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Details Emerge On EU-Only "Browser Choice" Screen For Windows

Simmeh writes "Microsoft have posted screenshots and details on their upcoming 'web browser choice screen.' Requirements include being in Europe, and having Internet Explorer set as your default browser. It comes with a few surprises, as the software automatically unpins Internet Explorer from your taskbar, and offers 11 alternative browsers."

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  1. /.'d already? by drachenstern · · Score: 2, Informative

    The link isn't working, taking way too long... did we really /.-effect a Microsoft server? Too funny. Although, it's most likely not on the main Microsoft cloud.

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  2. Mirror.... by ZiakII · · Score: 5, Informative

    The site with the picture did not load for me, I found the image on The Register with story listed here.

  3. Re:Post-ballot data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Seems to present IE completely equitably with the other browsers. They show in random order with similar sized logos and all. In the Gizmodo screen shot, Google Chrome is first, followed by Firefox, then Safari, IE, and Opera. http://gizmodo.com/5475490/microsofts-impartial-antitrust+friendly-browser-ballot-screen. Doesn't seem like a slam dunk at all that people would choose IE from this.

  4. Re:More to come by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2, Informative

    Support as in "computer doesn't work" phone support. OEMs provide first line of that for Windows on those PCs they sell at the moment.

  5. Re:11 browsers by drachenstern · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2009/07/28/browser-ballot-screen-isn-t-just-for-windows-7.aspx

    who has time to do that? I'll just point to something that's more than 6 months old (albeit this one mentions just 10, other sources shortly thereafter were mentioning 11 or more such as
    http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/12/18/0210240/How-Europes-Mandated-Browser-Ballot-Screen-Works
    http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142416/FAQ_How_the_IE_ballot_screen_works
    which listed:

    The first five are Apple's Safari, Google's Chrome, Microsoft's IE, Mozilla's Firefox and Opera. On a second screen, the ballot will list AOL, Maxthon, K-Meleon, Flock, Avant Browser, Sleipnir and SlimBrowser.

    so ...)

    It also would appear as though Microsoft wanted to do a "top ten" http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2009/jul09/07-24statement.mspx so I believe that they are using the "top ten" plus IE8, thus making 11.

    Also, it's important to note that three or four of these browsers (at a minimum) are rebranded IE experiences, using the IE rendering engine. A couple are rebranded Firefox builds.

    Also:
    http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/07/24/1927255/Microsoft-Agrees-To-EU-Browser-Ballot-Screen?from=rss

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  6. The link by ivonic · · Score: 5, Informative

    You could just visit the browser ballot page directly.

    For reference, the browsers listed are IE, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Opera, Flock, FlashPeak, K-Meleon, Avant, Maxthon, Sleipnir & GreenBrowser

  7. Re:Does IE "security" sabotage Firefox download? by dan828 · · Score: 3, Informative

    IE on a server install is locked up tightly. You know, to let you know that you shouldn't be surfing the web on your server anyways, what with security issues and the like. Do a google search for "2008 server as a workstation" to find some helpful tutorials for turning that security off.

  8. Re:Does IE "security" sabotage Firefox download? by ashridah · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is actually a feature, as other posters have pointed out. It's called Internet explorer Enhanced Security or somesuch. You can disable it as a feature in Win2k8/Win2k3 via various means if you really want to use win2k8 as a desktop. Basically, it's the server's way of telling you you shouldn't be browsing the web, and if you try to, it's going to pester you about everything you visit.

    It's a reasonable "duh" saftey net, imho, and sufficiently annoying enough to remember to minimize the RDP session and use your desktop.

  9. Irrelevent by pavon · · Score: 5, Informative

    The 5 most popular are shown when the window first opens (in random order), you have to scroll over to see the rest. Furthermore, it can't be an evil scheme by Microsoft as it wasn't their choice - the idea, the criteria for browser selection, and the ordering of the browsers were forced on them by the EU

  10. Re:Does IE "security" sabotage Firefox download? by cbhacking · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm trying to figure out how he didn't see the Enhanced Security warning screen... you know, the one that pops up the first time you start IE (and subsequently, if you don't turn off the warning) and tells you various things (including that downloading is restricted and security settings are very high). It also tells you how to turn off this feature, if you want to...

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  11. Re:Apple choice? by DavidRawling · · Score: 3, Informative

    No, because Apple is not a monopolist in that space. The fact that they force a browser on the device they sell (Safari) and didn't permit others, for a long time (has anyone seen competing browsers in the app store?) is completely different from Microsoft shipping their browser as part of the OS and the default browser, and permitting the user to install new browsers for the past 14 years.

  12. Re:Post-ballot data by moronoxyd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Those Governments are unlikely to lose votes or support when they crush you (a foreigner) for misbehaving despite you trying to use some loophole.

    Why do Americans think that the EU is only crushing American companies?
    They apply the rules equaly to European companies as well.
    Last year a German and a French energy company where fined half a billion Euros each for violating antitrust laws: http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/09/1099

  13. Re:11 browsers by Shimbo · · Score: 4, Informative

    11 browsers? how many of them have >1%market penetration? This is going to confuse the less versed users

    Well they say 11 but it's 5 + 6 really. That is, they are randomly placed but in two groups - the big 5: IE, Chrome, Safari, Opera, Firefox are the only ones visible without scrolling. Most people aren't going to look at the 'below the fold" browsers.

  14. Huh... the site's already online... by netsharc · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just noticed the URL in the screenshot: www.browserchoice.eu, and the site is already online!

    On the first load, it gave me the choices in the order similar to the screenshot, interestingly enough.

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