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Leak Shows US Lead Opponent of ACTA Transparency

An anonymous reader writes "Throughout the debate over ACTA transparency, the secret copyright treaty, many countries have taken public positions that they support release of the actual text, but that other countries do not. Since full transparency requires consensus of all the ACTA partners, the text simply can't be released until everyone is in agreement. A new leak from the Netherlands fingers who the chief opponents of transparency are: the United States, South Korea, Singapore, and Denmark lead the way, with Belgium, Germany, and Portugal not far behind as problem countries."

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  1. I must say by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am shocked. Just shocked.

  2. Copyright expansionism is bipartisan by tepples · · Score: 4, Informative

    right now the score there is 59-41 giving the Republicans only the power to filibuster and not pass anything without the help of at least nine Democrats.

    President Clinton, a Democrat, signed the Bono Act and the DMCA in October 1998. He didn't send it back to both houses for a roll-call vote (which requires 67% assent); instead, he let the voice votes in both houses (which require 81% assent) stand.

  3. Re:apt quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "American Idol is on tonight, oh goodie" - Typical American

  4. Re:Just who did we elect to do this? by DrJimbo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who's representing the US in the ACTA negotiations. If it's just the usual **AA people, then good luck getting this past The Senate.

    Uh, the **AA people own the Senate. They have also infiltrated the Department of Justice. And now that the Supreme Court has ruled it is unconstitutional to limit corporate campaign funding (via advertisements) expect corporate ownership of all branches of government to increase.

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  5. Germany by Estragib · · Score: 4, Informative

    As a resident of one of the mentioned problem countries, I think it might be helpful to point towards an organization to rally behind to oppose the secrecy:

    ACTA workgroup of the Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure e.V.

  6. Re:We will have discussions about this on CSPAN2! by dr2chase · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The D's are not reliable opponents of **AA craziness.

  7. Re:How do we folllow the law? by Conchobair · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not a law yet. They are trying to keep things quiet so that there is not enough time to mount large scale opposistion to the proposal. This will allow them to pass it before most people are aware of the implications. Once its a law it will be a lot harder to repeal or change what they decided in these secret meetings.

  8. Re:apt quote by dch24 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    "Don't bother to actually read what Michael Geist wrote, just post inflammatory headline" - Typical Slashdot Editor.

    I know, I must be new here... Here's an important block of text. Read this:

    Outside of the Europe, the memo identifies three problem countries. While Japan is apparently supportive, both South Korea and Singapore oppose ACTA transparency. Moreover, the U.S. has remained silent on the issue, as it remains unconvinced of the need for full disclosure. In doing so, it would appear that the U.S. is perhaps the biggest problem since a clear position of support might be enough to persuade the remaining outliers.

    The U.S. Representatives may be against transparency, but they aren't stupid enough to say so.

    Now, their South Korean and Singaporean cronies on the other hand, are stupid enough, and they are opposed to transparency -- because they lose so much money to counterfeiting!</sarcasm>

  9. Re:Just who did we elect to do this? by zach_the_lizard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who's representing the US in the ACTA negotiations. If it's just the usual **AA people, then good luck getting this past The Senate.

    The DMCA made it past the Senate, as did the PATRIOT act, the war on (some) drugs, Prohibition, and I believe the Corwin Amendment. I feel your faith in the Senate is misplaced. You see, to have real influence in the Senate, you must either be someone with enough cash to make a difference in an election, such as a CEO, or you must be someone who represents a collection of people that have that power, such as union bosses.

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  10. Re:Just who did we elect to do this? by zach_the_lizard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They didn't undo half of the things that the Dems have done for years that they have opposed from time to time (such as their opposition to the New Deal in the 30s), and the Dems have also done little in the way of repealing themselves. I am awaiting the death of the PATRIOT act, for example, and the closure of Guantanamo Bay's prison. So why do you think they would repeal it now?

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  11. Re:apt quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a current US Army reserve soldier let me tell you:

    An American Revolution is most definitely possible in modern society for two reasons:

    The US Army is not supposed to put down armed uprisings unless it is on a massive scale, you only have to fight the police at first.

    By the time it gets big enough they start calling up the Nat'l guard and what have you, you'll have as many soldiers defecting to revolt.

    It's even more possible now with a lot of our top end equipment and soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan.

    As for the technological gap between the Army and the civilian population, well the Iraqis don't have drone fighters and are still doing a decent job of killing soldiers.

  12. Re:Poorly written summary by FriendlyLurker · · Score: 5, Informative
    it is not fair to lump the U.S. in with countries who are actively opposing transparency.. YES it is fair, and it IS justified :

    IDG covers the latest Dutch leak that reveals the transparency position of many ACTA participants. Particularly telling is the view that both France and Italy favour greater transparency, but fear U.S. retaliation.

  13. Re:apt quote by FriendlyLurker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's an important block of text... Moreover, the U.S. has remained silent on the issue.

    This is a more telling block of text :

    IDG covers the latest Dutch leak that reveals the transparency position of many ACTA participants. Particularly telling is the view that both France and Italy favour greater transparency, but fear U.S. retaliation.

  14. Since when does transparency... by macraig · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... , to the very people who elected them, require consensus? Shouldn't it be opacity that requires unanimous consensus?

    Seriously, people, how much more clue do you need that "reform" isn't going to cut it? Only another "R" word is going to put an end to this. If you're not firing up the furnace and making ready to beat your plowshares into swords, you're not doing enough.

  15. Transparency by Nidi62 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know, I seem to recall hearing that word a lot the past 2 years, but now? Eh, not so much.

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  16. Re:How do we folllow the law? by Spad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not a law, it's a treaty. Treaties are much better than laws on their own because while laws can easily be opposed by the public before being passed, treaties can be passed in secret and then used as a basis for forcing laws through on the grounds that they are a requirement of the treaty.

  17. you mean "retard"? by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    because if you don't understand how much worse an actual revolution is compared to the issues here, that's what you are

    when peoples bellies are empty, then you get revolution. if they can't download cartoon network for free, not so much

    and i say this as someone who has said in many comments on this site that intellectual property is morally and philosophically bankrupt. but i still know the entire debate over intellectual property nowhere rises to the level of revolution, not even remotely. if you think it does, you are extremely, extremely out of touch with what is really important in this world

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  18. Re:Just who did we elect to do this? by SteveFoerster · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Democrat-controlled Senate just reapproved key provisions of the Patriot Act that would otherwise have expired. If you wanted any indicator that they're worse than useless, that was it.

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  19. Re:apt quote by KeensMustard · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No one because all you armchair freedom fighters are too much of pussies to actually do anything besides posturing on the internet.

    The reason for the widespread compliance within the population is not because they are all wimps. Revolution is like amputation. You only amputate your leg if you really have to. If wounded in the leg, and given the choice to do nothing, or amputate it, most people will adopt a wait and see approach - it's not that bad just yet.

    Whereas real healing lies in the utilisation of other, finer instruments - the scalpel, the antibiotic, the anaesthetic. In the context of government it is by wielding the fine instrument that you overpower the powerful in their entrenched power bases. These fine instruments are things like:

    1. Witholding your capital from corporations who act counter to the interests of the community
    2. Witholding your labour from corporations who act counter to the interests of the community
    3. Raising awareness of the issue in the community
    4. Lobbying those who can be influenced
    5. Replacing those who can't with someone else.

    These are a hard slog. And lot's of people like to complain, but are too lazy to do their duty, to step up to the table and fix what is wrong. So the solution is to call for revolution. Blowing the dog whistle of revolution justifies doing nothing - after all, they did their civic duty by blowing the whistle, who would ask more of them? The revolutionary whistle is like a relief valve - there's a problem, hearts and minds are stirred - pressure builds up - someone calls for revolution - no we can't do that, it's not justified - the relief valve opens and the pressure is gone. People go home to bed, and in the morning, pay their due to their masters.

    Ironically, the US love of guns and the kneejerk tendency to suggest violence as the solution to issues of governance means that of all the democracies in the world, the US population is amongst the most compliant of all populations toward their government.