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Perelman Urged To Accept $1m Prize

krou writes "The Warm Home charity in St. Petersburg, Grigory Perelman's home-town, has urged the math genius and recluse to accept the $1m Millennium Prize for solving the Poincaré conjecture, and donate it to charities. Perelman has refused to accept the award, telling one reporter through the closed door of his flat, 'I have all I want,' and another who managed to call him on his mobile, 'You are disturbing me. I am picking mushrooms.'"

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  1. This is hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Patron saint of basement dwellers everywhere.

    1. Re:This is hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually I read a interview with him at some point (I think in the New Yorker), and he really doesn't want the limelight.

      Since his discovery, he's had offers from major universities to work, and he's turned them all down.

      He really didn't do this for the glory. He is one of those few, rare individuals who achieved great things solely because they were there. Humble. Strange. Special in some way.

      I honestly admire this man. He has solved one of the most important problems of our time (and others' time) and his only wish is that other people take it further, purely for the sake of knowledge and understanding. Not for awards. Not for riches. Not for fame. Simply for knowledge.

      We may not understand him. Quite likely he doesn't understand us.

      He may not accept our riches, but he has given us something far far greater than mere money. Leave him be.

    2. Re:This is hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, just remember that genius and madness are only separated by a thin line.

      Some people aren't as fixated on money or socializing and gossip as journalists and Trolls are. Not wanting to be part of the In-Crowd does NOT make a person insane, or on the verge of insanity. Some people, like me, program for a hobby. Some people even write poetry without the intent of having it published. It makes us weird compared to the Trolls and socialites out there. But it doesn't make us crazy.

    3. Re:This is hilarious by nazsco · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > Yeah, just remember that genius and madness are only separated by a thin line.

      In this case it isnt so.

      He is genius. he knows more math then you do. and he knows more about a good life then you do.

      because you dont understand him, considers him a madman on both accounts probably. Only so in the math part someone already told you to belive that he is a genius. not that you would understand it too. as you do not understand his views on a good life.

    4. Re:This is hilarious by mjwx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, just remember that genius and madness are only separated by a thin line.

      The poor bloke just wants to do math and pick mushrooms. There's nothing wrong with him just because he doesn't fit into the "nuclear" society mould.

      --
      Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
    5. Re:This is hilarious by palegray.net · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is not a good life by any measure.

      Precisely who the hell are you to make that call? You're certainly not him.

    6. Re:This is hilarious by rdelcueto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What exactly you mean by "This is not a good life by any measure", and just how the hell are you "measuring" his life? The guy says he has everything he wants. The fact that you don't understand or want his way of life (or what you've read he's life is), doesn't mean there's something wrong with it. People need to mind their own shit, and help by keeping their mouth shut and not doing this void judgments on others.

    7. Re:This is hilarious by DamnStupidElf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sanity is defined as having "soundness of mind and judgment." Being able to prove the Poincaré conjecture implies at least sound judgment in a logical sense in order to understand the proof, and clearly enough soundness of mind to compose a readable paper describing the proof. Perhaps you are confusing arbitrary personal lifestyle choices and a refusal to adhere to common social norms with some form of insanity. At worst, you might call it "asocial" or "antisocial", but that is hardly insane.

  2. I have an idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe leave the guy alone like he wants?

    1. Re:I have an idea... by nschubach · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sounds like a plan to me. I'd be pissed off if people kept bugging me as well. Just take the money he doesn't want and give it to a math oriented scholarship fund or something.

      --
      Every time I start to have faith in humanity, I ruin it by driving to work between 7 and 8 am.
    2. Re:I have an idea... by jcr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Best idea I've heard yet. The right to be left alone is one of the most important ones we have.

      -jcr

      --
      The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
  3. This guy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is a total badass, he sets the standard for life.

  4. Just leave him alone.. by gyepi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He probably wants nothing more than being left alone. It's ironic that he doesn't seem to grasp that his eccentric behavior makes that even more difficult to achieve.

    --
    Attitudes make the difference between Space and Time: we want to MAX our temporal, and MIN our spatial extension.
  5. Ah... an Oscar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This latest snub follows his refusal in 2006 to collect the maths equivalent of an Oscar, the Fields Medal.

    Its sad that the Fields medal is being compared to the Oscars - don't get me wrong, the Oscars are high honors in their fields - but comparing the lifetime of dedication scientists and mathematicians put into their work to the winner of 'Best miniskirt on hot actress in a running scene' doesn't seem right.

  6. self defeating by nedlohs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Refusing a $1 million prize will, I suspect, generate more, of the attention he doesn't want.

    The journalists camped outside his home and calling his cell phone don't give a crap about some obscure piece of mathematics - they care about the weirdo who is turning down a fortune.

  7. Oblig. Good Will Hunting quote by dfarcanjo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Will: Oh, come on! What? Why is it always this? I mean, I fuckin' owe it to myself to do this or that. What if I don't want to?
    Chuckie: No. No, no no no. Fuck you, you don't owe it to yourself man, you owe it to me. Cuz tomorrow I'm gonna wake up and I'll be 50, and I'll still be doin' this shit. And that's all right. That's fine. I mean, you're sittin' on a winnin' lottery ticket. And you're too much of a pussy to cash it in, and that's bullshit. 'Cause I'd do fuckin' anything to have what you got. So would any of these fuckin' guys. It'd be an insult to us if you're still here in 20 years. Hangin' around here is a fuckin' waste of your time.

    <b> mine.

  8. An artform. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think Perelman is not so much a weirdo, but an aesthetic artist of sorts--he's been hurt by the fact that humans have tried to monetize something he considers to be beautiful...as if you could place a price on Shakespeare or a price-tag on Emily Dickinsons' poems.

  9. Re:Tools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Seriously man, take the million."

    I suspect that in Russia, as in other places, large amounts of cash, even if given away, attracts the attention of all sorts of unwelcome characters. The government with taxes; receiving the reward leads to paperwork which if not everything is in order can lead to huge repercussions, like jail time. Criminals who will only hear you received a lump sum, not that you gave it away. Reporters who are only bothering you now but will instead be critical of how you spent the money or attack your decison making (why that charity?). Charities for not being on the receiving end of your generosity. Pesky social people wanting to get a piece, such as women or men (depending on how you spin, and maybe the 'or' should be an 'and') showing up, despite you being in a happy relationship already, maybe even disrupting that.

    Right now he's an interesting story. If he accepts the million, he's an interesting story and rich, and the additional story of what he does with the million becomes a reality.

    Hell, when the economy went to shit here in the US, just look at the nasty backlash online, even here on /.; people were attacking ALL upper class simply because they were rich, not because they had done wrong. It was guilt by association.

    Maybe this recluse has his reasons and understands the world far better than you know.

  10. Re:Mother and Sister? by Nialin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is integrity such a rare thing these days, that everybody freaks the fuck out when they see it, call the person exhibiting it "Strange", and "Weird

    Of course! Things are only "strange" or "weird" because they are outside the norm. If integrity were the norm, the situation would be quite different. Wouldn't you agree?

  11. it's more about us, less about him by blueworm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This bit is more about our personal dissatisfaction with our lives, as the readers, having to do things we don't like for money. It's more about a dissatisfaction with the economic system and less about this mathematician, or ex-mathematician. This dissatisfaction leads us to react to any declination of money with shock. The real key to freedom is living with very little and very humbly such that we "work" less and live more enjoyably, where "work" is here defined as any activity done more for money and less for personal enjoyment.

    Even Richard M. Stallman himself has suggested this:

    "I live like a student, basically. And I like that, because it means that money is not telling me what to do."
    -- Richard M. Stallman
    http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/fsfs/rms-essays.pdf
    Pg. 164

  12. you are a scared little one, aren't you? by roman_mir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does Perelman not taking the money scare you?

    Does he offend you?

    Does he entice a violent reaction in you?

    Do you hate it, when someone sticks out of the crowd not out of a desire to be more 'cool looking' but simply because he does not need the crowd?

    Take the money and give it to charity, you self-important Shit

    - why don't you go and find him and beat him into submission to your own standards, that will hopefully satisfy your primordial craving to make sure nobody is different and whoever is different they are destroyed, so that the coherency of the group is in balance yet again?

  13. I think you misunderstand him by jonaskoelker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He solved the conjecture, his name will be in math books for the rest of eternity, and that is prize enough for him.

    I think you're either misunderstanding him, or replacing his wants by your own.

    I think it's more like this: he solved the conjecture, and that is prize enough for him.