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BlackBerry Bold Tops Radiation Ranking
geek4 writes with this excerpt from eWeek Europe: "Data from the Environmental Working Group places the BlackBerry Bold 9700 as the mobile device with the highest legal levels of cell phone radiation among popular smartphones. Research In Motion's BlackBerry Bold 9700 scores the highest among popular smartphones for exposing users to the highest legal levels of cell phone radiation, according to the latest 2010 Environmental Working Group ranking. Following the Bold 9700 are the Motorola Droid, the LG Chocolate and Google's HTC Nexus One. The rankings still put the phones well within federal guidelines and rules."
Perhaps this means it'll get signal where I live?
The rankings still put the phones well within federal guidelines and rules.
Wait... so I guess that makes this a complete non-story?
Or maybe we should have an enthralling debate about how these devices are within legal spec.
Or perhaps it's flamebait: We're supposed to bring out the apple fanboys and where the iphone ranks.
Current FCC regulations permit SAR levels of up to 1.6 W/kg for partial body (head) exposure, 0.08 W/kg for whole-body exposure and 4 W/kg for exposure to the hands, wrists, feet and ankles.
The BlackBerry Bold 9700 scores an overall 1.55 SAR in the new rankings. The Motorola Droid came in at 1.50 while the LG Chocolate scored a 1.46, the Nexus One ranked a 1.39 and the Apple iPhone 3G scored a 1.19.
Ok, I read some of the article. I guess we can talk about how close the Blackberry is to the upper bound. It still seems like a boring, non-story.
You poor fanboys, your precious toy didn't even make the list. Weak is the signal, weak as the user.
Why do you hate Americium?
You're just a Motorola Droid.
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It's flamebait for the "cell phones cause cancer" crowd: the word "radiation" is a dead giveaway.
-kgj
Someone compiled a list, then sorted it numerically by some quantifiable characteristic.
Something came in at #1. what a surprise. this doesn't mean #1 is that that good or great or bad or harmful, as noted in the summary itself
"The rankings still put the phones well within federal guidelines and rules."
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Then why is it a story?
http://www.ewg.org/cellphone-radiation -- This is the actual report site. Have a look through.
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I hope this doesn't turn into a boron and predictable thread of chemistry puns.
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Folks please don't get wound up about 'radiation' from a wireless device, remember that it is only 'heating' radiation, not ionizing radiation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-ionizing_radiation. All it is going to do is warm your skin near where the phone is, or very slow cook for you microwave oven enthusiasts... Ionizing radiation like gamma rays are quite another story and will cause DNA damage, but are a wholly different type of 'radiation'. You will get more damage from standing out in the sun every day then you will from the weak signal that is emitted from your mobile. Now the fact that most mobile phones these days do not have a very efficient antenna is quite the reason that so many of them have such bad SAR values, if people could just stand having a little 'duckie' antenna sticking out of the top of the phone then we would have more efficient emission of the signal and a better SAR value. But that is not sexy and so we won't see any more antenna's like we did when cellphones first came out and so instead the phone body itself is the antenna and a good portion of the emitted signal is absorbed by the hand and head, its just the way it works... The best thing is to educate yourself and make your own decisions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health
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I hope this doesn't turn into a boron and predictable thread of chemistry puns.
A post like that is like a big Neon sign just asking for it to happen though.
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Did you just say that the main reason your water gets hot in the microwave is because it's going around in a circle and not the...ummm.. microwaves? Cause I'm thinking I could lower my energy bill if you're not a complete crackpot. /sarcasm
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I hope this doesn't turn into a boron and predictable thread of chemistry puns.
A post like that is like a big Neon sign just asking for it to happen though.
I zinc you guys must beryllium, like, so bored this evening.
Manganese puns get any lamer?
Pretending this is my office full of bitter coworkers..
In PA (USA) the legal limit for driving while intoxicated was 1.0. Now it's 0.8. Legal limits change when new facts are discovered. Do you remember asbestos? Lead paint? What about cigarettes? Oh, wait, cigarettes are still legal, even though their deadly effects are well documented.
Note: I do not believe that cell phones cause cancer, but just because something is legal doesn't mean it's safe.
Stupid people? The same people that think microwaves are a mutagen?
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Oh, the irony of it.
The 1100 watts of microwaves from your microwave are of the riht band(s) to act on the water molecules in your body. Your cell phone and other wireless devices do not use these bands. The vast majority of the EM that is emitted by these devices goes right through you without doing anything. Now I should also add that the perforated sheet of metal that lets you see through the glass also reflects the EM from the microwave and thus very little EM actually escapes because it is a faraday cage. You can stand in front of one all day long compltely uninjured. X-ray machines O.T.O.H. are shielded (for the operators) by a significant quantity of Lead. Further, microwave EM is not radiologically equivalent to X-rays as microwave EM is not ionizing. X-rays are. Big difference.
Sigs are too short to say anything truly profound so read the above post instead.
The apparent contradiction in your statement presents an interesting antimony. Personally I think all the good puns argon, but I've lead the way before, and I will again, although I'm not nearly as good at this as my friend Nick. When he gets going nickel bark them out like he was Rin-Tin-Tin. I do feel like I have one on the tip of my tungsten... Copernicium.
Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure everything I just said is completely wrong.
Oh boy.
I can't count the number of times I've run across this particular piece of rationalization. Probably because, on the surface, it makes an emotional kind of sense.
Yes, non-ionizing radiation doesn't burn anything. But that's not the problem. Nobody is claiming it IS the problem. The only people who are convinced that anybody is claiming this as the problem simply aren't paying attention. Sorry. I don't mean to come down hard on you, but the EM spectrum is useful in electronics because it vibrates, not because it burns things. Cells, when vibrated on the EM spectrum, react. It's that simple. There is a ton of information available to anybody who wants to know what is really going on here.
Basically, it comes down to this:
Cells respond, evidently by their very nature, to coherent electromagnetic signals in the 1 to 500Hz range. They do all kinds of weird things depending on the pulse rate and power and how the Earth's magnetic field interacts with the signal. Cells have been observed to reproduce many times faster or slower than normal when exposed to different radio frequencies. -Or to open up their membrane walls allowing foreign particles to enter which would not normally be able to pass. Very low power signals can do this and a great deal more.
There are a number of observed mechanics, one of which is called, "Cyclotronic Resonance". Here's an example. . .
As I am sure you know, everything has a natural sympathetic frequency. This is understood. Cyclotronic Resonance is a type of resonance which occurs when both a radio frequency and a steady magnetic field are present. For instance, when you produce a 60Hz frequency, (as in wall-socket current), and combine it with a steady magnetic field of 0.2 Gauss, (as supplied by the Earth's magnetic field), the Lithium Ion resonates and becomes excited. It also moves on a spiral vector. The result is that any trace quantities of Lithium which happen to be in the blood stream of an organism will cease to sit still and will instead energize and move, enabling them to penetrate the blood brain barrier with greater frequency than normal. It was noted that rats exposed to these conditions exhibited behavior consistent with a medicinal dose of lithium drug as compared to the control rats. It should be noted that Lithium is the active ingredient in many anti-depressants.
That's just one small example. There are many others. But you're NOT going to read about them in the main stream press. You just won't. I'd explain why but that's a whole other post. (Typically, people who believe in the whole idea that "non-ionizing" means "Safe" also tend to have trouble believing that the media can be anything less than honest. Or that corruption exists. Or that any group might have a vested interest in mass-medicating a population. Just as one example.)
But there is some excellent information out there. -A good book on this is, "Cross Currents" by Robert O. Becker.
Scary?
Of course it is.
Good luck.
-FL
Oh, this kind of thread comes up periodically, compounding the pun-ishment, as though it were an elemental aspect of /.
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