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Officers Lose 243 Homeland Security Guns
In a screw up so big it could only be brought to you by the government or a famous athlete, 243 guns were lost by Homeland Security agencies between 2006 and 2008. 179 guns, were lost "because officers did not properly secure them," an inspector general report said. One of the worst examples of carelessness cites a customs officer who left a firearm in an idling vehicle in the parking lot of a convenience store. The vehicle was stolen while the officer was inside. "A local law enforcement officer later recovered the firearm from a suspected gang member and drug smuggler," the report said.
Some members of an organisation we don't like did something that is bad and which looks to work opposite to their general mission which makes them look stupid and hypocritical!
by the government of a famous athlete
I'm sure you had a joke in there that you were dying to get out, but this makes less than no sense.
The vehicle was stolen while the officer was inside.
Sleeping in the back seat again?
the number of DHS officers who were fired as well.
This is yet more proof, as if any more was needed, of government incompetence and stupidity. How can people continue to believe that the government would do a good job running health care, or indeed anything else, in the face of repeated demonstrations to the contrary? For another example, take the stimulus (which btw has largely failed to create jobs). Are we supposed to be happy that 20 new jobs were created in New Jersey, which received 99 million in stimulus dollars, at a cost of approximately 5 million per job? The best defense that our intrepid leaders can muster is, "well, it would have been much worse if we hadn't done anything". Does anyone here honestly believe that the next three years are going to be any better? The Obama administration has failed and we are paying for their failure. The Dems don't understand business and the private sector; they don't understand what actually generates wealth in this country because they themselves are destroyers, not creators, of wealth. The best that can be hopped for is that the people learn a hard lesson these next three years and don't make the mistake of trusting the likes of Nancy Pelosi, who has almost zero business experience, ever again.
Yup, we all do stupid things. Lose our car keys, forget to lock up our guns, dont wear a condom...
Oh, but when it comes to a cop, they better be more than perfect.
Just the other day a 3 year old shot themselves while attempting to get a gun from under their grandmothers couch.
So... yeah. If anything this just shows they need better weapons handling training. What? You think this was the first time someone did something stupid with a gun?
So, over 3 years, 179 / 188,500 weapons went missing, 0.09%, only slightly higher than the percentage eaten by beavers or flattened by steam rollers.
What a travesty. How could they have been so careless with our tax dollars. Let's impeach Obama.
=^P
Worse. Law enforcement Officer. EVAR.
(Ohhhh, wait, nm I see wut u did there...)
That would be cites, son.
Only America has famous athletes (Look at David Beckham--came to the US to become famous). Only the US Goverment can make mistakes this hillariously collosal. Thus, only famous athletes' government (the US) can do this.
QED
grammer nazi
That would be grammar, son.
And we really need this huge, bloated, self-justifying, all-powerful organism to run our health care system because...?
Python: 'And then suddenly you have a language which says "we're all stuck with whatever the whiniest coder wants".'
Yet another off-topic article. Or maybe /. has entirely become off-topic?
No, I didn't RTFA, but the summary doesn't even try to explain how this is affecting my rights, online or otherwise.
who care more about delivering value to stockholders, than delivering you life
the idea that there will be government death panels is hilarious, since we currently have corporate death panels: ex-nurses in cubicles looking at your list of CPT codes purposefully working hard to make sure you don't cost so much as you die
besides, i wonder if you've ever dealt with the maze of paperwork between hospitals, doctors, health insurers. now THAT'S a bloated bureaucracy. not that the feds won't indulge in odious amounts of waste, but it might actually be an improvement, since there are currently so many entities in the game throwing reams of paper at each other. and it would COST less, since there is no profit motive to run 900 tests on you every time you have a chest pain, while completely ignoring things like preventative medicine because its not profitable. instead, forcing uninsured diabetics to sit in expensive emergency rooms because they can't afford a doctor. which you pay for, and its more expensive. pathetic
no one says universal socialized healthcare is perfect. i advocate for it, and openly admit it would suck in many ways
the point is it would suck WAY LESS than the bullshit system we have no
so i accept admit and endorse every criticism of universal socialized healthcare you can imagine
and then challenge you to defend our current bullshit system as remotely better in any way
wake the fuck up
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Actually, this is very common.
Yes, but law enforcement vehicles which need to be left running are equipped with a lockout switch which keeps the engine running and the accessories energized without allowing the vehicle to be driven
You start the car normally, turn on the lockout switch, and then remove the ignition key. The car can be shut off by turning the lockout switch off, but it cannot be restarted or driven without the ignition key.
There's never a good reason to leave the keys in a running and unattended vehicle. This is what the officer in question did.
Putting moderation advice in your
Did they check behind the sofa?
I care not for your karma and your mod points.
You know the kind, if you don't participate more than mere "cooperation" in an investigation of dispute, then why do they have evidence of you stalking those officers and where did you rob this Dep. H.S. gun from?
Did you find it just recently sir and want to return it to us out of concern for national security, and maybe do a little more than the statutory "cooperation" in regards to this?
sir, confesss!
PS: those missing Guns always show-up on dead bodies, just like in Los Angeles and Jew York.
... in turning the criminal underground into a polite, well-armed society.
Isn't that what the anti-control lobby is arguing for?
The correct statistic would be to compare this with how many DHS agent there is. If 0.09% is the number of weapon lost by DHS agent in average anmd there are 185K total lsot by all enforcement agency , civilian etc... Then we can then see if DHS agent are in average MORE careless than the population, or less careless. Since tehre are obviously less than 0.09% DHS agent in the U ( 300 000 000 * 0.0009 = 270 000) then we can assume DHS agent are more careless. Therefore they are incompetent.
These days practically ever gun comes with a (sometimes cheap) trigger lock, we're bombarded with "think of the children, lock up your guns" advertisements, some states/cities even have specific laws criminalizing not having your guns under lock and key. And yet hear we are, guns left in running cars, guns left out in the open, guns forgotten in yards, all by LEO's who spend a lot of their time chastising the rest of us for being irresponsible. Kinda reminds me of the whole "don't talk on your mobile phone while driving" campaign going around, despite the fact that several times a month I see officers driving 35-45MPH in a 25 zone while talking on one of the things. And they wonder why a lot of people don't trust them.
Note: I know some of this rant doesn't apply specifically to Federal but I kinda doubt it really matters
Actually, the countries where socialized health care works are ones that are racially homogenous.
The border guards can have my laptop if I get their gun?
I have mod points and I am not afraid to use them.
That number looks big but that's out of hundreds of thousands of weapons. It just shows that a) they are victims of theft themselves on occasion and b) they loose shit occasionally just like everyone else does.
Sure it would be great if the number of lost weapons were zero but ...
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1. Buy cheap gloves und wear them. ;)
2. Steal HS gun.
3. Shoot Cheney.
4. Put HS gun back.
5. Burn gloves
6. Give the media a anonymous tip.
7. Rinse, and repeat (with another real douche)
8. Watch them beat the shit out of each other with accusations.
9. Be quick, before they can react with new rules.
10. PROFIT.
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
The government and police lose guns (including machine guns) all the time. It hrdly ever makes the news, it's just a well-known dirty little secret.
Affirmative Action: The basic cause of police departments' quality decay in the 20th century.
Hiring the Best Cops has taken back seat to fulfilling the quota, it's just that simple. This is compounded by CPB (Border Patrol) and ICE, whose employees are heavily slanted to the Hispanic race, undoubtedly as a natural result of their (language) skills--i.e. relating to the people they're expected to deal with. Case in point: a recent border patrol memo said that about 49% of the employees of these agencies are themselves Hispanic, constituting a strong majority.
I don't have a real problem with this, at a basic level it's sound: it's strongly likely a niche is being filled (particularly in the language department)... And I honestly don't care about the race issue--even though it does occur to me that there could be a real instance of "the fox guarding the hen's house" going on here.
Anyway, my point: An officer's overall dutifulness should be paramount among their expected qualifications when they are hired, but it's rarely the case today. When a police force *HAS* to choose an officer who's lazy, inattentive, or even only passingly familiar with their weapons--versus an officer of some other race, who really can demonstrate dutifulness and proficiency in his job... You get situations just like this in greater numbers when you take quality out of the mix.
And believe me, if you've seen some things I've seen my fellow cops do with their weapons--if you weren't in favor of civilians being armed (perhaps because they're supposedly not trained well enough), you should know that many of my fellow officers are only fleetingly capable with their sidearms. I have no doubt that the average citizen with a concealed weapon, even while not having the benefit of formal training is probably a better shot, and handles their weapons more safely than some of my compatriots.
Usually, when I see something stupid, it's either done by a Latino or a woman (who's probably also Latino). Not being a supremacist douche bag, I just calls it as I sees it. Frankly, it's disturbing. It's utterly surprising that more officers aren't wounded and/or killed by their own, and that they don't (negligently) lose their weapons more frequently.