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UK ID Cards Could Be Upgraded To Super ID Cards

An anonymous reader writes "Gadget lovers are used to punishing upgrade cycles but now it seems that the British ID card could be replaced with a 'super' ID card just a couple of years after the first one was released. The new card could be used to buy goods or services online, or to prove identity over the web. It's a bit of a kick in the teeth for the people who have already paid £30 for a 1st gen card that can't do any of these things."

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  1. It's not a kick in the teeth for anyone. by onion2k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No one thinks 'well, we've sold a bunch of these, we'd better stop innovating now in case we annoy the people who bought Version 1'. Buying something, then a few years later a better version coming along is not a "kick in the teeth". It's progress.

    If the best argument you can come up with against "super ID cards" is that they're not fair on people with ordinary ID cards then you need to go back to Civil Liberties School.

  2. Not really by Spad · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a bit of a kick in the teeth for the people who have already paid £30 for a 1st gen card that can't do any of these things.

    Yes, all 6 of them.

    1. Re:Not really by newcastlejon · · Score: 5, Funny

      And you can bet your last penny that they claimed the cost back on MPs' expenses.

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  3. It's always been my dream ... by Aceticon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's always been my dream to be profiled by law enforcement on the basis of my shopping.

    Who knows, maybe my toilet paper buying habits exactly match those of a known terrorist and the men in black will single me out for "special attention". After all, who doesn't want to be incarcerated for 28 days without actually being accused of anything because of buying "the supermarket's brand in packs of 4 in average once every two months" just like the terrorists.

    The good news is that using a Government provided electronic ID card for shopping will bring me closer to my dream.

    1. Re:It's always been my dream ... by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your tongue-in-cheek request for attention hits the nail right on the head: Hello, Big Brother, can you please keep track of everything I ever buy and everywhere I ever go for me? Who knows, maybe they'll offer a CD at the end of the year with a summary of your purchases and travels for only £14.99.

      A more important question though, is how on earth do you last two months with only a 4 pack of toilet paper?

  4. Yes by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One single card that absolutely verifies who you are AND accesses all your finances. What a wonderful idea! What could possibly go wrong?

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  5. I'm sorry citizen... by damburger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You cannot post on this web forum without first verifying your identity with the UK government. From the article:

    The proposals currently under consideration could potentially see ID cards used to perform new tasks - such as authorising online transactions using chip and PIN and verifying the holder's identity over the internet - which are not possible with existing British ID cards today.

    THIS is how they plan to implement the draconian measures in the DEB. They want all Internet activity linked to an ID card system that they control (and whose data they can sell). Am I being paranoid? My wife would say so. But if currently legislation pans out - and the incoming government have made no indications they wish to change direction - then the government will have on one hand an unworkable set of Internet regulations and another hand a technological solution that could potentially make it work. They will also have very rich men offering financial incentives to link the two.

    The fact this will kill Internet freedom in this country stone dead is completely irrelevant to them. As with so many other aspects of life, career politicians simply do not care because they are outside their very narrow experiences, which have been aimed at public office for basically their entire life.

    These people select themselves for leadership at private school (if Tory) or at university (if Labour or Lib Dem) - and never venture out of that world to experience the life, work, and leisure of ordinary human beings.

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    1. Re:I'm sorry citizen... by Tim+C · · Score: 4, Informative

      These people select themselves for leadership at private school (if Tory) or at university (if Labour or Lib Dem)

      What on earth makes you think the Labour and Lib Dem MPs all went to state schools? Have you forgotten the minor scandal a few years ago over certain high-profile Labour MPs sending their kids to private school?

  6. One card... by afc_wimbledon · · Score: 4, Funny

    One card to rule them all, one card to find them, One card to bring them all and in the darkness bind them (With apologies to you know who)

  7. Re:Most people are not bothered by HungryHobo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't really care if the guys who sell me cola profile me, their motive is simple- profit.
    I do care if the people who have guns and the power to have me locked up profile me, their motives are complex and involved power, politics and money.

  8. Re:Or not by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No. Definitely not. I don't want my complete life to stagnate when I loose the ID card, for instance. Furthermore, the idea of coupling payments to the ID card (which is basically a passport) is so horrible I do not forgive a government to even suggest it.

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  9. Re:Or not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't it be easy if you had one card for ID, public transport, payments, building access, getting your treatment, etc?

    Wouldn't it be easy if the government and corporations could track and timestamp every action of your life with no court supervision?

  10. Re:Or not by AlecC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with any such card is that as it does more and more things, more and more people can access data used by it. The fact that it can do more things makes it a juicy target for criminals, while the larger the number of people who have access to its data the more there are to be criminals or to be suborned by criminals. This means that there is in inverse square law of security against power of such a card. Nobody is going to attack my library card: all they could do is take out books in my name, and the only people who have access to the database are a handful of librarians. But single index to my entire life gives access to my bank, my medical records, my employment records, my tax records... and is vulnerable to attack by all those with legitimate access to any of those people.

    Beware of revenge effects. Every technology has them - this ID card seems to me to have bigger ones than most.

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  11. Re:Or not by Fuzzypig · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah it does doesn't it? However this is Gordon Brown's bunch of incompetent fuck-wits, at least until the next election when they will be replaced by David Cameron's bunch of incompetent fuck-wits! UK Government IT is all based on back-handers and directors taking cuts for projects that are almost always delayed and almost always nothing like what they were supposed to achieve. I wouldn't trust the Gov's IT mob to run a 1 table with 1 row Access database, they'd fuck it up or leave it on a USB on a train somewhere!

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