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Youtube Pulls Original "Rickroll" Video

@VentureBeat writes "Youtube pulled the original 'Rickroll' video Wednesday night. Don't worry, after a lot of email about the loss of such an important piece of cultural history, Youtube put it back up, saying that they're never gonna say goodbye to the video that's had over 30 million views."

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  1. Amazing How Long It's Gone On by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's amazing how far this has gone. I saw a 'live' rick roll on some Macy's parade on the internet and I've even seen really ingenious Rick Rolls that I must admit have been humorous. But I'm a little disappointed we've been stuck on one video as there are so many others to Rick Roll people with.

    Tommy Wiseau's The Room was shown on Adult Swim as an April Fool's day joke and if you think Rick Astley is cheesy you should check out the acting in this film. Be very careful and prepare yourself if you plan on watching the Rifftrax of it. I was in very serious physical pain from laughing so hard.

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    1. Re:Amazing How Long It's Gone On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    2. Re:Amazing How Long It's Gone On by DeadDecoy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While there are many other wtf videos that could be used as prank material, it has what few other videos have: recognition as a prank video. If you were to show some random video, it wouldn't have the same 'gotcha' effect because the audience of the prank might not recognize what you're trying to do in time for the punchline. You could certainly try other videos, but I think you'd be the only one in on the joke.

    3. Re:Amazing How Long It's Gone On by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Plus I've always thought that a much better terrible video is the actual numa numa video.

    4. Re:Amazing How Long It's Gone On by lobiusmoop · · Score: 1
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    5. Re:Amazing How Long It's Gone On by SoTerrified · · Score: 1

      While there are many other wtf videos that could be used as prank material, it has what few other videos have: recognition as a prank video.

      Bingo. If you use this video, the response is... "I've been rickrolled! Ha ha ha, they got me!"
      If you use some other video, the repsonse is "Hmm. This link must be going to the wrong video. This isn't what I expected. Probably a typo in the link. Oh well, let's see what's new on /."

      Well, that's my response anyway.

    6. Re:Amazing How Long It's Gone On by xaxa · · Score: 1

      "This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment. It is no longer available in your country."

      Wow... I didn't realise they were still blocking access to people in the UK.

    7. Re:Amazing How Long It's Gone On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What I find so interesting about this is that, in the world of web sites where a "prank" is usually going to redirect you to some kind of screaming monster or a gaping anus, the rickroll is remarkably unonfensive.

      It's like one day 4chan said "Oh, sure, we can scar you, give you nightmares, make children cry. But our *best* idea is to send you a music video. Because, at heart, we're pretty decent folk."

      You know, as a meta-prank, that's actually pretty scary. Like the Devil doing something nice for you, for reasons you can't understand...

    8. Re:Amazing How Long It's Gone On by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure it would be hard to mistake goatse as anything but an intentional prank.

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    9. Re:Amazing How Long It's Gone On by oldspewey · · Score: 4, Funny

      You've just been RIAA-rolled

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    10. Re:Amazing How Long It's Gone On by dominious · · Score: 1

      where a "prank" is usually going to redirect you to some kind of screaming monster or a gaping anus, the rickroll is remarkably unonfensive.

      what is this "gaping anus" you are talking about?

    11. Re:Amazing How Long It's Gone On by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      Dropping in two of my favorites:

      Paintroll'd

      Nirvana vs. Rick Astley

      Of course, as one of those kids who actually had Mario Paint and messed around with it, I greatly appreciate anything ihasmario does. And its quite creepy how well Smells Like Teen Spirit goes together with the "Never..." lyrics.

  2. It's back up again. by MirthScout · · Score: 1

    And has it back up again before anyone can get the story posted.

  3. Which poses the question: by llvllatrix · · Score: 2, Funny

    How do you Rickroll this video?

    1. Re:Which poses the question: by BlueTrin · · Score: 1

      It is safe to say that most of the people posting here have been rickrolled.

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    2. Re:Which poses the question: by 2obvious4u · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I got RickRolled by NPR this morning.

    3. Re:Which poses the question: by jamesh · · Score: 1

      How do you Rickroll this video?

      By posting a link that actually points to a DNF demo?

  4. You just got Rick Rolled by Youtube... by ground.zero.612 · · Score: 2, Funny

    SUCKERS!

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    1. Re:You just got Rick Rolled by Youtube... by headkase · · Score: 1

      OK, this got modded down to oblivion but think about it: the video is *back up*, millions of slashdotters going there to see the "video is no longer available" message just got rick-rolled. Even if unintentional. This single comment just made my day ;)

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  5. Too much bandwidth?? by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Funny

    That baby must have sicked up terabytes/min at its peak. You can probably trace global warming back to Rick Astley if you try.

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    1. Re:Too much bandwidth?? by Nerdfest · · Score: 3, Funny

      In the future, the "Astley" will become the standard unit for measuring carbon emissions from computing. eg.: I switched to DC power for our servers and saved 47 Astleys annually.

    2. Re:Too much bandwidth?? by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      I already blame Rick Astley for pretty much everything else that's wrong with the world--might as well add that to the list.

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    3. Re:Too much bandwidth?? by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, we know that:

      Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research.

      http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article5489134.ece

      I'd hate to know how much CO2 was used for Rickroll.

    4. Re:Too much bandwidth?? by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      Rick Astley's hair spray probably contributed more to global warming than RickRoll views.

  6. Not really up by marcansoft · · Score: 1

    This video contains content from Vevo, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

    Won't work from here. At least now they're blaming it straight on Vevo, though.

    1. Re:Not really up by marcansoft · · Score: 1

      Nevermind, I confused the Vevo version with the original.

  7. peter waterman complains by circletimessquare · · Score: 1, Insightful

    he only made $16 off the revival

    there's something wrong with this picture

    what is wrong is that ANYONE expects to make money off a 20 year old song

    legally of course, he has grounds to complain. morally and philosophically, the fact that he feels he has any basis to complain is a peek into something very, very wrong with this world

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    1. Re:peter waterman complains by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Revival?

      How many of the viewers actually wanted to watch his video in this "revival"?

      He thinks he should get paid more than 16 bucks because pranksters were _inflicting_ his video on very many unsuspecting people?

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    2. Re:peter waterman complains by CaseM · · Score: 1

      The way copyright laws are set up now we've created a new aristocracy that need not create anything of value, they need only keep licensing the works of their dead spouse/father/mother/whoever in perpetuity. These people are leeches in every sense of the word, taking from society and offering nothing in return. Copyrights should exist only as long as long as the copyright holder lives. No more, no less.

  8. Re:I like him by Justtaint · · Score: 1

    I don't know why people pick on Astley. I think he has a great crooner's voice. Not many singers today have his ability.

    Because when the Devil created Gingers, he only gave the ability to croon to Astley.

  9. Can't wait... by AmigaHeretic · · Score: 1

    ...until this is available in Theora!

  10. The Ultimate Rickroll by srussia · · Score: 1
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  11. 1988 by michaelmalak · · Score: 3, Informative
    A present-day time traveler going back to 1988 might be surprised to read this New York Times article that extols:

    The hottest young English pop star of the moment is Rick Astley, a 21-year-old singer from a suburb of Manchester, whose debut single, ''Never Gonna Give You Up'' (RCA), has sold a million copies in Britain and reached No. 1 ranking in almost every other European country. The song is now rapidly climbing the United States pop charts and is the country's best-selling 12-inch single.

    The record's most striking quality is Mr. Astley's voice - a rich, throbbing baritone that suggests Tom Jones crossed with Luther Vandross. It is definitely not the kind of voice one expects to hear on a contemporary dance record. Since ''Never Gonna Give You Up,'' Mr. Astley has gone on to score two more major English hits, ''Whenever You Need Somebody'' (the title song of his debut album) and a revival of ''When I Fall in Love,'' which re-creates note for note the classic Gordon Jenkins arrangement for Nat (King) Cole's 1957 recording.

    Mr. Astley is the latest discovery of the successful producing and songwriting team of Stock-Aitken-Waterman, which also produces the group Bananarama. The team has popularized a streamlined homogenized pop-disco sound with an unruffled high-gloss surface that stands in marked contrast to the more angular, rhythmically inventive dance-funk of Prince and his disciples.

    ''I'm influenced by a lot of black American artists,'' Mr. Astley said in a recent telephone interview. ''Luther Vandross is one of my favorites, and I like James Ingram and Jeffrey Osborne.''

    At least for now, Mr. Astley is content to have his voice packaged by Stock-Aiken-Waterman.

    ''I like dance music,'' he said. ''I'm happy doing what I'm doing and want to get more deeply into it.''

    Astley's videos were a big thing at the time, coming just two years into MTV's decline that was precipitated by Viacom's purchase of it and MTV still had some of its original appeal of showing a) videos that were b) popular.

    1. Re:1988 by Knara · · Score: 1

      Man, they give short shrift to Stock-Aiken-Waterman. They wrote a ridiculous amount of music for a ridiculous number of people in the 1980's and early 1990's. I suppose that maybe at the time the article was written, the volume of their work wasn't as publicly known.

    2. Re:1988 by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Regardless of what everyone else says about that song, I've always liked it. Not sure how it became synonymous with crappy pop (and there's PLENTY of that to go around). Now, the comparison to Luther Vandross by the NYT? That is downright criminal!

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    3. Re:1988 by Globe199 · · Score: 1

      Agreed. This is a great song. I'm old enough to remember when it was popular on MTV. The title track from this album ("Whenever You Need Somebody") is even better.

      Astley does have a great voice.

    4. Re:1988 by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      The song is fine. There are tons of completely unbearable 80's pop and this one is among the few that stand out today. it's the cheeziness of the video that makes it work. The acrobatic bartender is just so out of place. It doesn't make any sense and is a mismatch to the theme of the song.

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  12. Re:I like him by dosius · · Score: 1

    HEY NOW! I resemble that remark. >:P

    -uso.

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  13. Re:Maybe it is time... by Rei · · Score: 1

    Eh, I still enjoy a good rickroll now and then. For my little sister's birthday, I'm giving her a card that looks perfectly normal and serious from the outside, but when you open it, it plays the first minute of "Never Gonna Give You Up" and has an Astley photo inside.

    It'll also include a gift card, of course; I'm not that mean ;)

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  14. 20+ Year Old Songs Still Make Money by Pollux · · Score: 1

    what is wrong is that ANYONE expects to make money off a 20 year old song

    Bobby Picket, writer and singer of the hit Halloween song "Monster Mash," earned royalties year after year on the song. I couldn't find an article to source from online, but my local paper once had a quick bio on the man. If my recollection serves me correctly, in his later years, he was still collecting about $30,000 per year in royalties.

  15. which is by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

    fucking ridiculous and indefensible

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    1. Re:which is by Knara · · Score: 1

      Yeah, copyright enabling people to control their works and creators getting paid for other folks utilizing their works is just a crime against God and man.

    2. Re:which is by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

      When the copyright can often extend significantly after the original artist's death? Yeah, I consider that a problem. Copyright is meant to spur creative development. What is more likely to do that? Giving an artist an avenue where they can produce one popular work and rest on their laurels as long as they want, or forcing them (via copyright expiration) to put in more work and actually create more art? I guess that I just don't believe in someone receiving payment for work that they don't do.

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    3. Re:which is by Knara · · Score: 1

      Yes, this is the common perception.

      The reality is that copyright more often is used by the little guy against big/medium guys. Just yesterday there was a Twitter storm about how Hot Topic had items that were clearly ripped off by one of their artists from an identifiable indie source. Within 1 day, Hot Topic had pulled the item from their online stores and were starting the process to pull it from their retail stores.

      The reason why? Copyright.

      You and those like you can go on and on about life+70 years and what not, but clearly you don't create anything, because then you'd know that actual creative people have an urge to create, not to create and then "rest on their laurels". It's an extremely rare person who does that on their first try, at that. Copyright is there so that someone else doesn't get to take the easy way around and just swipe someone else's stuff.

      I'm sorry that copyright prevents you from getting free stuff.

  16. Re: Rickroll by Rickshaw by AshboryBass · · Score: 1
    I enjoyed Rickrolling the Boise Tour de Fat cycling event in 2008:

    Great event every year, and great fun.

  17. who built your house? by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    i'll be sure to contact him, so he can collect from you everytime you open your door or flush your toilet

    does that sound ridiculous? intellectual property subscribes to special rules that don't apply to real world goods?

    ok, then i'll find the architect who designed your house

    oh, yu say he was adequately reimbursed so he has no right to claim anymore?

    ok, well the guy wrote "monster mash" was well reimbursed for performing his song decades ago

    right?

    if the architect has no right to claim you owe him every time you open a window, on what basis does the guy who wrote "monster mash" expect you to pay him money when you play the song DECADES later?

    "Yeah, copyright enabling people to control their works and creators getting paid for other folks utilizing their works is just a crime against God and man"

    you say that with sarcasm

    i say the exact same thing, in complete seriousness

    you honestly want to defend a system that says the grandchildren of the guy who wrote sherlock holmes stories or the song "happy birthday" deserve money for that. you honestly want to defend that notion?

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    1. Re:who built your house? by Knara · · Score: 1

      The builder doesn't have copyright on my domicile. That, in itself, eliminates any relevance your reply may have had.

      If you have a problem with the existence of copyright, all you need to do is get the US Constitution and ~300 years of western legal tradition changed. Should be a piece of cake.

    2. Re:who built your house? by schon · · Score: 1

      The builder doesn't have copyright on my domicile.

      That's exactly the point. WHY doesn't he have copyright on your domicile?

      That, in itself, eliminates any relevance your reply may have had.

      Wow - are you really that stupid?

      If builders suddenly started clamouring for a copyright on housing, would you be as supportive of them as you are for songwriters? If not, then you're a hypocrite.

      A homebuilder has just as much right to 70+ years of royalties on houses they build as a songwriter has to 70+ years of royalties on songs they write.

    3. Re:who built your house? by Knara · · Score: 1

      Just because you don't understand what can and cannot be copyrighted, doesn't mean those concerns are arbitrary.

      Learn about copyright. Learn about licensing. Things will be a lot more clear to you when you do.

    4. Re:who built your house? by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      "ok, then i'll find the architect who designed your house"

      Actually if you buy a spec home from a builder they do have copyright on the plans. If you pay an architect to draw up your ideas as a plan then you hold the copyright. In the first case the builder uses the copyright to stop you from taking the plan to a competitor who can build it cheaper because he doesn't employ architects. In the second case nobody cares, you are free to choose your prefered builder.

      I don't like the current state of affairs, but in what fantasy land do you expect investors to sink $100M into a movie and then give it away? Childish arguments like the one in your sig do nothing but provide the MAFIAA with the ammunition to make even more draconian laws.

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  18. not a problem by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    its called technological progress. the gun did away with centuries of feudal caste systems, the nuclear bomb stopped the cold war from becoming a hot war, the printing press enabled the enlightenment and the middle class, which destroyed the political powers of religions, etc

    and now, the internet has destroyed the copyright clause and 300 years of western legal tradition. its just that some fools like you don't see it yet

    laws created when publishers were a small gentleman's club cannot be realistically enforced on hundreds of millions of poor, media hungry and technologically astute teenagers worldwide who have more distributor power each individually than bertelsmann plus sony plus warner brothers plus the rest did in 1985

    wake up, fool

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    1. Re:not a problem by Knara · · Score: 2, Informative

      its called technological progress. the gun did away with centuries of feudal caste systems, the nuclear bomb stopped the cold war from becoming a hot war, the printing press enabled the enlightenment and the middle class, which destroyed the political powers of religions, etc

      Your Cliff's Notes version of history is cute, but not entirely accurate. I'd like you to point out how religion and religious organizations no longer have any political power, for example.

      and now, the internet has destroyed the copyright clause and 300 years of western legal tradition. its just that some fools like you don't see it yet

      Yup, done away with. That's why you can still be sued for copyright infringement and lose. Obviously, the entire concept is ancient history.

      laws created when publishers were a small gentleman's club cannot be realistically enforced on hundreds of millions of poor, media hungry and technologically astute teenagers worldwide who have more distributor power each individually than bertelsmann plus sony plus warner brothers plus the rest did in 1985

      wake up, fool

      You obviously don't understand the progress of copyright law in the western world since the Statue of Anne. Do some research, learn a little bit. Then come back and we can talk. And when you do, try to foam at the mouth a little less. It's hard on the carpet.

  19. lol: class action lawsuit by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

    peter waterman owes us all for writing a song which has been uninvitedly inflicted on each of us and destroyed each of our personal well being

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  20. Re:I like him by schon · · Score: 1

    I don't know why people pick on Astley.

    Because he doesn't really exist! Seriously, he's Kylie Minogue in reverse-drag. You think it's a co-incidence that they both have the same record label and producers?

    Try this: grab *any* Kylie Minogue song. Slow it down by 40%. Listen to the voice.

    (And if you think I'm trying to be funny here - I'm dead serious: try it. They're the same person.)

  21. Re:I like him by Rei · · Score: 1

    Oh my god, you're right! Think about it: when was the last time you saw Kylie Minogue and Rick Astley in the same place at the same time???

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  22. yes, they can sue by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

    and bankrupt the occasional soccer mom for what her kid's friends do on her computer or the occasional grandma with an unsecured wireless router

    and in what way does that stop pirate bay? in what way does that stop that kid in johannesburg from providing free movies to that kid in novosibirsk or omaha, or anywhere else?

    simple, obvious truth: when copyright law governed the expensive, weighty slow effort of setting up vhs duplicators or cd presses, and then salespeople on street corners, copyright law was effective, because pirates were slow and weighted down with costs and easily trappable and punishable

    but now its every teenager with a modem who can point and click

    and, perhaps most importantly, seamlessly over national borders. go ahead, pass the most stringent privacy raping, freedom of expression destroying, internet slowing legislation you can buy from your congress whores. and then what? that kid in philadephia is getting an encrypted, obfuscated, steganographed, sparsely delivered movie and music and bookf ile from another kid in sao paulo. how does your law apply in brazil? it doesn't. game over

    so you tell me how copyright law is enforceable in this environment, i'm all ears

    or maybe you should accept the death of copyright law: its simply unenforceable

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    1. Re:yes, they can sue by Knara · · Score: 1

      Your mistake is generalizing teenage bittorrent addicts to the rest of the population of the world.

    2. Re:yes, they can sue by Dputiger · · Score: 1

      I dunno. I'm amused by the concept of thieves as "slow, weighted down." I'm imagining a hunting spree in Times Square, while these more agile, feathered dinosaurs pirates laugh on by.

  23. I dont get this rickroll thing by unity100 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    maybe because i was a teenager when this song came out, and the song was a chart topper. maybe it was compliant with music tastes of that time. i cant just understand what is so hilarious or odd about this video, and what the point of 'rickrolling' is.

  24. where is LOGIC in your argument ? by unity100 · · Score: 1

    so, the architect does not own copyright on your house.

    WHAT IF HE DID ?

    whats there from preventing copyright/intellectual property application to ANY idea or concept or creation ?

    NOTHING. if enough private interest parties lobby enough, laws will be amended to make them applicable. you have been thinking that it was normal not to have copyrights on house designs or other creations because they were JUST NOT BEING APPLIED, whereas they can.

    so, will it be something logical, something defensible, something rational to have such laws then ?

    very probably you will find this rather hard to stomach - architects having ongoing royalties on your house every year you use it. and this being incorporated in law.

    and it is. you are just incapable from comprehending you are accepting copyrights on 'creative' works, music, software and so on, because those have been enforced laws up to this point. had they not been in existence, you would find proposition of them being applied equally ridiculous.

    so then, wake up to the fact. something being put into law does NOT mean that it is logical, civil, modern, and even acceptable. copyrights, patents are such stuff. once you start to hand out 'ownership' of ideas and concepts, the world goes upside down.

    1. Re:where is LOGIC in your argument ? by Knara · · Score: 1

      The architect can copyright the design, which can be licensed by the builders.

      They don't have copyright on my particular house.

      Please learn the difference, then come back.

    2. Re:where is LOGIC in your argument ? by jonadab · · Score: 1

      If the architect who designed your house had copyright rights on it, I guess you'd have to pay him royalties if you ever built another house based on the same design.

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    3. Re:where is LOGIC in your argument ? by unity100 · · Score: 1

      these are your promises. what you have to do will be defined by law in the end. just remember how some software companies are trying to push pay for use licenses, and trying to find ways to force previously paid customers to those licenses.

  25. Re:Maybe it is time... by Colz+Grigor · · Score: 2, Funny

    An iTunes Gift Card that will only download "Never Gonna Give You Up"?

  26. So does it mean that Slashdot is rickrolled? by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

    Or rickroll is slashdotted?

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  27. still failing to get it by unity100 · · Score: 1

    design, license, copyright, patent, its not about 'learning' its about thinking. you are telling me to 'learn' the difference in between copyright and design, however you are incapable of understanding that all these concepts are created by litigation, and can be changed, amended, transformed, and new ones added.

    these are all abstract concepts.

    the only thing that creates and enforces them, and decides what to enforce and what not, and what is enforceable and valid for what and what is not is the law. and law, can be made.

    if legislation is passed to allow renewable licenses for architectural designs, it will become applicable.

    if someone successfully litigates to the end that because the law was just passed recently, s/he/they are being slighted and their 'work' uncompensated in comparison to recent contracts, the previously made and 'sold' architectural designs can also be subject of reparations.

    if they successfully litigate, they may ask you to remove/demolish certain parts or all of your house, because your house 'infringes' on one of their later designs, newly copyrighted/patented.

    given the shittiness and stupidity of american system, and the track record of patents they have awarded in patent office, in such a situation simple concepts like 'arcs' and 'roofs' can even be patented and litigated.

    1. Re:still failing to get it by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      Dude, there is nothing simple about arches and roof's please take a look at the history of acrhitecuture. You have some valid points in your rants about copyright and patents but they are totally obscured by your zealotry.

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    2. Re:still failing to get it by unity100 · · Score: 1

      the concept of arch, and roof is simple. extremely complicated and unique arches, roofs being possible to create does not change that fact. the concept of a roof, concept of an arc, stays the same, and their purpose too. therefore, they can be patented. just like single click.

    3. Re:still failing to get it by unity100 · · Score: 1

      that was what i was saying, and the point was that. if you let this concept be, it goes all the way till claiming ownership of entire base concepts and principles in the end. for, there is nothing separating derived concepts and base concepts, the former are only versions and results of the latter, and in most cases more complex meshs of many of the latter. technically they are the same.

    4. Re:still failing to get it by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      "technically they are the same."

      No, technically they are different otherwise they wouldn't be a derivation they would be a copy. Sure, at a high enough level of abstraction an ICBM and a spear may be considered the same idea but I've yet to see a javelin thrower launch a spear into LEO.

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  28. Mod parent up by Kinky+Bass+Junk · · Score: 1

    Where are all my mod points? :(

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  29. Honestly, it wasn't the song by Azureflare · · Score: 1

    It was that feeling when you heard the percussive intro. You were like "WTF that is not what I was expecting!!!!!! ... WAT! Why are they dancing, are they laughing at me???"

    The intro to the song made it the best Roll'd video ever. I think it's going to be hard to find one so embarrassing.

    The funny thing is, once you hear Rick Astley singing you realize he is actually a really good vocalist.

  30. maaaan. you are a hardcore conservative. by unity100 · · Score: 1

    ill get to the point straight.

    ABSTRACT concepts can be REDEFINED.

    meaning, 'derive', 'derivation', 'copy', 'intellectual property', ALL of these concepts can be modified and amended. there are no hard coded, unchangeable versions of these. these are not natural concepts. these cant be quantified. these cant be sampled from nature.

    therefore ALL can be changed. if you want to see this in action, just check your country's laws on various matters. any law starts with definitions of terms and concepts it covers. you will see that throughout law's history, many of those concepts had been modified, and amended as to their definitions.

    copy is copy in TODAY's sense and understanding, which was defined some way back. derivation is the same. if someone redefines them in laws and this gets hold, their meaning and application will also change.

  31. REVERSE RACISM by spazdor · · Score: 1

    Actually, when a woman dresses as a man, that's just drag.

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    DRM: Terminator crops for your mind!
  32. The Shakespeare estate by tepples · · Score: 1

    How long should the Shakespeare estate have continued to receive royalties for Romeo and Juliet?