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Why PyCon 2010's Conference Wi-Fi Didn't Melt Down

jafo writes "There's been a lot of teeth gnashing going on recently about broken wireless at conferences. We just wrapped up PyCon 2010, with around 600 (out of 1,000) attendees simultaneously accessing the volunteer-run network, and response has been fairly positive. 2.4GHz (802.11b/g) continues to be problematic, but most users were on 5.2GHz (using 802.11n) and associating at 130mbps, with a 100mbps link to the net (though after the fact we found that 35mbps would have sufficed). My PyCon 2010 wrap-up reveals all the secrets of how we did it, including pretty bandwidth and user graphs."

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  1. Re:On units and their prefixes by Jurily · · Score: 4, Funny

    (Also, how do I write non-ASCII characters here?)

    What makes you think you can, huh? Just because url's can contain them and the civilized portion of the net is already fine with them?

  2. I avoid conference WiFi's... by SerpentMage · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Because of the notorious slow conference WiFi's I have learned a new trick...

    I use 3G networks. Since I live in Europe it would be expensive except I get pay-per-day for the country and that averages around 4 to 5 USD per day. That is great considering I can get 3G within restaurants, in my hotel room, and where ever else... Beats having to figure things out with the Wifi...

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  3. More such reports, please! by Enleth · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Even though it's just a short report, it's going to be very valuable for anyone doing similar work, be it for a conference or for a more permanent setup. No textbook is going to protect against those "oh crap, why didn't I think of it before?" moments like some actual experience would, and this posting is the next best thing after actually having someone with experience on site. And this works for any field of applied technology, not just wireless networking.

    So, thanks and be back with some more soon!

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  4. IETF meetings solved this 2 years ago by mbone · · Score: 4, Informative

    IETF meetings are larger (1200+ typically), and basically everyone has an uses a laptop / pda, so they make for a demanding wireless environment. After some really bad experiences, resources were put into this, and the last few years, things have really improved.

    What we have found is that

    - it is necessary to have good gear (not all access points are created equal)
    - To serve a lot of people, lower the power per access point, and put in a lot of them. Raising the power because of poor reception is a mistake.
    - having both 2 GHz and 5 GHz networks really helps.
    - telling attendees how to turn off "ad hoc" mode on their computers really helps.
    - tracking down ill-configured boxes doing bad things on the network really helps.

    Having said that, most recent IETF meeting sponsors have chosen to pay for professional wireless network providers. This is not trivial, and there is no better way to cause a flame war than to have the WLAN melt down.

  5. Re:Nothing to see here, move along by Incongruity · · Score: 5, Informative

    Of course, the top answer to the question you link to comes from Sean (Jafo), the same person who authored the story submitted here. Sean's been nothing short of a hero @ PyCon for a number of years now – the one or two times we tried to replace him with a sub-contracted internet solution, it always ended painfully... or, well, more rightly, with Sean coming in and saving the day.

    So, as someone who has worked with Sean on making PyCon happen, I can say, without a doubt, that he really knows how to get it done. My hat's off to him and Tummy.com

  6. Re:On units and their prefixes by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just FYI, the "job" of a Slashdot "editor" involves scoring Rob Malda some weed when you were at community college together, writing a very small shell script to post every 25th story submission, then scarfing beer and cheetos while playing in the Furry zone of Second Life for the rest of your "career".

    Mod hints: -1 Troll, +1 Informative, +1 Insightful

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  7. Re:On units and their prefixes by TeknoHog · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What's wrong with "bps" instead of "b/s"?

    "Per" is a word that does not work in all languages, whereas "/" is a universal mathematical symbol. Even non-scientists use units like km/h, at least in Europe.

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  8. Re:Nothing to see here, move along by AMK · · Score: 4, Informative

    For the first year or two, Sean was an unpaid volunteer, and the wireless was an all-volunteer effort. We felt bad about using up all his conference time, so we hired a company to run the network -- they're professionals, so everything should work fine, right? -- and Sean ended up helping them diagnose problems, using up *even more* of his conference time. Now we just pay Sean.