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A History of Media Technology Scares

jamesswift writes "Vaughan Bell at Slate has written an interesting article on the centuries old phenomenon of hysterical suspicion surrounding new media and the technologies that enable them. 'A respected Swiss scientist, Conrad Gessner, might have been the first to raise the alarm about the effects of information overload. In a landmark book, he described how the modern world overwhelmed people with data and that this overabundance was both "confusing and harmful" to the mind. The media now echo his concerns with reports on the unprecedented risks of living in an "always on" digital environment. It's worth noting that Gessner, for his part, never once used e-mail and was completely ignorant about computers. That's not because he was a technophobe but because he died in 1565.' The best line comes near then end: 'The writer Douglas Adams observed how technology that existed when we were born seems normal, anything that is developed before we turn 35 is exciting, and whatever comes after that is treated with suspicion.'"

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  1. Enjoyed the Marijuana Story by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    CNN reported that "Email 'hurts IQ more than pot'"

    Well from that article,

    He found the IQ of those who tried to juggle messages and work fell by 10 points -- the equivalent to missing a whole night's sleep and more than double the 4-point fall seen after smoking marijuana.

    Well, not that I trust psychiatrists that much but I guess the only thing this is telling me is that marijuana really isn't the brain destroying demon they've made it out to be. Doesn't really convince me that email rots my brain.

    Not a single shred of evidence underlies these stories ...

    Well, to be fair, these are psychiatrists conducting surveys and "research." Probably counts as a 'shred.' I think the surveys are a better bet than research but your blame doesn't lie with the media ... rather the institutions giving these psychiatrists degrees and the "peer reviewed" journals publishing this work and research.

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    1. Re:Enjoyed the Marijuana Story by sakdoctor · · Score: 4, Funny

      You get a double whammy if you use wireless; what with all those large email attachments flying though the air, and some of them getting lodged in your brain.

    2. Re:Enjoyed the Marijuana Story by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He found the IQ of those who tried to juggle messages and work fell by 10 points -- the equivalent to missing a whole night's sleep and more than double the 4-point fall seen after smoking marijuana.

      So... If you go to hospital, you might be safer with a stoned surgeon, than one who's been up for 36 hours? Strange, the things we make illegal, and the things we don't.

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    3. Re:Enjoyed the Marijuana Story by Bakkster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well considering that IQ really isn't an accurate representation of actual 'general intelligence', this makes perfect sense.

      Think of IQ as just another standardised test. You lose 10 points (compared to your own baseline score) by juggling e-mail messages (however they measured that) or missing a night's sleep and lose 4 points from baseline after smoking pot. In any case, these are temporary effects, and a perfect example of why IQ has jack shit to do with how intelligent you actually are.

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    4. Re:Enjoyed the Marijuana Story by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So... If you go to hospital, you might be safer with a stoned surgeon, than one who's been up for 36 hours?

      Trouble is, you'd probably end up with a surgeon that's stoned and has been up 36 hours. Yeah, it's proven time and time again that lack of sleep seriously impacts your performance, you should never be operated on by someone that's gone 36 hours without sleep unless it's an emergency. But practical matters dictate there won't be operating rooms and doctors everywhere and not enough so in a major accident they just do what they got to do. If it wasn't for that, they should certainly be no less restricted than truck drivers with mandatory rest stops and such. Seriously, would you let someone unfit to drive a road vechicle cut you open with a scalpel? I wouldn't.

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    5. Re:Enjoyed the Marijuana Story by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 5, Informative

      I've worked those hundred-hour weeks in a busy hospital; trust me, it does a lot more damage to your ability to take care of patients than a puff or two would do. People who are that tired -- and I don't care how tough you are, by the end of it, you are that tired -- display some of the worst aspects of alcohol and drug intoxication, without any of the relaxed happy feeling which is why people like to get drunk and stoned in the first place.

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    6. Re:Enjoyed the Marijuana Story by mikael_j · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not sure about that. I've been around stoned people and I've been around really tired people.

      Oh really? The rest of your post doesn't give that impression.

      Really tired people don't seem to have the same mental differences from their normal state than stoned people.

      I'd agree with you if you were using "It's 22:00 and I normally go to bed at exactly 21:30" as an example of "really tired". Now if we're talking about really tired people (like an ER surgeon who's been up for 36+ hours and working hard for most of that time) then we're looking at seriously bizarre behaviour, hallucinations and an inability to concentrate that would make my cats seem like geniuses in comparison.

      The average marijuana user just tends to be a bit more relaxed, giggly and goofy and most likely lacking in concentration but at least aware of these shortcomings.

      Stoned people seem to lose certain asepcts of their personality.

      What parts of their personalities would this be? Because I can't say I've observed this outside of state-sponsored anti-drug propaganda.

      IQ? Sure, maybe that doesn't go down. But IQ isn't all you want your doctor to be. You'd also like to have your doctor, say, empathetic to your pain, realize what time it is,...

      Most people don't become emotionless zombies when they are under the influence of cannabis (unless we are talking about the aforementioned state-sponsored propaganda). If anything most people become more emotional after smoking marijuana (but will seem "emotionless" when asked to take out the trash or clean the dishes, sort of like how someone who is drunk will laugh similar things off while under the influence).

      As for perception of time, cannabis does impair your ability to keep track of time but unless we're talking about a doctor who's so stoned he/she can't stand up then this really isn't that much of an issue. It's a much bigger issue when you have nothing important to do and you forget to go out and buy more soda before the grocery store closes because you're "busy" watching a movie.

      etc. Really tired people don't seem to have quite the same brain "skew" that someone who is stoned does.

      Obviously the effect isn't the same, but I'd rather be in the hands of a doctor who's had a few hits of a joint an hour ago than a doctor who's been up since yesterday morning.

      /Mikael

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  2. Roles by Pantero+Blanco · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't this just different age groups acting out their normal roles?

    The young take the world as they see it and learn from it, adults try to use it productively, and elders warn people about observed and potential dangers.

    1. Re:Roles by jbezorg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's more like....

      Equal parts of wisdom...

      The young take the world as they see it and learn from it, adults try to use it productively, and elders warn people about observed and potential dangers.

      and ignorance...

      The young think they know everything and the older generations are out of touch.
      The adults think they know everything. The older generation is out of touch and the younger generation is inexperienced.
      The elders think they know everything and the younger generations are inexperienced.

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  3. Re:Good quote by Jawn98685 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, and you probably still think digital watches were a good idea...

  4. Gessner's Book Arguing Against Books? by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny
    From the article:

    A respected Swiss scientist, Conrad Gessner, might have been the first to raise the alarm about the effects of information overload. In a landmark book, he described how the modern world overwhelmed people with data ... His warnings referred to the seemingly unmanageable flood of information unleashed by the printing press.

    So he chose to release his findings in the exact form of what was 'overloading people with information'? A printed book?

    Boy I'd like to design that back cover:

    "Find out how things like this very book you hold in your hands right now is destroying your mind and plaguing you with confusing and harmful thoughts ..."

    "You'll pick it up, read it, burn it and never read another book again!"

    "Tell your neighbors to buy this book so you can outsmart them and take their cattle!"

    "Your feudal lord's new tool of oppression: Printed word?"

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  5. Re:Good quote by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I Can't imagine a technology that I would ever be suspicious of though, but then again I'm a nerd.

    Really?

    Nothing at all? I'm only 21 and I'm already suspicious of half the patent filings that get reported on here.

  6. Reinventing the Wheel by benjamindees · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For some reason, and I still do not understand exactly why, people tend to re-invent things. Once you have seen this happen a few times, you don't tend to be impressed with every latest doo-dad.

    As for the reason, there are lots of factors. But the ultimate factor is that nothing is really permanent, certainly not humans but not even ideas. Communication and education have high costs. Information storage degrades, in human memory and in physical forms. Even interpretation of long-stored information is a challenge. There are all sorts of incentives not to share innovation, both inherent and by design of various political and economic systems.

    If you're being sold a better video player or a better cheeseburger, it might actually be better for you. But it is almost as likely to be worse. It may not even be better for the person who created it. It may just be newer instead of better. Progress is not a given, and the vast majority of people ("consumers") tend to be uncritical automatons.

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  7. Trouble is on the production side by Animats · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's more trouble on the supply side than on the consumption side.

    The problem with news is that the pundit/reporter ratio has swung way too far in the pundit direction. There are too few people out digging up info, and too many people analyzing it. "News is what someone doesn't want published. All else is publicity." With so much incoming free information, willingness to pay people to go out and dig up real news has declined substantially. It takes minutes to rewrite a paragraph from a press release. It takes days of work to get the information for a real story.

    Look at the front page of Google News. How many of those stories started as a press release? Most of them. Sometimes, all of them.

    In the heyday of newspapers (say, 1880 to 1950), the printing process was far more labor-intensive. As a result, reporters were a small fraction of the payroll, and keeping head count down on the reporting side wasn't top priority. Most newspapers had reporting, editing, composing, and printing all in the same building or adjacent buildings. The big part of the business was printing and distribution.

    Today, printing plants are remote, have few people, and may be outsourced. Composing is automated. Editorial is mostly automated; text goes from reporter to printed page without much editing. So reporting is the big labor cost. And it's so easy to just tap into some feed and pump it out to the printing plant.

    Blogging isn't helping. It's mostly punditry and self-publicity.

    That's where information overload is hurting. Information wants to be free, but free information is self-serving.

  8. Not buying it by John+Guilt · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Sure, people have been claiming that we're close to the precipice for sheer ages, but that doesn't mean that big changes have arrived. I think the transition from hand-made books to printed books is orders of magnitude less dangerous than the sudden profusion of realistic images of things real and unreal. The most the former required was getting it into your gut that not every book was deemed a Very Important Book; the latter means that the apparent evidence of our senses no longer can be trusted, even as the scepticism needed to distrust is dampened by the profusion.

    Yes, people can tell movies and television from real life, but repeated exposure really seems to have an effect. (Example: people think violent crime, and murder in particular, is much more common than in all but the poorest and least {cared-about-by-the-powerful} areas; why? ---because they've seen it, night after night, year after year, and the skill to avoid being influenced by this false evidence was not needed in the Serengeti.) It is certainly possible to over-influence people with words alone, but I can't shake the feeling that the reptile brain is privileged by The Image.

    On the other hand, maybe people will be less influence by television and radio once they've gained the experience of making their own.

  9. Perception vs reality by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Interesting

    'The writer Douglas Adams observed how technology that existed when we were born seems normal, anything that is developed before we turn 35 is exciting, and whatever comes after that is treated with suspicion.'

    The thing is technology that we are aware of that existed when we were born and is still in use when we get old enough to really think about it is proven. It works and gets the job done.
    When new technology is developed before we turn 35 (or some other age, it started to happen for me when I was in my 20s) we see its possibilities and how it will change the world. We tend not to see its short comings, or how it solves a problem that nobody has. Additionally, while we are in that age, we have to spend as much time learning how to use existing technology as we do new technology, so they are equal footing.
    After 35 (or whatever age this revelation occurs to the individual), you start to see how some new technology has the same sort of problems that some previous "new" technology had such that the previous "new" technology never worked out. Additionally, new technology means you have to learn a new way to do something where you had mastered the old way.

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