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Brinksmanship Continues In Google-China Row Over Censorship

According to The Financial Times, "Google has drawn up detailed plans for the closure of its Chinese search engine and is now '99.9 per cent' certain to go ahead [with the closure] as talks over censorship with the Chinese authorities have reached an apparent impasse, according to a person familiar with the company’s thinking. In a hardening of positions on both sides, the Chinese government also on Friday threw down a direct public challenge to the US search company, with a warning that it was not prepared to compromise on internet censorship to stop Google leaving." "99.9 per cent" or not, both sides say they'd actually like Google to remain in China, but neither is willing to bend publicly on the question of censorship. If Google closes google.cn, as now seems likely, it could still maintain its R&D office in Beijing and its sales force, who sell ads on google.com targeted into China.

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  1. Re:Well, that's good to hear by davester666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft will move aggressively to fill the void, promising to proactively censor results AND to report people entering 'improper' terms into Bing.

    They will do anything to get another fraction of a percentage point for market share.

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  2. Re:Google is the only one that stands to lose... by Jenming · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think its Google's intention to hurt China. To me it just seems they don't want to do business in a country that pushes them around.

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  3. Re:What changed? by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a bit of a cynic, but it seems to me that Google wanted to leave China after they were hacked, and made an unreasonable (in context) offer to China in order to make the Chinese look like the "bad guys" and Google look like the "good guys."

    Getting hacked by state-sponsored hackers seems like enough of a reason all on its own, no need to make up another one.

    Seems more like an attempt to use the hacking as leverage to reduce censorship requirements as in "you hacked us, we're leaving unless you cut restrictions on our business."

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  4. Re:Well, that's good to hear by Redlazer · · Score: 5, Insightful
    But that's the best part of Google leaving.

    Anything that rusts the machinery of their fucked government is better. Scientists losing access to important/useful data? This is good news, as it will slow them down. Hopefully, it will be one of many things that will affect change in the country. The first domino, or perhaps, just the middle domino?

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  5. Re:Well, that's good to hear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, Google has a more honest privacy policy. Didn't you read that story about how much information Microsoft has and their policies for turning it over? It was on Wikileaks a while back, I think. That's the problem with people like you. Can't handle honesty, so you punish the guys who are honest and go with the shady guys because they know how to manipulate you into thinking they're trustworthy (even though they're doing everything the other guys are doing and more, just out of the public eye).

    Oh, and it's Chinese law to censor search results. There are *NO* search engines operating in China that don't censor. Bing operates in China, so they censor. They just keep quiet about it, though, and that causes the uninformed to conclude that they're more trustworthy.