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Microsoft Confirms Update-Linked BSODs Required Compromised Machines

Trailrunner7 writes "Microsoft on Thursday confirmed that the blue screen of death issues that affected a slew of users after the latest batch of Patch Tuesday updates is the result of an existing infection by the Alureon rootkit. There was widespread speculation after the patch release that simply installing the MS10-015 update was causing the BSOD condition on some Windows 32-bit machines. However, Microsoft said at the time this was not the case and started an investigation into the problem. In an advisory released Thursday, the company said that it now was confident that the restart problem is being caused by the Alureon rootkit." That seems a harsh way to find out that your Windows machine has been rooted.

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  1. But better than not finding out at all. by dmgxmichael · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now, I wonder who the first poster is going to be to demand Microsoft test their patches for compatibility with viruses and malware?

    1. Re:But better than not finding out at all. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The rootkitted library was not a part of the update, just one of the libraries it was using. You should demand that your rootkit vendor stick to published APIs to avoid this in the future.

    2. Re:But better than not finding out at all. by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Informative

      Don't worry, it looks like the malware authors have already rushed out an update for their rootkit
      http://www.prevx.com/blog/143/BSOD-after-MS-TDL-authors-apologize.html

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    3. Re:But better than not finding out at all. by lgw · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, they do. However, Windows Update will apply patches before doing malware removal - I've never quite understood why that was the preferred order.

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    4. Re:But better than not finding out at all. by poena.dare · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dear Microsoft:

      Please continue to turn off user's computers which are compromised. If at all possible, please display a message directing anyone in my zip code that I'm available to fix it for them at competitive prices. I really need the work.

  2. Not that harsh by bigredradio · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah a BSOD is harsh, but finding your bank account mysteriously drained of funds is more harsh. At least they found out.

  3. Better than not knowing that you've been rooted by jandrese · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The bluescreen may be painful, but it is far less painful than having your information stolen by criminals. Assuming of course the people who own the machines are savvy enough to properly install their firewalls and virus protection next time.

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    1. Re:Better than not knowing that you've been rooted by Locutus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      it was probably about 6 years ago when a number of goverment offices American Express, and others including CNN had their computers BSODing. CNN even stayed on the air for a few hours just talking about how the computers were all rebooting. The cause of that was that the computers were part of a botnet and an update to the botnet caused BSODs.
      In plain language, many government computers and businesses computers have been infected without them knowing it. And as I mentioned, large companies with financial ties like American Express. You can not secure Windows without unplugging it from the network. There was a CIO of one company which got hacked and he ended up quiting saying something much the same. Businesses who insist on Windows are insisting on something which is very very difficult to secure.

      Now I wonder if this is what took out all those Norfolk VA computers. The ones which it was said that they don't think it was something they got off the internet but in the same breath said they don't know what caused it or how it got there.

      LoB

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    2. Re:Better than not knowing that you've been rooted by bertok · · Score: 4, Informative

      it was probably about 6 years ago when a number of goverment offices American Express, and others including CNN had their computers BSODing. CNN even stayed on the air for a few hours just talking about how the computers were all rebooting. The cause of that was that the computers were part of a botnet and an update to the botnet caused BSODs.
      In plain language, many government computers and businesses computers have been infected without them knowing it. And as I mentioned, large companies with financial ties like American Express. You can not secure Windows without unplugging it from the network. There was a CIO of one company which got hacked and he ended up quiting saying something much the same. Businesses who insist on Windows are insisting on something which is very very difficult to secure.

      Oh, I assure you, they know about it. They're just too incompetent to do anything about it.

      I was once at a large bank, and I was warned not to plug my laptop into the bank's network. At first I was thinking "this must be for security reasons, they clearly don't (and shouldn't) trust some random consultant's laptop on their network", but then I was told that it was for my own protection. Apparently the bank network was so lousy with viruses that a laptop without the latest patches would last only minutes before it was rooted. I keep my work laptop patched, so I did plug in. I ran Wireshark for a few minutes, which detected about a dozen hack attempts on my machine. On top of this, many of their servers were running ancient versions of windows, many at RTM patch levels. I suspect they were all infected, but I didn't have a chance to look into it.

      It's not just one or two financial institutions, from what I gather, many of the larger ones have infections.

      This is what excessive bureaucracy does to IT: the amount of paper work required to approve a patch is so onerous that IT managers simply don't patch servers. The paper work is meant to prevent the minor problem of 'unapproved' patches causing disruptions, but the end result is even worse, which is unpatched machines with rampant infections.

  4. Most effective mechanism for making a safer 'net by Nzimmer911 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think that this approach should become the industry standard for retaliation against malware. What better way to force complacent users to cleanup their machines than to disable them? Less botnets = more bandwidth for the rest of us.

  5. Don't worry by wiredog · · Score: 5, Informative

    The malware has been updated so that it won't cause a crash.

  6. Be Gentle by e2d2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    That seems a harsh way to find out that your Windows machine has been rooted.

    What do you want? Some cuddling before breaking the bad news?

    "Sweety.. you got rooted" .. as it goes in the _wrong_ hole.

  7. Re:No Worries by snowraver1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Prompt, efficient and convienient! Where can I buy this Root Kit?

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  8. Malicious Software Removal Tool by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    So is Microsoft rushing out an update to their Malicious Software Removal Tool to clean up this rootkit?

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  9. Zero-day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This was a zero-day exploit that the virus writers didn't know anything about.

    They got the patch out as quickly as they could.

  10. Re:Dumbass users.. by jimicus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    48 hours ago I was notified of a laptop with a rootkit.

    And I can tell you now, that laptop wasn't running slowly.

    It wasn't redirecting web requests.

    It wasn't doing any of the things you might associate with rootkits. Yet replacing the AV with an alternate product and the alternate product detected several real issues.

    Frankly, if I hadn't been notified by our bank (whose security company had managed to get a site shutdown and get a list of all potentially compromised accounts) I would never have had a clue. I concede that the user had admin privs on their laptop but I'm given to understand that even that isn't a huge barrier to a lot of modern rootkits. Thank Christ the bank in question doesn't allow you to do anything without the use of a separate security device they ship you.

    Talk about a rock and a hard place. I can't trust the laptop at all, and it was infected while running a regularly-updated copy of Symantec AV Enterprise which suggests I can't necessarily rely on AV software to do what it says on the tin. Windows is obviously a lost cause unless I want to spend the rest of my live playing whack-a-mole yet I don't think the Powers that Be will stomach a move to Linux (even though most of them haven't used Windows-specific software in years).

    Answers on the back of a postcard....