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Former Astronauts Call Obama NASA Plans "Catastrophic"

krou writes "Talking to the BBC at a private function held at the Royal Society in London, former astronauts Jim Lovell and Eugene Cernan both spoke out about Obama's decision to postpone further moon missions. Lovell claimed that 'it will have catastrophic consequences in our ability to explore space and the spin-offs we get from space technology,' while Cernan noted he was 'disappointed' to have been the last person to land on the moon. Said Cernan: 'I think America has a responsibility to maintain its leadership in technology and its moral leadership ... to seek knowledge. Curiosity's the essence of human existence.' Neil Armstrong, who was also at the event, avoided commenting on the subject."

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  1. Re:Priorities. by Boronx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since insuring everyone can actually save money, we can do both.

  2. Re:Priorities. by Cheerio+Boy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd rather have health care than a trip to the moon for 4 people. Maybe if we hadn't squandered a trillion dollars on the unnecessary war in Iraq we could afford things like going to the moon again.

    This.

    A big portion of our bleeding economy is flowing out the giant bullet hole labeled "War against terror." and if we just stopped a _single_ _war_ that we're involved with we'd have a ton of money to put towards all sorts of stuff.

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  3. Re:Priorities. by dfetter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's not just the "War on Terror." It's all the wars. We face no external threats, militarily speaking. It's time for us to discard our empire.

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  4. Different research by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bringing men to the moon currently wouldn't add anything of value. It was possible in the '60s, doing it now would not bring any advancement. Space money is better spent on research for new propulsion systems and ways to get off the Earth. When that is done, THEN go to the moon.

  5. Re:Our budget deficits are catastrophic, too by compro01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cutting NASA with respect to the deficit is like putting a bandaid on your finger while ignoring the sucking wound in your chest.

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  6. Re:Priorities. by kurokame · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Access to health care is still a big problem in the USA. But huge swaths of modern medicine are the result of human space travel. It's hard to find anything today that isn't in some way reliant on space-related research.

    Further Research.

    I'm not saying that postponing a manned return to the Moon is catastrophic by itself - but we depend on space travel for so much today that scaling back our efforts there amounts to saving pennies today (NASA's budget is a tiny drop in the federal budget!) by throwing away potentially massive results tomorrow. And this is aside from how important exploration is in purely human terms.

  7. What "empire" by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We face no external threats, militarily speaking. It's time for us to discard our empire.

    And what "empire" is that exactly? Do you demand we let go of Puerto Rico?

    Other than that we have a number of military actions in areas where we are supporting democratic governments - Iraq and Iran - that are not in any way part of a U.S. "empire" (for better or worse).

    As for the lack of military threats, I suggest to tell that to the people attacking our military and citizens. Perhaps they will stop once they realize they do not exist.

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    1. Re:What "empire" by dbIII · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We are a collection of fairly divided states and territories. Really, none of the old definitions apply anymore.

      So the Army of Kentucky decided it would be a good move to go into Bagdad? You tried to win an argument by redefining the language to something other than what everyone else uses - not a very pleasant trick but increasingly common.
      People haven't really changed, it's as much an empire as the Roman Republic was with client states and outposts. An empire that resembled it more closely was the Austrian-Hungarian empire in the late 1800s, you might want to read what Mark Twain wrote about that and you'll see a few similarities with the USA today. It's not necessarily a good or bad thing, it's just a label. What the empire actually does is the important thing

  8. Re:waste of money.... by berj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think you're missing all of the collateral benefits that came from the space race. You're probably typing on one right now.

  9. Re:Our budget deficits are catastrophic, too by eclectro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >Cutting NASA with respect to the deficit is like putting a bandaid on your finger while ignoring the sucking wound in your chest.

    Actually not. A little bit of money here, a little bit of money there, an earmark there, another over there, and not before long you're swimming in red ink.

    It's unfortunate that the republicans had to piss away the equivalent of moon trip in Iraq that we now need to have this discussion. If people don't like this, they need to hold those people who continue to be loudmouths on TV legally accountable for their decisions (Cheney, Rove).

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  10. The sad thing is that by Rooked_One · · Score: 3, Insightful

    if the republicans got elected the same thing would be going on - very little funding to NASA etc... Now, I can't help but wonder if both sides are really just one side... The all have two things in common. They got elected, and they want to stay elected. That's politics 101.

  11. Re:Priorities. by Beelzebud · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's only a pyramid scheme if America ceases to exist... Also, great outlook there. Let's not keep people alive too long, because that could cost some money!....

  12. Re:Our budget deficits are catastrophic, too by Beelzebud · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It got modded troll, but it's 100% true. The Iraq war wasn't a necessary war, at all. It has wasted a trillion dollars, and we have nothing to show for it but a bunch of fresh graves. The money we wasted in Iraq is the elephant in the room no one wants to talk about. 9 billion dollars in Iraq is totally unaccounted for, and the Republican deficit hawks didn't seem to care when it happened and they don't seem to care now. We wasted enough money in Iraq to pay for universal health care, AND a trip to the moon.

  13. Re:waste of money.... by Imsdal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You think he's typing on Velcro? Myself, I am typing on a keyboard. They were around before the space race.

    The idea that space exploration is giving us (humanity as a whole) good value for money is, frankly, ridiculous. The billions and billions of dollars spent has of course brought some benefits and some cool inventions. But spending that same money on other kinds of research would with a very high probability have yielded more benefits. But I do agree that it would have yielded less fame to the old whiners from TFA.

  14. Re:Buzz Aldrin has a different view by MichaelSmith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Aldrin is arguing against a repeat of "Flags and Footprints" on the moon. He is right. The best option you and I have of going into space is a self sustaining space transport industry.

  15. Dishonest politician breaks a campaign promise. by reporter · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Check out the analysis at the "Houston Chronicle". The analysis states, "President Obama 'dramatically broke' a campaign pledge when he announced plans to cancel NASA's $108 billion Bush-era Constellation program to return astronauts to the moon by 2020.

    That's the conclusion of an independent fact-checking organization known as PolitiFact.

    The organization's nonpartisan assessment is expected to be widely quoted by supporters of NASA who are trying to reverse Obama's decision on Capitol Hill. "

    Like many politicians before him, Barack Hussein Obama broke a campaign promise. He outright lied in order to get the votes independent voters.

    Many news wires are now reporting that Obama broke his presidential-campaign promise to fund Constellation. In response, his supporters (of whom many are African-American) -- e. g., Beelzebud -- are pumping messages into the blogs and online forums to defend Obama.

  16. Re:manned space travel has been catastrophic by Garrett+Fox · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's based on the assumption that the whole point is to do science, while we stay at home and watch it on TV.

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