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Utah Considers Warrantless Internet Subpoenas

seneces writes "The Utah State Legislature is considering a bill granting the Attorney General's Office the ability to demand customer information from Internet or cell phone companies via an administrative subpoena, with no judicial review (text of the HB150). This represents an expansion of a law passed last year, which granted that ability when 'it is suspected that a child-sex crime has been committed.' Since becoming law, last year's bill has led to more than one non-judicial request per day for subscriber information. Pete Ashdown, owner of a local ISP and 2006 candidate for the US Senate, has discussed his position and the effects of this bill."

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  1. BB by muckracer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As always, Big Brother comes in small, fairly digestible steps. Note
    the progression below:

    > Last year, the Legislature granted prosecutors subpoena power
    > when they suspect a child-sex crime has been committed.

    Here it was one crime...of course the one, where it's really hard to
    say no to such a bill. Then we continue, as is not just to be
    expected but a given:

    > Daw's bill initially had sought to expand the authority to any
    > crime, but committee members balked at such broad power last
    > Friday. His amended bill limits the power to suspected felonies
    > and two misdemeanors -- cyber-stalking and cyber-harassment.

    So now it's child-sex crimes + SUSPECTED felonies + 2 misdemeanors.

    In a couple of years, give or take, it'll become standard-operating
    procedure applying at will to *everyone*. And that, ladies and
    gentlemen, is the problem with taking away basic rights from the
    people. It will always get worse, because nobody wants to lose their
    shiny new toys anymore that give you almost god-power over other's.
    Except, of course, you're in Soviet Russia. There Big Brother
    doesn't subpoena your ISP records but the actual user for, uh,
    re-education. A bit more of this stuff above and we'll be there too.

  2. I hate people that prey on the defensless, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I agree with H.L. Mencken when he said:
    "The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all."

    And to the AG I say get a real warrant if you suspect someone of committing a crime. If you can't prove that to a judge move on to another case.

  3. Re: Child abuse is the new Godwin. by Duradin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not that my opinion ever matters to the talking heads on tv but whenever someone uses something along the "think of the children" line (in a non-satirical way) I consider their argument lost.

    Someone should pass a law enforcing that. If you use a "think of the children" argument you lose. And you get ground glass poured in your eyes.

  4. Re:Apparently Constitution doesn't apply in Utah by iluvcapra · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is the same Utah that is about to pass a law stating that a woman who has a miscarriage "recklessly" is liable to a murder charge. The legislature probably relishes the idea of mandatory pregnancy testing in order to properly enforce the law...

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    Don't blame me, I voted for Baltar.