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Facebook's Plan To Automatically Share Your Data
Giosuele sends in this excerpt from TechCrunch:
"In anticipation of a slew of new features that will be launching at f8, today Facebook announced that it was once again making changes to its privacy policy. One of the biggest changes that Facebook is making involves applications and third-party websites. We've been hearing whispers from multiple sources about these changes, and the announcement all but confirms what Facebook is planning to do. In short, it sounds like Facebook is going to be automatically opting users into a reduced form of Facebook Connect on certain third party sites — a bold change that may well unnerve users, at least at first."
Letting all the users of slashdot access my friends ... I see trouble in future :P
I don't understand what is wrong with everyone on the internet. You cry about privacy but willingly give out your real-life information to these websites. Each and every one of these social networking websites exists for one purpose and that's to sell your information, your demographics to advertisers and generate revenue.
None of these sites are altruistic establishments who seek to serve the public good guarding one's privacy. At the end of the day you're engaging in opt-in Big Brother and it's far more disturbing than the advanced police state that exists in the UK and is growing in the United States of America.
Doesn't matter if you're using a throwaway freemail account because even then it's ridiculously easy to find one's real-life information. Just stop going there, delete your information and send their company a strongly-worded letter demanding they remove your information.
If you reserve the right to burden Facebook with the truth about yourself and your most sensitive information, then they reserve the right to relieve themselves of that burden by revealing it to whomever they see fit.
The e-reward for e-trust.
Orwell: "In a Time of Universal Deceit, telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act"
One thing faster than the speed of light is the frequency with which Facebook changes its privacy policy to suck in the unwary. (Units deliberately left undefined.)
Sexy Girl: FB Update - Just got out of the shower... LOCATION: 123 Main St. Creepy Man: FB Update - Just zipped up pants. 123 Main St. Broadview Security: Targeted Ad - Hey! Sexy Girl, Now is the time to think about home security!
And this comes as a surprise to anyone? The real danger is the proliferation of these services into everyday life. We already have examples of employers that demands access to prospective worker's Facebook accounts in real life. How long before you are viewed as being 'suspicious' for not having an account and sharing all your intimate details with the rest of the world? Everyone is doing it, why not you? Do you have anything to hide? I am also sure that Facebook themselves will in no way use the third-party data in order to track their users visits on other sites, would they?
Are third party sites any more capable of doing anything complex with this information than Facebook? The extent to which I noticed facebook profiled me is the ads on the side would say "free gifts if you're male, 67 years old and live in Sausageville". Let's face it (no pun intended), Facebook probably gives prospective advertisers and third-party sites looking to use profile information some complex sounding presentation about the way that break down demographics to the point that an individual can be uniquely identified 24 seconds before they even think about logging into Facebook. But really, 99% of ads are based on sex, age and where they live, I'm sure a lot more companies than Facebook know this information, I think we're somewhat over-estimating technology companies' ability to mine data. OK, once I told a FB friend to not be such a baby and they got some ads about gifts for new parents. Maybe we should have a social experiment where we try to affect the ads by what we post. "Man, I wish I could get a cheap rate mobile, easy date in my area , cartoonize myself" should be a good starting point...
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Hopefully they won't partner with adult sites...
Richard is watching Porn Movie of the Day on SexSexSex.com, the dirty dirty bastard.
Summation 2
Twitter/Facebook are flooded with advertisers so if you can't beat em join em. Use it as a press release page only.
They know my full name and the name of my wife; my birthday and home town and a google email address. That's it. What's the big deal about that? It's not like they have access to any of my bank details, credit cards, NI number, passport number, or anything that would really cause me grief if it got into the wrong hands.
Stop making a mountain out of a mole hill. Sheesh !
about the cranky losers who constantly trumpet the fact they don't have a television, whenever the subject comes up
however, i am now that cranky loser, for facebook: every time facebook comes up as an issue, i will trumpet the fact i don't have an account, and never will, and feel smugly superior for that fact
it's nothing but a bonfire of vanities. you're just not that interesting, none of us are, sorry
free your time and free yourself from endless navel gazing and obviously, get some privacy: lose facerbook, permanently. declare your freedom from shallowness and corporate exploitation
if you have real friends, they won't need this stupid contrivance to maintain their friendship with you. the rest are just acquaintances, not really friends, and you work far too hard to maintain some ridiculous fake mask for their sake. they don't really matter to the quality of your life, unless you're shallow, in which case you don't have that much quality of life to begin with
lose facebook. you're life will improve
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Whoosh.
"I value my privacy. I've been very consistent about that. I've said it on my TV show, my Twitter feed, my Facebook page, my live web Colonoscopy cam."
- Stephen Colbert
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/267560/march-17-2010/united-states-census-2010
The UK and EU data protection laws do not apply to US companies. A few UK companies use this to work around them by requiring you to give explicit permission for them to share your data with a single US company, which is then free to share your data with everyone.
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When Facebook adds a new feature that shares my information in a new way:
(a) Share my information automatically, I can stop sharing later
(b) Do not automatically share, I can begin sharing later.
That way those who care can keep their data private or at least not be surprised by the new way their data is being shared, and those who find that they enjoy sharing their data in new ways can always be on the cutting edge.
Once you set your default, you can go back at your leisure and change the setting to share or to not share. Usually you will not have to do anything because the default sets the sharing the way you like it.
Ob Disclaimer: I don't use Facebook or any of those other new-fangled things.
Their policy means nothing, since they can always change it on a whim. The only way to have control over your information and privacy is to control it yourself.
Anyone feel like making a distributed peer to peer facebook clone where each user runs (or at least has the ability to run) their own server?
See that "Preview" button?
Why is it every time Facebook gets a new idea, everyone must scramble to update their settings - why not just assume people want to keep their information private?
Because the basic purpose of facebook is to share information. An assumption that you desire privacy is counter to the idea of using facebook.
Also its far more profitable to sell your information upfront before giving you the "opt out" choice than to only sell the information of the few people who choose to "opt in".
I know exactly what you mean! I feel the same way about the telephone!
Sure you can use it to keep up with friends and family who live far away, but that's what letters are for. If you have real friends, they wont need this contrivance to maintain their friendship with you. And think about all the things you'll be able to talk about as if they were new if they come to visit. Ah the joys of limited connectivity!
And I mean, talk about annoying! I know that as soon as I install one in my house, it's gonna start ringing, interrupting work, interrupting dinner, interrupting sleep. And nine times out of ten it's going to be someone I don't know trying to sell me something I don't need. And what do you want to bet that the phone company isn't listening in?
That's why I say,
lose the telephone, you're (sic) life will improve
It breaks my pluginses, my precious!
Why is it every time Facebook gets a new idea, everyone must scramble to update their settings
Because it's far easier for the site to make money that way, and they really don't care about your privacy (although it is wise for them to maintain the facade of caring).
Because most people are too stupid and / or lazy to be bothered to mess with the privacy controls. Facebook knows this, and exploits it (like many other sites) to build their pool of demographic / advertising data. That's why the controls are generally buried several menus deep and hard to find. It's no different than being subscribed to an online vendor's email newsletter by default unless you *uncheck* that box during checkout. Every time Facebook adds a new feature, it gives them another chance to add to the pool and increase their ad revenue. And you can't blame them really, being that the service is free for its users and selling ads is their primary revenue source.
What fucking pisses me off is I do that and yet I have one _ex_ friend who is dumb enough to go posting all over Facebook wherever that stuff comes up with "corrections". Fucking idiot. No matter how often I told her there was a reason I'd put incorrect information in there she kept doing it. Deleted that moron from the friends list and also from the phonebook, and my life.
You may think you're doing a good job of being private, but I bet everybody on here has at least one friend who has loaded up their Google address book with all of the private details you were hoping to keep from Google. It's annoying enough that these people consistently email out with a hundred names and addresses in the To: field, so people who I'd successfully avoided giving my details to suddenly have them.
You can't win. People are dumb fuckers who care only about shiny things and making their own lives "better". Putting everything online with no regard for privacy or security somehow makes their lives "better", particularly if it's a nice shiny website.
I drink to make other people interesting!
That's interesting.
Your address is in CA and your phone number is from Tennessee?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_code_901
Yahoo maps says there is no Maple Ave in San Diego.
So you are demonstrating the point of how easy it is to frame someone?
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Correction. Selling their user's data to anyone who's willing to pay (spammers anyone?) is their primary revenue source. Any advertisement slots they sell on the site itself is just a secondary revenue stream, and considering the amount of people using ad-blocking of some sort, negligible.
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