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Energy Star Program Certifies 15 Out of 20 Bogus Products

longacre writes "A Gasoline-Powered Alarm Clock was among 15 bogus products granted the coveted Energy Star seal of approval by the US Environmental Protection Agency during a secret evaluation conducted by the Government Accountability Office. In addition, four fictional manufacturers run by fake people and marketed with crummy websites — Cool Rapport (HVAC equipment), Futurizon Solar Innovations (lighting), Spartan Digital Electronics, and Tropical Thunder Appliances — were granted Energy Star partnerships. The root of the problem: Manufacturers need only submit photos and not actual examples of their products, and they submit their own efficiency ratings, which are not independently verified by the EPA."

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  1. So, its a marketing label only by bfmorgan · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have long thought that some of the devices with the energy star label were not that energy saving. Now I know.

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    1. Re:So, its a marketing label only by Ant+P. · · Score: 2, Informative

      IIRC there was a front page story a long time ago about this; it was about some HDTVs that got this label which used obscene amounts of power even when they were turned "off".

    2. Re:So, its a marketing label only by petermgreen · · Score: 3, Informative

      That one was more a methodology issue than a fraud issue. Energy star only set standards for when the TV was in regular standby and when it was running, not for when it was "in standby but trying to update the EPG and so the tuner is on". Furthermore it turned out that some TVs could spend a LOT of time in this state.

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  2. Re:Never, ever, ever, ever trust the government by moosesocks · · Score: 5, Informative

    As somebody who works for the government, I take your comment as a personal insult.

    If anything, the efficiency of the government is greater than private industry, thanks to the intense level of scrutiny we're put through. (If anything, the extensive accountability measures that we have to undergo are the one thing that hinders our efficiency)

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  3. Re:Like patents by Hadlock · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was only two months ago the THX certification lost all meaning due to lack of testing.

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  4. Regulatory capture refinement by Gorimek · · Score: 2, Informative

    One of the main mechanisms in "Regulatory capture" is that in order to have competent regulators, they must be hired from the same skill pool as the people working in the industry.

    So the main career path for those working at the watchdog agency is to work for one of the companies they're overseeing, or less commonly, the other direction. This will at least breed an atmosphere of "being on the same team", and also gives strong incentives to outright corruption.

    1. Re:Regulatory capture refinement by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sometimes both directions. It isn't called the "revolving door" for nothing...

  5. Re:Like patents by sumdumass · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, I can't think of a single seal of approval, or certification, that means anything.

    I'll expand your mind then. Try the UL and the NFPA seals and listings.

    Of course if something is not up to spec (lets say a manufacturer certified with one material and used another in production), then most people have a right to sue the manufacturers for not following the standards they were certified under as well as it being known that the problem wasn't the certification but the production afterward.

  6. Re:Like patents by Idarubicin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, I can't think of a single seal of approval, or certification, that means anything.

    Underwriters Laboratories.

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  7. wow! Nicely done! by CFD339 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm a firefighter and I've seen these guys work. They sent someone out to test our 75 foot ladder -- and the guy spent two days with magnets, iron dust, and a damn magnifying glass going over every single inch of the metal -- he found half a dozen micro stress cracks, marked them, and we were able to have them welded and re-checked.

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  8. Re:Never, ever, ever, ever trust the government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wow as a Canadian please let me politely state - taxes on income do not support only health care. Oh and yes I'm in one of the higher paying tax brackets.

    Just in case you missed the the point. Your argument as it refers to the Canadian tax system and it's support rate for health care is a feces loaded sandwich that your are willingly chomping down on without much research or independent thought.

  9. Re:Never, ever, ever, ever trust the government by nacturation · · Score: 3, Informative

    Canadians are taxed on their income for healthcare at a tune of anywhere from 40% to 60%, yet they still have waiting lists - even for necessary surgery.

    Yes, some Canadians might pay between 40% and 60% of their income as taxes. However, unless you think that 100% of all tax revenue funds healthcare, your numbers are completely out to lunch. Either I've been trolled, or you need to learn a few more things.

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  10. Re:Never, ever, ever, ever trust the government by Uberbah · · Score: 2, Informative

    The reason your telecommunications cost so much? You live in NYC. The reason for the shittiest service ever? You Live in NYC!

    Right, right. Except when we complain how shitty our telecommunications service is in the United States compared to other nations, the excuse given is that the U.S. is far more rural than Asian or European countries with far faster services. Except if you happen to live in a densely populated urban area in the U.S., then you have shitty, overpriced services because you live in a highly populated area.

    Sure.

  11. Re:Never, ever, ever, ever trust the government by Tom · · Score: 2, Informative

    Because you picked out one part of my argument and found that in reality what should happen, doesn't (and hey wait, it was discovered by the government) does a) not invalidate the entire argument and b) does not show that government doesn't work. At least they're able to find the flaws in their own system. I fail to see how corporations are any better or worse in this respect.

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