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Copernicium Confirmed As Element 112

Several sources are reporting that the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry has confirmed Copernicium as element 112 on the periodic table of elements with the symbol Cn. "The naming of the new element will be the culmination of a long, fraught journey involving fierce competition, dashed hopes, clever detective work and even a brush with scientific misconduct. With a nucleus containing 112 protons — 20 more than uranium, the heaviest of the naturally occurring elements — it will be the weightiest atom whose existence has been confirmed so far."

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  1. Take that china by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now there will never be a chinesium (although i guess we could re-name lead).

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    1. Re:Take that china by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      try missedthejoke.cn

    2. Re:Take that china by Dancindan84 · · Score: 4, Informative

      .cn is the country code top-level domain for China. He was making a joke. /whoosh

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    3. Re:Take that china by prod-you · · Score: 2, Funny

      Whoosh

    4. Re:Take that china by beav007 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not to mention the lead the Chinese Government sends its own citizens. Usually at high speed...

    5. Re:Take that china by M1FCJ · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, England is only one of the nations of United Kingdom. there's also Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland (although that's in dispute for a while). Scotland and NI already have their own devolved parliaments and Wales will get one at one point. I'm sure you'd be very popular in the north of the border and call the place England.

  2. Later that night... by weaponx86 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Uranium was seen at a local club with Copernicium, probably to make her feel better about herself.

    1. Re:Later that night... by Rei · · Score: 3, Informative

      Interestingly enough, uranium isn't the heaviest naturally occurring element. It occurs in two ways. One is extremely small amounts of natural Pu-244 The other is muromontite, which is a beryllium and sometimes uranium-containing form of allanite, making it a natural breeder reactor.

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  3. On Earth by ircmaxell · · Score: 2, Insightful

    20 more than uranium, the heaviest of the naturally occurring elements

    Minor quibble... it's the heavies of the naturally occurring elements on Earth. Heaver elements usually require different conditions (higher energy levels, gravity differences, etc) that can be found on earth. But there's nothing to say they can't be found elsewhere...

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    1. Re:On Earth by ircmaxell · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, a lot more than you'd think. First, there's the analyzing of Emission Spectrum from distant worlds and stars. Second, there have been several probes to the moon, mars and other celestial bodies that have attempted to (and some succeeded) look at and identify the chemical makeup of what it was looking at. Third (as if that wasn't enough) we have theoretical physicists that can (and do) calculate the makeup of the rest of the known (and known) universe. So surely it does matter to SOME people...

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    2. Re:On Earth by reverseengineer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And (even more minor quibble) it's not even technically true that uranium is the heaviest naturally occurring element on earth. Trace amounts of some transuranic elements are found in deposits of uranium ore, particularly at the natural nuclear reactor at Oklo, Gabon as a result of neutron irradiation of uranium, the same principle as used in breeder reactors.

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    3. Re:On Earth by wizardforce · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Except that the larger elements have much shorter half-lives. Unless there's a stable (or nearly so) element, we won't find anything hiher than ~Americium we won't find a quantity of higher elements worth mentioning. Uranium is the heaviest element in nature in any quantity (Plutonium and Americium occur in trace quantities due to spontaneous fission and the neutron irradiation that results) Supernovae and black holes might have the conditions neccessary to forge super heavy elements but the stability of these elements is the real problem.

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    4. Re:On Earth by mister_playboy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hey jackass, how many people do we have trying to identify new elements anywhere else besides Earth?

      Actually, Helium was discovered not on Earth, but the Sun.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium

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  4. Re:But But but by Fluffeh · · Score: 2, Funny

    What about ununbium?

    Can't be worse than Unobtainium *gag*.

    Thankyou Avatar, for the dumbest name of a substance in movie history.

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  5. Re:The naming was the easy part! by raftpeople · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think there was a commercial on QVC last night for some jewelry made of this stuff.

  6. another name that would have been good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Fibonaccium

  7. Re:But But but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Unobtanium has been around for far longer than Avatar.

    see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtanium

  8. Re:But But but by perlchild · · Score: 4, Informative

    Avatar wasn't the first use of that, they actually reused a name that had been used in literature for decades...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium

  9. Re:natural? by EdZ · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's theorised that somewhere in the 1xx range lies one or more "islands of stability", where one or more undiscovered heavy elements exist with either very long half-lives, or stable nuclei.

  10. Re:Cool name by bcmm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...remind me again, what did Copernicus do that was related to nuclear physics?

    Element names are used to honour people and places for all sorts of reasons, and Copernicus clearly deserves it.

    Röntgen's contributions were not exactly nuclear physics either, and Alfred Nobel wasn't even a physicist (neither was Vasili Samarsky-Bykhovets).

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  11. Re:But But but by Rei · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On the other hand, they had a pretty interesting scientific backstory for the movie. When I was watching the movie, when the guy set down the "unobtanium" on a platform and it floated, I immediately thought, "Huh... I bet that's supposed to be a room-temperature superconductor. Which would explain the demand." And indeed, that's exactly the intent. According to the backstory, part of the reason for the intense initial interest in the moon was the very high magnetic field strength it displayed. And since superconductors expel magnetic fields, leading to stable levitation, the floating mountains and continents are actually scientifically plausible in such a scenario. The very high magnetic field and the presence of the moon orbiting in the radiation belt of a gas giant leads to very high levels of ionizing radiation at the poles and at the intense local distortions in the magnetic field from the "unobtanium" -- to the degree that they're not just deadly, but also lead to a large current flowing through the planet.

    The explanation for the mineral name is that scientists frustrated on Earth used began using the name "unobtanium" in reference to high temperature superconductors (before stable versions were found on Pandora) that it stuck.

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  12. Re:But But but by Cryacin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Exactly you can find it right between the unaffordium and the baloneyum.

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  13. Uranium Not The Heaviest Natural Element On Earth by careysub · · Score: 3, Informative

    Since plutonium, element 93, is found in uranium ores (being bred there by neutron capture) and Pu-244 (half-life 80.8 million years) has also survived in detectable quantities from the formation of the Earth, uranium is not the heaviest natural element on Earth.

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  14. Re:But But but by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah, I've used Unobtainium for years, and everyone here at work knows what's meant. (Admittedly, I'm an Engineer.) Okay, not quite true, as two foreign Engineers didn't know what it was.

    In Avatar, Unobtanium was the McGuffin -- it didn't matter what it was, just that there was a reason that Homo Sapiens was on a different, hostile planet that wasn't for xenorelations. Water's plentiful on comets, any minerals would be easier to get from asteroids, since there's way less of a gravity well, and so the only reason we'd be there is either to talk to aliens or to get a rare material.

    A room-temperature superconductor is pretty much the Holy Grail of Physics.

    It doesn't explain why the humans didn't just take the mountains and / or use orbital bombardment.

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  15. copper by yoyoq · · Score: 2, Insightful

    copernicus was named after copper (dad was a copper smith or something) so this makes two elements named after copper. not very original.

  16. Re:The naming was the easy part! by zygotic+mitosis · · Score: 2, Informative

    Naming, yes. The summary is badly informed! The synthesis of element 112 has been confirmed for quite a while. The only story here is that IUPAC has officially endorsed a name for it.

  17. Re:What about... by kenj0418 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The element of surprise?

    It has an atomic weight of: 0.o

  18. Copernicium by physburn · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Sound two much like copper. But of course Copernicus was such champion of science that he well deserves a element named after him. Elements 110 and 114 are special numbers of protons. So with the right number of Neutrons an isotope of Coperniclum may be somewhat stable. Most of the Elements heavier that 100 decay in milliseconds. The right number of neutrons is something like 184, so its Cp-296 that is golden target to look for. So far nuclear scientists have not come anywhere near making an atom that neutron heavy.

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  19. Re:But But but by Rei · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd bet dollars to donuts that that particular plot element was thrown in at the last minute to explain why they had to bring along this incompetent, untrained grunt to take part in a scientific mission. If the didn't have the DNA requirement, they could have used anyone.

    I'm sure someone out there was reading over the script and said, "Hey, wait a minute -- why are they bringing HIM of all people?" To which Cameron probably debated the point for a while before ultimately conceding that they had to patch that issue.

    The plot to Avatar was nothing special -- pick trope, write script. What made the movie impressive, however, was not just top-notch graphics, but also excellent worldbuilding behind it.

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  20. Re:But But but by grcumb · · Score: 4, Funny

    Exactly you can find it right between the unaffordium and the baloneyum.

    Bloody Yanks - those of us who remember the Queen's English know it's spelled 'bolognium'...

    ... or was that 'bologniminium?'

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  21. Indeed he was by Kupfernigk · · Score: 2, Informative
    Look at my sig. I'm a systems modeler, and before that my work included research into copper alloys, so I borrowed Kupfernigk's actual name, not the Latinisation, for my sig (since he built a mathematical model of the Solar System). "Kupfer" is still the German word for copper.

    So, to nitpick, since transuranics use the actual form of scientist's names, it should really be Kupfernigkium, Kf.

    (Otherwise, Einsteinium would have to be Unopetrium.)

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  22. Re:Who is the 'heavy' here ? by Richy_T · · Score: 2, Informative

    Heaviest -> most massive, Densest -> most dense. No better wording needed. Especially given that it specifies "elements" and not "single element materials"

    You did remember to specify that your densities were at STP didn't you?