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Sony Joins the Offensive Against Pre-Owned Games

BanjoTed writes "In a move to counter sales of pre-owned games, EA recently revealed DLC perks for those who buy new copies of Mass Effect 2 and Battlefield: Bad Company 2. Now, PlayStation platform holder Sony has jumped on the bandwagon with similar plans for the PSP's SOCOM: Fireteam Bravo 3. '[Players] will need to register their game online before they are able to access the multiplayer component of the title. UMD copies will use a redeemable code while the digital version will authenticate automatically in the background. Furthermore ... anyone buying a pre-owned copy of the game will be forced to cough up $20 to obtain a code to play online."

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  1. Weeeellllllllll. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If memory serves, isn't the PSP one of those systems it's (relatively) easy to pirate for?

    I have a feeling Sony has traded getting no money from resales to getting no money because everyone's downloading a cracked version.

  2. It benefits the consumer, really. by Posting=!Working · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Koller is also confident that consumers will react well to the news - despite the fact that Ubisoft was forced to defend its proposition in the face of angry gamers. "From our research, this will be received quite positively," he insisted.

    They really are completely delusional. What benefit does this provide to the consumers that they'll react positively to? Is there even any theoretical benefit to the consumer? Maybe the research was done entirely among Sony executives.

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  3. Re:Someone doesn't like second hand market? by Custard+Horse · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How long before there is a class action lawsuit against Sony for articifically reducing the value of assets that are purchased in good faith. What happens if you wish to sell your PS3 and all of the games? The package will be devalued by the amount of resubscriptions required for the online games.

  4. Digging their own grave by mkintigh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nothing like discouraging people from wanting to buy their product -- new or used. I knew Sony was an evil empire (coming from someone that worked for them far too long), but this is just stupid.

  5. Re:Bypassing doctrine of first sale by HungryHobo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know car analogies are old on slashdot but I seriously wonder how long before car manufacturers start building the electronic components of their cars such that they are needlessly dependent on some online system run by the manufacturer so that your fuel indicator only works correctly if your car has been able to update this month from the manufacurers online fuel level measuring methods database and your aircon shuts down unless authenticated with a secure server on a regular basis as a "car theft prevention measure".

    Idiot lawmakers make bypassing or removing the "anti car theft" systems for any reason a crime.
    Drivers pay through the nose to have an account with the manufacturer.
    Manufacturers get more profit since now people have an incentive to not buy used cars.
    Shills start trolling car enthusiast message boards talking about how it's a good thing because this way the car companies get more money to build better cars and everyone wins except those dirty car thieves.

    I can honestly see it happening.

  6. Re:Someone doesn't like second hand market? by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How long before there is a class action lawsuit against Sony for articifically reducing the value of assets that are purchased in good faith. What happens if you wish to sell your PS3 and all of the games? The package will be devalued by the amount of resubscriptions required for the online games.

    And that's grounds for legal action because? Sony is not stopping you from reselling the games; just not letting you transfer the subscription; something you knew when you bought the game.

    A flip side to this is it benefits someone who doesn't play online - used game prices will drop to accommodate the subscription fee; and if you don't plan to play online you now have a code that you can sell to someone who bought a used game. Either way your price for the game would drop if you don't play online.

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  7. Re:Someone doesn't like second hand market? by Daengbo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I don't want to play online, am I allowed to return the code to Sony for a $20 refund? I should be.

  8. EA/Bioware compared to Sony by C0R1D4N · · Score: 4, Insightful

    EA/Bioware adds little perks for people who buy the retail version of the game or preorder it even (a suit of armor, a downloadable character) that you really want to have in a game you have a strong desire to play (Dragon Age, Mass Effect 2). Sony utterly gimps your gameplay experience. I am not bothered by one (and hell think it's a good idea) guess which one that is.

  9. Re:Someone doesn't like second hand market? by sosume · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Sony is not stopping you from reselling the games; just not letting you transfer the subscription; something you knew when you bought the game.

    Online play is a part of the game as advertised on the retail box. Therefore barring use from another machine is a crime on Sony's part. There is no "subscription' - I'm not paying Sony to play this game, I paid the store and online play was included.

    What if my PS3 breaks down due to a technical failure and Sony's warranty replaces the unit. I would then have to pay $20 again for each game?

  10. Re:Bypassing doctrine of first sale by Carewolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It doesnt bypass anything. The first sale doctrine still applies, and Sony has to allow the transfer of DLC to other accounts. Of course someone has to sue them first to force them to respect the law, until that happens they can flaunt the law all they want.

  11. Re:Used games are not harming the New Game Market! by GospelHead821 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    By the reasoning that you've used, I think that one has to endorse what Sony's doing here. After reading through most of the comments, I think I do anyway. All Sony's doing, after all, is competing more effectively. Their competitor is a reseller. Therefore, is there really anything wrong with Sony creating a product that is more useful when purchased new than when purchased from their competitor? Let's try a different spin on this: Sony isn't selling crippled software. They're selling software bundled with a one-time use subscription code. $30 for the software, $20 for the code. Sorry, no refunds, though. If you're interested in just the single-player experience, you should buy the game used. It's fine if you choose to sell the software but the new user will also have to subscribe.

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  12. Re:More than that. by Gr8Apes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't buy a Sony TV because of my past experiences with Sony's car radios etc. The whole DRM thing is useful to tell the good ones from the bad ones.

    Having such cool products.... I wonder if they fully appreciate what they're doing to their brand.

    I don't buy Sony products because:

    • They have placed malignant rootkits on their audio CDs that compromised PCs
    • Their quality over a period dropped significantly from their heyday in the 70s-80s
    • They did underhanded deals to foist a sub-optimal solution (Blu-Ray) on everyone
    • They continue to champion DRM to screw their customers over under the guise of "sticking it to the pirates" when the only thing they're doing is moving the population towards acceptance of a pay to play revenue model
    • They are the reason we have Celine Dion

    I think any of those alone are enough reason to boycott any company. Put more than one into a single company and there's no excuse to buy anything from them.

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  13. It's cool, this is a shining example of capitalism by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They feel the need to screw their customers, and I feel the need not to buy their products.

    Shine on, Sony. Shine on.

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  14. Re:More than that. by jayme0227 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "They did underhanded deals to foist a sub-optimal solution (Blu-Ray) on everyone."

    After putting out a superior product in the days of VCR's and getting owned, they learned their lesson. This is the way business is done. You make the deals that you need to make in order to turn a profit.

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