command-line scilab, a few motif widgets for fairly trivial operations, and a pretty minimal editor: they almost needn't have bothered, curses would have served them better) and the documentation was pretty appalling (although the French documentation is probably a lot better)
allow them to turn in papers with dozens of different incompatible file types.
The simple and obvious solution to that is to require papers to be submitted in PS, PDF, plain unicode text, or hard copy. Any sane document preparation system can produce any of those output formats (well, a minimal POSIX-compliant system might not, but that is hardly "sane" in the sense of high-school students), and every modern OS has readers for all 3 electronic formats.